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  1. Ottodesu

    Ottodesu said, over 3 years ago

    They’ve been taking their inspiration from the USA?
    I think the USA is the only Western power that is not a secular democracy.

  2. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    Either it is secular or it is Islamic, guess what it is not secular.

  3. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    @Ottodesu

    Are you for real!

  4. Fourcrows

    Fourcrows said, over 3 years ago

    @jack75287

    It’s way more complicated than that. Attaturk wanted Turkey to be a shining jewel of the Middle East by showing the world that Muslims could live under a secular democracy, therefore competing with the West as a social and economic equal. Because of this, men and women were discouraged from wearing traditional Muslim clothing, particularly in metropolitan centers. President Abdullah Gul, however, leans more towards traditional Islamic values, and his wife first made headlines by wearing a Hijab, something nobody in the government or of public notoriety had done in nearly a century. Now the problem is that Turkey wants to join the European Union, because they feel they are an equal to the West, but many see Gul and his wife as being too conservative religiously. He has the backing of many people in the outlying villages, but to people in Istanbul he is a threat, because the last thing they want is Islamic rule.
    Of course, Gul is not their only obstacle to EU inclusion. Turkey has not made many friends over the years, and some countries are still demanding public apologies for some of Turkey’s actions over the past century or so.

  5. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago

    @Ottodesu

    Ha!



    @ jack And is the USA Christian or secular?
    Dude, seriously, learn how to use some grammar; your sentences need several parses before they’re understood

  6. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    @omQ R

    omQ R said:
    Dude, seriously, learn how to use some grammar; your sentences need several parses before they’re understood.

    You had to read “Either it is secular or it is Islamic, guess what it is not secular”, to understand that sentence. Last Parses is defined as to: To break (a sentence) down into its component parts of speech with an explanation of the form, function, and syntactical relationship of each part.

    The word you are looking for is reads or tries. Oh and omQ R, your whining again.

  7. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    @Fourcrows

    You’re right, no doubt, but with the current president so Islamic and the Generals that use to keep Islamists from taking over are all in jail what direction will Turkey take.

  8. OnTarget

    OnTarget said, over 3 years ago

    @omQ R

    Schooled.

  9. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    Yes we do, more then any first world country, still we are talking about third world countries. How many Christian Terrorist attacks in the last ten years compared to Islamic. Not some example but how many, a comparison that can be measured. Or go back twenty or even thirty, anything after 1900. I am not being sarcastic, we try to help countries including Muslim countries, Kuwait, the whole Croatia–Serbia issue in the 90s, Iraq. In the end we are the ones people come to for help and yes I am proud of this country no matter what a lot of people think.

    Like today, the Supreme Court turned over a large part of the voters rights act. The one causing federal monitoring of 9 southern states whenever they changed voter laws.

    The Supreme Court was right to strike it down as they said in the statement, “the country has changed”. You cannot go on punishing people for something nearly 1/2 century ago.

  10. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago

    sneered, “Don’t be a jerk
    I beg your pardon?


    “And you gave nothing in return like what he was talking about.”


    I replied: “@ jack And is the USA Christian or secular?”
    I understood Otto’s satire; Jack clearly did not. I replied in kind and wished to know his thoughts about the state of religion in the USA. Yet you claim I did not address his comment?
    As an aside, I asked Jack if he could use grammar effectively as his comment is not immediately understood.
    Most of his sentences need to be reread several times to understand the sentences’ components.[@Jack: that’s parsing] That means most people will not read his stuff and simply skip over it.
    His retort to my advice clearly shows he has no idea how his ideas are not being understood. You don’t want him to communicate his ideas effectively? Why do you dislike him so much? I also think you’re purposely introducing grammar ommisions in your comments in this thread. Is that your attempt to communicate with Jack, mano a mano?


    “Grammar police are such SOBs.”
    Indeed they are, as are foul-mouthed posters : “jerk”; “SOB”.


    Facts, dude, I knock your posts in this section for a six when they lack facts; and I don’t normally go for the ad hominem attack, as you just did.
    What word do you have for posters who reply with gratuitous insults?

  11. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    @omQ R

    The statement I made was one sentence long, if you can’t understand it, it is your problem. As for grammar, you want me to parse you’re last paragraph.

    “I think you smart because I often whack your comments for a six in this section. I will keep whacking your comments”.

    More important then the grammar, which you twice shown you can use a little improvement here today, is your attitude. You got me and Night on the same side. That’s new and last;
    Remember what I said about whining?

  12. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago

    @jack75287

    Oh dear, you replied to the comment I had made before I edited it. If only you had refreshed first.
    Hmm, well, no matter.


    My comment about your grammar was an aside; hence the smaller font. You and Night-Gaunt have decided to blow it up.
    Cool.
    I shall therefore kick up pedantry a notch since you hint my grammar sucks but don’t mention where. I can stand to be corrected. My mother-tongue isn’t English and I’m always ready to learn more. Are you?


