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So wtfall: I’ll go ahead and count you among the many Leftists who still wish to see the Arabs finish what Hitler started…
You phony hypocrites don’t even have a dog in the fight. It isn’t YOUR neighborhood getting rockets launched into it. It isn’t YOUR kids getting blown to bits on sidewalks and inside school busses and Pizza Huts, while the people behind it win Nobel Peace Prizes (ala Yassar Arafat).
You side with the Palestinians simply because their actions are evil. Which they are. They’re hopelessly brainwashed by their public schools just like you lefties are brainwashed by YOUR public schools, into believing a ton of lies and false History that never even HAPPENED…
If it was only this easy. To bad I think Obama would just love to sell out Israel. It is not like he even understands what is going on over there. He thinks all he has to do is say “I am sorry” and everyone is going to get a long.
O’BAMBI……..might have been circumcised in Indonesia during his pre-christian period…he might be able go both ways……but we won’t ask ‘cause he won’t tell
You know HQ, the thing about “I’m Sorry” is that it really does work if one really means it, and it doesn’t work if they don’t.
One might say that it is the foundation of Christian belief.
Lots of people think that they can go through life sinning it up, but at the end, as long as they confess, God’ll forgive them and they’ll get to go to Heaven. A quick chat with Jesus and, well, after all, he died for my sins, right… Why let that go to waste?
But if the confession isn’t a sign of true contrition, I’m pretty sure that the God who created the Universe will be able not to be fooled.
“I’m sorry.” would go a long way towards finding a lasting peace in the Middle East. After all, what did Jesus mean when he said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” and do you think he was just talking to the prostitute when he said “Go forth and sin no more.”?
No, he meant also to change the hearts of the crowd by having them admit to themselves and to each other that they have been wrong in the past! That true turn of the heart is the result of a true apology.
But, truth be told, most people are about as good at apologizing as they are at truely giving THANKS!
“I am sorry”.. “One might say that it is the foundation of Christian belief.”
Excuse me but saying I have sinned in front of God is a far cry from saying “I am sorry” to a religion based on domination. One might put you in the right with the big guy, the other will just get your butt whooped.
And as for having them admit they are wrong by saying we are wrong? WHAT? when has that worked with Islamic Muslim Radicals?
You’re a hideous and disgusting little thing, aren’t you ?
I would never try anything Jesus said, RV. That’s just dumb. ; )
PS everyone knows, the only ones going to heaven aren’t Jews or Muslim, they’re Christens ! And not just any Christens, Christens of MY religion. And not just Christens of MY religion, Only the good Christens of MY religion that Jesus forgives,…. Like ME !
If we can’t get along with Democrats here, what makes you think God is to let them in Heaven. Jews, Muslims, Dogs, and Democrats, aren’t going to Heaven. Can you guess where they’re going ?
Forgive, are you Crazy ?
Oh old bull I am so so sorry.. You are obvious a great great Christian who knows all…
Dr. Brainwashed
So you think and believe? The energy that is the spark of life just turns off like a switch. Well the old argument is you have nothing to lose by thinking that there is and a whole lot to lose out if you are wrong.
Might I also say that the spark has to go somewhere and I have never seen someone switch the switch back the other way.
” It isn’t YOUR neighborhood getting rockets launched into it. It isn’t YOUR kids getting blown to bits on sidewalks and inside school busses and Pizza Huts, while the people behind it win Nobel Peace Prizes.”
True words, indeed. They apply to those who support both sides of the conflict.
Not that it matters to the discussion at hand. Whether Jesus even was or not doesn’t really matter to me. Whether there is/was a God who wrote the Ten Commandments is immaterial. T
The TC are a framework of societal laws, they are rules that people can agree are good advice for peoples living in close proximity. The “I am the Lord” stuff is central to the idea that there is an authority (in our case, that authority is Law, which is enforced by the “power derived from a mandate of the masses”) And the “Keep holy the sabbath” reminds us to take a day off from work, it’s good for the sanity.
Jesus’s story is simply an extension of the basic rules (which overthrew Mosaic Law, which had become onerus, ornery, and overly protective of the wealthy) by saying “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”
Now, of course people like HQ existed then too and they would say things like “We’ll get our azzes whooped!” to which JC tried again and again to point out how turning the other cheek and forgiving trespasses are the best way to get the humanity to come forth in our enemies.
Here we are 2,000 years later and the azz still has his jawbones (one might say there are even more of them today!). The lessons still haven’t been learned by many who expect that Jesus will reward them for theobstinancy with which they held on to their flawed belief.
