If it’s a corporation, like the 92% of “corporations” in the U.S. that meet the same test as the “limited” folks in this case, employees will be under the “corporate theocracy” that is the real issue. About that government not mandating ANY favored “religion” in the U.S., or supporting it’s tyranny over non-believers.
it is terrible idea freedom of religion /// the government should have the right to okay beliefs // this will affect few employees
[sidebar] closely, not closley [/sidebar]
America is dead. Welcome to the Corporation — whether you like it or not.
Are you starting to understand the concept of being overtaxed and wanting to have a say in where your money goes? Say it ain’t so.
good news for you radish when you start to pay federal income tax they will use it to pay the interest on money borrowed to pay for the stmulus
^chuckles galore there, any idea how much your tax dollars go for the Afghan/Iraq stupidity, and the interest on “defense” spending??
“They just don’t want to be forced to pay for it if it goes against their beliefs.”Really? But, insurance is part of overall employee compensation. Why shouldn’t employers be able to forbid employees from spending their money on booze, tobacco or high fructose corn syrup? And, before dismissing it as preposterous, look at the history of companies that built town#Paternalism">"model communities".
What happened to the separation of chuch and state?
the original planners had the right idea on that.
Wages and benefits are not given by employers, they are earned by employees. The prejudices of the employer should not trump the liberty of the employee. If the employer can do this, why can’t he also dictate how his employees spend their wages? If this ruling applied only when the religious views on the question of employers and employee were the same, I could make out some sense in the matter. That, of course, does open another problem: discriminatory employment practices based on the religious views of the employee. Religious organizations like schools are now instituting ideological tests and oaths for employment, and are getting away with it by redefining the jobs as “missionary” or “pastoral” positions. In this way they can fire any employee who expresses an opinion contrary to their orthodoxy. I wonder if Hobby Lobby can now define it’s sales staff as missionaries and so require a religious test for employment. If Hobby Lobby were a Muslim-owned company, and wanted a pass from some federal law because that law was in conflict with Sharia law, do you think the court would have made the same decision?
Joadtom: Te Sachs for one, along with other genetic anomalies that are always fatal to the “infant”, or fetus, and sometimes mothers. CF and other horrible diseases can also be tested for. It’s also interesting that some of these are because of cultural inbreeding of close relatives, but I won’t go there with our religious right “red state” folks and their right to marry their close relatives or siblings…
^Ernie Ford’s “16 Tons” sums up well the “company store”, and exactly what corporations on the right want to return to.
“I think the days of the “company store” and the “company church” are way in the past. Just look at the lawsuits associated with the construction of the town of Ave Maria, Florida as an example.”http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-10-20/news/ave-maria-university-a-catholic-project-gone-wrong/2/Wow! I’d never heard of the place, but it seems that while the days of the “company town” are over, there are influential people who would see them revived.“As to insurance being part of overall employee compensation. Only if the company needs to offer it to be competitive in the industry or market in which they are trying to attract and retain employees.”Well, since fewer & fewer companies offer insurance to fewer & fewer of their employees (a trend that predates the ACA by a few decades), I guess the problem will be “solved” eventually.But, in the meantime, employer provided insurance is considered part of the compensation for each employee.
I generally like Auth but I am always put off when the editors can’t be bothered to check spelling. Can anyone spell “closely”? If you have something to say, spell it correctly.
This editorial cartoon and most of the comments show just how little people understand of the issue and how ignorantly they leap to the wrong conclusion. Here is the bottom line. Corporations are doing what they want to do now. Hobby Lobby offered birth control before Obamacare, but not options that would be considered an abortion. Obamacare tried to FORCE Hobby Lobby to do something they found morally objectionable, so Hobby Lobby sued and won. The employees at Hobby Lobby haven’t lost anything. Women haven’t been told to go to hell like Tony so ignorantly claims. Women haven’t lost any “rights”. Women at Hobby Lobby still get 16 of the 20 mandated birth control options under Obamacare, and nothing is stopping women from making whatever choices they want to make.
