Sometimes it’s hard trying to figure out the message hidden someplace in your word-salad rants. The point Martens brought is extremely valid: [democracy] relies on an educated population, economic stability and established institutions, all of which take time.And you commented that Democracy has to be fought and earned, representatives have to be responsible and trusted, etc. Ok, fine, good ’nuff..But then I have no idea what you mean by And that is why Obama supports democracy instead of what we have . Yes, yes, we all know you hate liberals, and democrats, and President Obama. Now what does that have to do with the situation in Syria?