Let’s put religion to the side for a moment and look at how science overlaps it with Fractals. From Wiki: A fractal is “a rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be split into parts, each of which is (at least approximately) a reduced-size copy of the whole …
Human nature is the same. We’re all BASICALLY the same. There may be some of us who are more evil than others, but the vast majority of us just don’t have it in us to that extent. The vast majority of us would rather laugh than fight. Populations are made up of “fractals” we call “individuals” and the whole is actually very similar to the “Fractal”. Treat the nations as you would like to be treated and the nations will follow.
@ HQ, I’ll restate my earlier proposal. I wont read or comment on your post’s if you’ll do the same for me.
Having my post removed, makes any conversation we might have one sided. When you republicans make yourselves look foolish, and I point it out (Tea Baggers), you get mad and remove my post.That’s Not fair. So any thing I post from here on out, that you think I’m talking about you, is merely coincidental. I have NO desire to talk to you or Scott. Although I may comment on certain subject matters that you also are commenting on. Please Dont take it as if I’m commenting on your post.
PS, You said you wont look at any links I put up. Then that makes anything I say, Hear say. There is no reason to have a conversation with you. Plus you cant understand simple concepts.
http://fairtaxfraud.com/book.asp And no taxes, or the Government cant run anything right. How many would be out of work, and all the private companies that are connected to them.
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/All_Agencies/index.shtml
Was a Christian for 45 years, and not a Sunday Christian.I know my Bible. I just got tired of ignoring obvious discrepancies and ludicrous statements.
Back on the meds after your trolling spamming senorbullwinkle? I only flagged those that were spam, like the same unrelated website over and over again. and the derogatory description that you were using that had no bases in the comic at hand. When you do those things there is nothing for me to comment on. see the problem? So “NOT admitting their faults, has worked so well for so long, why change a thing.”
Who are you talking about? The Islamic Muslims? They have their edict that goes back centuries, they want to stay there and everyone else who does not understand is an infidel and is in the wrong.
Something very suttle and wrong about this strip. 1st panel Israel is scowling, bush is smiling at him. Bush is frantic at Iran. But in the next Israel is smiling while Obama frowns at him? Then Obama looks “threating” and there has been no change in Iran?
To my knowledge Bush supported Israel and Israel liked Bush. Iran was working on Nuclear but surly they have stepped up their efforts after the apology tour of Obama. The only thing with Israel that I can work out is that they are happier with Obama is the fact they can tell him to push off we will take care of the problem our self.
RV: As you well know, there is no way I or anyone else can prove that something does NOT exist. The burden of proof is on those who says it does. But if there is no evidence for its existence, and if we can explain life as biochemical reactions, then a “soul” is superfluous, a failed hypothesis. Intellectual honesty and Occam’s razor demand we conclude it does not exist.
I will not go into details, you might know them doc, but the odds of us being here in this star system and on this planet are like hitting the lotto 100 times in a row. The universe itself could have fluctuated at the big bang one way or the other and it could not have held itself together. The beginning and ending of that is God.
But I digress you want to go into proving something does not exist, but for whom? You? I can not comprehend the Alpha and Omega of it all but if one day you can, then you can have your own god complex. Then you can claim it is all baloney, smoke and mirrors of biology. But as far as I know no human can prove that the spark of life is nothing but “reactions” We can only turn off the switch but we have never been able to turn it back on. Your “need” to reach out and justify your beliefs is just a reflection of you trying to understand something you do not. It is some say that very “need” to understand that is at the soul of man.
Well you got your Scott, Stripper, Irish eddy and Aninny, among Others with their repetitive crass racist vulgar bile. Then there’s HQ and Old Goat as of late with their tedious redundancy that never ends (well not so much old goat) One Can feign outrage over me saying that Scott was a “Tea Bagger”, and had my post removed.
Not for a moment do I believe she was offended, but that she was mad that I made Republicans look dumb and foolish and she could use “Tea Bagger” to shut me up.
Where is she when Scott uses vulgarity straight up ?
I have never flagged anyone.
If you are interested in becoming a Tea Bagger, you can get in touch with Glen Beck at www.teabagfoxnews.com
Except DrC. we all know that there is a soul. We may not know what it is and we may be wrong in our knowledge that there is one, but every sentient being has the software of a soul.
Every sentient living being will struggle to survive (occasionally one will give up its life in order to save the “greater good” of the group, and rarely one will do away with itself) and as such knows that there is a difference between being alive and being dead.
