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It is European…When given referendums the voters all said to the “Lisbon Takeover” NFW!!! led by the Irish, God luv’m. The nulabor dictators in the UK are affraid to have a vote.
Oldlegodad,
Any particular reason why you hate the Lisbon treaty? I can think of several if I lived in Europe but since I don’t, they’re really just reflexive political speculation.
BTW the polls didn’t look good for the Eurosceptics the second time ‘round.
Yes, of course I knew what the cartoon was about but, like myhaircut & 1sthoneygirl, the one blurred word was eluding me and for sake of completeness, I had to know! I was tossing between “brothers” and “Europeans”.
Glad there’s consensus on the word. ;-)
Unlike the Lisbon Treaty. Tried reading it. Argh!
But I was (am) largely for it. And in the distinct minority. Most EU member nations ratified this treaty through parliament despite lack of local popular support within most countries. The EU lacks a decent PR firm.
They’re really bleeep at marketing themselves. Mind you, at least we can clearly see its cumbersome ineptitude this way.
I was rather hoping a constitution or this treaty would help streamline its inner workings and make it stronger.
In the Treaty’s first form as the EU constitution, France & the Netherlands held referenda rejecting it.
The reworded (excised & expedited) version became the Treaty of Lisbon but for some legal reason only the Irish could hold a referendum on it and thus basically represented the entire EU (some 4,2 million for 491 million, not too bad). Their rejection killed it off the first time round.
The local Irish Libertas party had previously campaigned against it and when it had dismal showings in the latest European elections, I think it is moribund and so dies a local strong opposition to it.
So it will be rammed down their throats a second time round, because that’s the democratic way.
Thus its resurrection.
The weird thing is that the European Union is becoming stronger and more unified every year (which is what I prefer) but the local populations are shying away more and more from its elections. Stupid. Instead of helping to mould it, they don’t care and allow maybe a third to a half of the entire electorate who do care (and some are extremists), to represent them. Their views are left out. Stupid, very stupid.
Then they complain how intrusive the EU is becoming. Then F…..g vote!
Just by reading this site one can learn all about Europe without even getting the bottom-end off the chair. This modern age is just unbelievable! I had to pay an agent and travel for eighteen days.
Q,
I’ve been following this since the original Constitution issue, mostly through the Economist. I do occasionally skim through some other British publications. The Irish have no choice but to hold a referendum. I believe it has to do with a Constitutional requirement since they are effectively giving up some of their sovreignity. The reason that the other countries aren’t holding referendums on it is fairly straightforward. The majority of politicians i these countries are for it but are scared that their voters would reject it so they aren’t going to take the chance. Again, I have no real stake in the issue but it has been noted in several places that this is a particularly undemocratic method of passing a rather sweeping document.
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myhaircut
said,
5 months ago
“We’re all going to be born again WHAT this time?” I can’t read it, even on the largest size.
1stHoneygirl said, 4 months ago
Dang even at 400% I can not read it either. It just gets blurrier.
omQ R
said,
4 months ago
“Europeans” is my guess…
EDIT:
And searching thru’ the Irish Times website for his cartoon frustrated me!
I humbly await the answer. Please?
Gladius said, 4 months ago
Looks like Europeans to me. Especially considering the Lisbon headstone and the Irish vote on said treaty.
oldlegodad
said,
4 months ago
It is European…When given referendums the voters all said to the “Lisbon Takeover” NFW!!! led by the Irish, God luv’m. The nulabor dictators in the UK are affraid to have a vote.
Gladius said, 4 months ago
Oldlegodad,
Any particular reason why you hate the Lisbon treaty? I can think of several if I lived in Europe but since I don’t, they’re really just reflexive political speculation.
BTW the polls didn’t look good for the Eurosceptics the second time ‘round.
omQ R
said,
4 months ago
Yes, of course I knew what the cartoon was about but, like myhaircut & 1sthoneygirl, the one blurred word was eluding me and for sake of completeness, I had to know! I was tossing between “brothers” and “Europeans”.
Glad there’s consensus on the word. ;-)
Unlike the Lisbon Treaty. Tried reading it. Argh!
But I was (am) largely for it. And in the distinct minority. Most EU member nations ratified this treaty through parliament despite lack of local popular support within most countries. The EU lacks a decent PR firm.
They’re really bleeep at marketing themselves. Mind you, at least we can clearly see its cumbersome ineptitude this way.
I was rather hoping a constitution or this treaty would help streamline its inner workings and make it stronger.
In the Treaty’s first form as the EU constitution, France & the Netherlands held referenda rejecting it.
The reworded (excised & expedited) version became the Treaty of Lisbon but for some legal reason only the Irish could hold a referendum on it and thus basically represented the entire EU (some 4,2 million for 491 million, not too bad). Their rejection killed it off the first time round.
The local Irish Libertas party had previously campaigned against it and when it had dismal showings in the latest European elections, I think it is moribund and so dies a local strong opposition to it.
So it will be rammed down their throats a second time round, because that’s the democratic way.
Thus its resurrection.
The weird thing is that the European Union is becoming stronger and more unified every year (which is what I prefer) but the local populations are shying away more and more from its elections. Stupid. Instead of helping to mould it, they don’t care and allow maybe a third to a half of the entire electorate who do care (and some are extremists), to represent them. Their views are left out. Stupid, very stupid.
Then they complain how intrusive the EU is becoming. Then F…..g vote!
oldlegodad
said,
4 months ago
Bigear, yes, because europe will be muslim theocracy based on birthrates alone. And it won’t take a couple of hundred.
Buzzy-One said, 4 months ago
Just by reading this site one can learn all about Europe without even getting the bottom-end off the chair. This modern age is just unbelievable! I had to pay an agent and travel for eighteen days.
Gladius said, 4 months ago
Q,
I’ve been following this since the original Constitution issue, mostly through the Economist. I do occasionally skim through some other British publications. The Irish have no choice but to hold a referendum. I believe it has to do with a Constitutional requirement since they are effectively giving up some of their sovreignity. The reason that the other countries aren’t holding referendums on it is fairly straightforward. The majority of politicians i these countries are for it but are scared that their voters would reject it so they aren’t going to take the chance. Again, I have no real stake in the issue but it has been noted in several places that this is a particularly undemocratic method of passing a rather sweeping document.