    “The statement I made was one sentence long, if you can’t understand it, it is your problem.”
    No, it’s your problem. If you want to effectively exchange ideas on a public forum, then write clearly. I already skip over your comments in the general forum because I’ve found that I consistently have to read your comments a few times to make sense of them. I’ve always liked the “Views” section despite Gocomics downgrading its importance to a mere once-a-week update. Here I actually take time to read your comments.


    Take your sentence: "As for grammar, you want me to parse you’re last paragraph.
    Did you mean? : “As for grammar, [do] you want me to parse your last paragraph[?]


    You said: ”More important then the grammar,"
    Did you mean? : “More important than the grammar,”
    You said: “”which you twice shown you can use a little improvement here today,"
    Did you mean: “which you [have] twice shown you can[could?] use a little improvement [on?] here today,”
    Please show me where! Remember, I live and learn.


    I sense from the words you’ve quoted that you didn’t understand what I wrote before. Allow me to help you:
    I had said: “I think you smart because I often whack your comments for a six in this section. I will keep whacking your comments”
    “smart”: (of a wound or part of the body) Cause a sharp, stinging pain: “the wound was smarting”.
    “hit for a six”: True, that’s a cricketing term, I don’t think many Americans will be aware of it. In baseball parlance, similar to hitting a ball for a home-run.
    If you think I’ve made grammatical errors, I can stand to be corrected. Please point them out to me. I’m terrible with split infinitives and starting sentences with conjunctions.


    You said: “That’s new and last”
    I understood " That’s new", but what did you mean by “and last” ?
    Did you mean? : “That’s new and a first.” ? Or, “That’s the first and probably the last time” ?


    The first few errors, the “you’re/your”, the “then/than” typo etc are minor and insignificant. Spelling errors or typos don’t make your posts unintelligible, but when you don’t use punctuation, that’s when it starts getting tricky.



    Back to the thread:


    You said :“Yes we do, more then any first world country, still we are talking about third world countries.”


    I don’t understand your differentiation. Why can you not compare “first world” countries with “third world” countries in this regard?

  13. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago

    "I wanted you to stop with correcting, it is bad manners and etiquette. “


    I haven’t corrected before but thanks for the opportunity. An example of Bad manners is using insults, such as you have. If you like, I will point this out to you every time you use it on this forum.


    ”So you see you went in the reverse direction and really became an obnoxious lout about. [it]“
    About…? …people who cannot write and express themselves properly in their mother-tongue and sometimes mention how immigrants should learn English?
    My up-tick in pedantry & churlishness was encouraged by your insults and Jack’s refusal to acknowledge it and to suggest my grammar was awful without indicating what was awful about it.
    And there you go again: ”obnoxious lout"Did you see that? I often start a sentence with a conjunction! Just terrible. :-|


    “Kindly remove it and I will remove mine. Deal?”
    Are you kidding? My grammar aside was in small font. Your & Jack’s replies enlarged it. It now dominates the thread. Jack’s poor grasp of his mother-tongue is now very much high-lighted and your lack of comprehension, too.
    Deal with it.



    You said: “Words are not foul, they describe foulness.”


    I’ll remember this when you next attack a gun-nut who claims guns don’t kill people. Not a disimilar argument.
    Being called a SOB describes foulness? Indeed. I’ll let my mother know how foul you think she is.


    You should have quoted me as follows:
    @ jack And is the USA Christian or secular?
    Dude, seriously, learn how to use some grammar; your sentences need several parses before they’re understood.


    You & jack emphasised it, not me. You both ignored my question: “And is the USA Christian or secular?” and chose to go on about grammar. You went as far as to titter: “And you gave nothing in return like what he was talking about.”


    I also suggest you reply to jack’s post with your detailed description about terrorists. I don’t want your post associated with me.
    I’ve noticed your occasional lapse in comprehension like missing my question above and pointing out the large font Michaelwme has just used in another thread. Dude, when will you recognise his satire? Are you that dense? Oops. That was ad hominim. Oh, no, that’s ok, “words describe foulness”. Whew, got out of that one. Ah yes, say hi to your mom for me.(I hope my manners are improving to your standards)

  14. Ottodesu

    Ottodesu said, over 3 years ago

    OK, it’s all become a little stale and turgid, but I will clarify my earlier statement.

    Yes, I made a satirical comment, but not an inaccurate one.

    The non-Christian religions look at the USA as being very religious focused, despite your constitutional separation of religion from Government. Actually, even the World’s Christians think that.

    Ultimately, this was horrendously affirmed when GWB (a firmly self-declared Christian) announced his “Crusade against Terrorism”.

    Every Moslem on the planet knew that meant a declaration of religious war against them, even those who were USA aligned.

    That’s what it meant last time.

    Middle Eastern religious fundamentalism was already happening, but GWB exquisitely radicalised the process in the most effective manner possible.

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