For you to insist that this “soul” does not exist therefore is a positive assertion just as if you pointed to the clear glass of a window and insisted that it wasn’t there. Everyone sees the evidence of its existence (it blocks the wind) and so it is your job to prove that the window is not there, not their’s to prove that it is.
While I will enjoy this conversation (I find religious discussions can be much less contentious than other subjects if both persons know up front that its all theory and BS) I would like to point out again that the existence of a soul, of a God, of a Jesus, of an Allah, of a Vishnu, of a Gaia or any other construct is irrelavent to my position that it is a better policy to admit one’s mistakes, treat others as one would like to be treated and expect that the others will do the same (or we’ll treat them as they treated us) than to insist that others forgive and forget towards our trespasses while we trespass again.
Why all the discord and lack of civility ? Paresh is only pointing out that nothing of substance has changed in US policy towards Southwest Asia after the election of Mr Obama ; the Israeli stockplile of nuclear weapons is ignored, while Iran is castigated concerning weapons it does not have. T’was ever so ; great powers are not even-handed in their policies, but act in accordance with what the ruling elite believes to be its best interests. Mr Nixon didn’t travel to Beijing because he and Heinz Alfred discovered Revealed Truth in Mao Zedong’s writings, but because they felt it was the best way to stick it to Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev et consortes. Similarly, the Israeli tail will continue to wag the US dog so long as the leading elite of the latter country find it in their interest to permit the charade to continue….
Comments (21) Jump to Comments Form
scottfreitas
said,
about 1 month ago
So wtfall: I’ll go ahead and count you among the many Leftists who still wish to see the Arabs finish what Hitler started…
You phony hypocrites don’t even have a dog in the fight. It isn’t YOUR neighborhood getting rockets launched into it. It isn’t YOUR kids getting blown to bits on sidewalks and inside school busses and Pizza Huts, while the people behind it win Nobel Peace Prizes (ala Yassar Arafat).
You side with the Palestinians simply because their actions are evil. Which they are. They’re hopelessly brainwashed by their public schools just like you lefties are brainwashed by YOUR public schools, into believing a ton of lies and false History that never even HAPPENED…
harleyquinn
said,
about 1 month ago
If it was only this easy. To bad I think Obama would just love to sell out Israel. It is not like he even understands what is going on over there. He thinks all he has to do is say “I am sorry” and everyone is going to get a long.
Magnaut
said,
about 1 month ago
O’BAMBI……..might have been circumcised in Indonesia during his pre-christian period…he might be able go both ways……but we won’t ask ‘cause he won’t tell
ReasonsVentriloquist said, about 1 month ago
You know HQ, the thing about “I’m Sorry” is that it really does work if one really means it, and it doesn’t work if they don’t.
One might say that it is the foundation of Christian belief.
Lots of people think that they can go through life sinning it up, but at the end, as long as they confess, God’ll forgive them and they’ll get to go to Heaven. A quick chat with Jesus and, well, after all, he died for my sins, right… Why let that go to waste?
But if the confession isn’t a sign of true contrition, I’m pretty sure that the God who created the Universe will be able not to be fooled.
“I’m sorry.” would go a long way towards finding a lasting peace in the Middle East. After all, what did Jesus mean when he said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” and do you think he was just talking to the prostitute when he said “Go forth and sin no more.”?
No, he meant also to change the hearts of the crowd by having them admit to themselves and to each other that they have been wrong in the past! That true turn of the heart is the result of a true apology.
But, truth be told, most people are about as good at apologizing as they are at truely giving THANKS!
harleyquinn
said,
about 1 month ago
“I am sorry”.. “One might say that it is the foundation of Christian belief.”
Excuse me but saying I have sinned in front of God is a far cry from saying “I am sorry” to a religion based on domination. One might put you in the right with the big guy, the other will just get your butt whooped.
And as for having them admit they are wrong by saying we are wrong? WHAT? when has that worked with Islamic Muslim Radicals?
senorbullwinkle
said,
about 1 month ago
You’re a hideous and disgusting little thing, aren’t you ?
I would never try anything Jesus said, RV. That’s just dumb. ; )
PS everyone knows, the only ones going to heaven aren’t Jews or Muslim, they’re Christens ! And not just any Christens, Christens of MY religion. And not just Christens of MY religion, Only the good Christens of MY religion that Jesus forgives,…. Like ME !
If we can’t get along with Democrats here, what makes you think God is to let them in Heaven. Jews, Muslims, Dogs, and Democrats, aren’t going to Heaven. Can you guess where they’re going ?
Forgive, are you Crazy ?
senorbullwinkle
said,
about 1 month ago
http://fairtaxfraud.com/book.asp
DrCanuck said, about 1 month ago
As there is no such thing as a “soul,” no one is “going” anywhere after death.
harleyquinn
said,
about 1 month ago
Oh old bull I am so so sorry.. You are obvious a great great Christian who knows all…
Dr. Brainwashed
So you think and believe? The energy that is the spark of life just turns off like a switch. Well the old argument is you have nothing to lose by thinking that there is and a whole lot to lose out if you are wrong.
Might I also say that the spark has to go somewhere and I have never seen someone switch the switch back the other way.
4uk4ata said, about 1 month ago
” It isn’t YOUR neighborhood getting rockets launched into it. It isn’t YOUR kids getting blown to bits on sidewalks and inside school busses and Pizza Huts, while the people behind it win Nobel Peace Prizes.”
True words, indeed. They apply to those who support both sides of the conflict.
ReasonsVentriloquist said, about 1 month ago
And your proof of this is….Dr C.?
Not that it matters to the discussion at hand. Whether Jesus even was or not doesn’t really matter to me. Whether there is/was a God who wrote the Ten Commandments is immaterial. T
The TC are a framework of societal laws, they are rules that people can agree are good advice for peoples living in close proximity. The “I am the Lord” stuff is central to the idea that there is an authority (in our case, that authority is Law, which is enforced by the “power derived from a mandate of the masses”) And the “Keep holy the sabbath” reminds us to take a day off from work, it’s good for the sanity.
Jesus’s story is simply an extension of the basic rules (which overthrew Mosaic Law, which had become onerus, ornery, and overly protective of the wealthy) by saying “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”
Now, of course people like HQ existed then too and they would say things like “We’ll get our azzes whooped!” to which JC tried again and again to point out how turning the other cheek and forgiving trespasses are the best way to get the humanity to come forth in our enemies.
Here we are 2,000 years later and the azz still has his jawbones (one might say there are even more of them today!). The lessons still haven’t been learned by many who expect that Jesus will reward them for theobstinancy with which they held on to their flawed belief.
Let’s put religion to the side for a moment and look at how science overlaps it with Fractals. From Wiki: A fractal is “a rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be split into parts, each of which is (at least approximately) a reduced-size copy of the whole …
Human nature is the same. We’re all BASICALLY the same. There may be some of us who are more evil than others, but the vast majority of us just don’t have it in us to that extent. The vast majority of us would rather laugh than fight. Populations are made up of “fractals” we call “individuals” and the whole is actually very similar to the “Fractal”. Treat the nations as you would like to be treated and the nations will follow.
senorbullwinkle
said,
about 1 month ago
@ HQ, I’ll restate my earlier proposal. I wont read or comment on your post’s if you’ll do the same for me.
Having my post removed, makes any conversation we might have one sided. When you republicans make yourselves look foolish, and I point it out (Tea Baggers), you get mad and remove my post.That’s Not fair. So any thing I post from here on out, that you think I’m talking about you, is merely coincidental. I have NO desire to talk to you or Scott. Although I may comment on certain subject matters that you also are commenting on. Please Dont take it as if I’m commenting on your post.
PS, You said you wont look at any links I put up. Then that makes anything I say, Hear say. There is no reason to have a conversation with you. Plus you cant understand simple concepts.
http://fairtaxfraud.com/book.asp
And no taxes, or the Government cant run anything right. How many would be out of work, and all the private companies that are connected to them.
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/All_Agencies/index.shtml
Was a Christian for 45 years, and not a Sunday Christian.I know my Bible. I just got tired of ignoring obvious discrepancies and ludicrous statements.
senorbullwinkle
said,
about 1 month ago
NOT admitting their faults, has worked so well for so long, why change a thing.
harleyquinn
said,
about 1 month ago
Back on the meds after your trolling spamming senorbullwinkle? I only flagged those that were spam, like the same unrelated website over and over again. and the derogatory description that you were using that had no bases in the comic at hand. When you do those things there is nothing for me to comment on. see the problem? So “NOT admitting their faults, has worked so well for so long, why change a thing.”
Who are you talking about? The Islamic Muslims? They have their edict that goes back centuries, they want to stay there and everyone else who does not understand is an infidel and is in the wrong.
harleyquinn
said,
about 1 month ago
Something very suttle and wrong about this strip. 1st panel Israel is scowling, bush is smiling at him. Bush is frantic at Iran. But in the next Israel is smiling while Obama frowns at him? Then Obama looks “threating” and there has been no change in Iran?
To my knowledge Bush supported Israel and Israel liked Bush. Iran was working on Nuclear but surly they have stepped up their efforts after the apology tour of Obama. The only thing with Israel that I can work out is that they are happier with Obama is the fact they can tell him to push off we will take care of the problem our self.
DrCanuck said, about 1 month ago
RV: As you well know, there is no way I or anyone else can prove that something does NOT exist. The burden of proof is on those who says it does. But if there is no evidence for its existence, and if we can explain life as biochemical reactions, then a “soul” is superfluous, a failed hypothesis. Intellectual honesty and Occam’s razor demand we conclude it does not exist.
harleyquinn
said,
about 1 month ago
I will not go into details, you might know them doc, but the odds of us being here in this star system and on this planet are like hitting the lotto 100 times in a row. The universe itself could have fluctuated at the big bang one way or the other and it could not have held itself together. The beginning and ending of that is God.
But I digress you want to go into proving something does not exist, but for whom? You? I can not comprehend the Alpha and Omega of it all but if one day you can, then you can have your own god complex. Then you can claim it is all baloney, smoke and mirrors of biology. But as far as I know no human can prove that the spark of life is nothing but “reactions” We can only turn off the switch but we have never been able to turn it back on. Your “need” to reach out and justify your beliefs is just a reflection of you trying to understand something you do not. It is some say that very “need” to understand that is at the soul of man.
senorbullwinkle
said,
about 1 month ago
Well you got your Scott, Stripper, Irish eddy and Aninny, among Others with their repetitive crass racist vulgar bile. Then there’s HQ and Old Goat as of late with their tedious redundancy that never ends (well not so much old goat) One Can feign outrage over me saying that Scott was a “Tea Bagger”, and had my post removed.
Not for a moment do I believe she was offended, but that she was mad that I made Republicans look dumb and foolish and she could use “Tea Bagger” to shut me up.
Where is she when Scott uses vulgarity straight up ?
I have never flagged anyone.
If you are interested in becoming a Tea Bagger, you can get in touch with Glen Beck at www.teabagfoxnews.com
PS These are cartoons, they’re to make you laugh and to make you think, try one or the other or both.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-delaygetoutofjailfree.htm
ReasonsVentriloquist said, about 1 month ago
Except DrC. we all know that there is a soul. We may not know what it is and we may be wrong in our knowledge that there is one, but every sentient being has the software of a soul.
Every sentient living being will struggle to survive (occasionally one will give up its life in order to save the “greater good” of the group, and rarely one will do away with itself) and as such knows that there is a difference between being alive and being dead.
For you to insist that this “soul” does not exist therefore is a positive assertion just as if you pointed to the clear glass of a window and insisted that it wasn’t there. Everyone sees the evidence of its existence (it blocks the wind) and so it is your job to prove that the window is not there, not their’s to prove that it is.
While I will enjoy this conversation (I find religious discussions can be much less contentious than other subjects if both persons know up front that its all theory and BS) I would like to point out again that the existence of a soul, of a God, of a Jesus, of an Allah, of a Vishnu, of a Gaia or any other construct is irrelavent to my position that it is a better policy to admit one’s mistakes, treat others as one would like to be treated and expect that the others will do the same (or we’ll treat them as they treated us) than to insist that others forgive and forget towards our trespasses while we trespass again.
NorthCarolinian
said,
about 1 month ago
Israel is consistently being threatened with annihilation by most Middle Eastern states. Iran? Not so much.
M Henri Day said, about 1 month ago
Why all the discord and lack of civility ? Paresh is only pointing out that nothing of substance has changed in US policy towards Southwest Asia after the election of Mr Obama ; the Israeli stockplile of nuclear weapons is ignored, while Iran is castigated concerning weapons it does not have. T’was ever so ; great powers are not even-handed in their policies, but act in accordance with what the ruling elite believes to be its best interests. Mr Nixon didn’t travel to Beijing because he and Heinz Alfred discovered Revealed Truth in Mao Zedong’s writings, but because they felt it was the best way to stick it to Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev et consortes. Similarly, the Israeli tail will continue to wag the US dog so long as the leading elite of the latter country find it in their interest to permit the charade to continue….
Henri