@echoravenMy comment wasn’t limited to the Hobby Lobby case. I was thinking on a broader scale. The gay marriage issue is a prime example.
Jase99, this ruling does not in any way limit what people can do. It limits the government’s power to force a business to supply birth control if the business has a religious objection to birth control. There was a conflict. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act (signed by Clinton) sets up a test for government intrusions that people have religious objections to it. The ONLY intrusion that has been tested is birth control. If a company has an issue with gays, that would be a whole different Supreme Court battle and over very different grounds. In this case, the government did not have a compelling enough case to force companies to supply birth control coverage when there are many other ways for women to obtain birth control. There is a ton of misinformation and flat out lies circulating on the internet. Read the ruling and then you will understand the true scope.
Hobby Lobby covered 16 of the 20 contraceptives mandated by Obama Care. “Women Go To Hell”? I don’t think so.
As long as those “closely held companies” keep contributing millions to the RNC SuperPac all will be well!
The Supremes strengthened the First Amendment which is a good thing. Too bad it doesn’t fit the desires of the Marxists who frequently blog here.
Just a war of words for you, right?
To get back to the cartoon: Women the biggest minority in the world, no matter what race, rich or poor
Most effective humor requires a reading of the case and the facts. You must have had a deadline, ‘cause you missed the facts here…or…just maybe…the abortion folk’s check cleared.
What a strange religion the cartoonist must follow if he believes that women will go to hell unless they are provided with free birth control by their employers so that they do not have to pay between $10 and $30 per month out of pocket. Just like men do.
Tony, you better get back here before congress does!
Why do employers have to offer health insurance at all? I bet if we all paid our own premiums, the overall cost would come down because the insurance companies would have to adjust their rates. How about the people who made no claims or few claims against their insurance for 30, 40 years. Why should they have to pay the same as those who have used the insurance from the day they became eligible to make a claim. I am old now and need to use medicare, but I paid into it for over 50 years, and continue to pay into it. I think it is fair for me to do so, I don’t complain about that, but I do think it is ridiculous for me to have to pay supplemental insurance that includes fees for services I will never have to use.
it started in ww2 when employer were not allowed to offer raises
Gad, is Auth totally out of business just like the abortion clinics?
Something is not right. A lot has happened since we last heard from Tony!
Hobby Lobby was paying for all of the contraceptives except abortifacents—something the media conveniently leaves out of its stories. No one should be forced to pay for other people’s abortive drugs!
Succinctly put. Well done!
This cartoonist is twisting the facts so far they are no longer recognizable. This company offers good insurance that cover 16 of 20 birth control methods; and the other four are available over the counter for less than 50 dollars.Funny; I don’t see anything about any of that in this “cartoon/fantasy”.
The GOP tells women to go to hell? Then the Dems tell white males to go to hell.
Ah,… Tony. Summer’s over. You comin’ back?
quite the vacation he’s on
I don’t think it’s a vacation. It has been 10 weeks since Tony Auth published any new material (either here or on his own website, his last post there was late June). Even though there have been no announcements whatsoever, this is starting to look really ominous. I wish him the best of luck for a speedy return.
Just read (9-14-14) that Tony Auth died today of brain cancer. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Tony. He passed away today at age 72.
R.I.P. Tony Auth!
Rest in Peace, Tony.
Gradually all the editorial artists and columnists of my much younger days, the ones I clipped from real newspapers, disappear…
Rest in peace, Tony. You sure brought us some great thought provoking toons. Missed you and will continue to miss you…your style, your point of view, your humor. From a big fan.
SAD SAD SAD
sad news. Tony died this week. great interview with him on Fresh Air
Blows head in moment of silence
Another “good one” will be missed.
Rest on peace, Tony. You will be missed, but you are going to a better place than here.
It’s about time that GoComics replaced this cartoon with a more appropriate image for Mr. Auth’s “final message”.
General William T. Sherman felt all reporters belong in Hell, but we all know that the ’toonists, like all good dogs, wind up in Heaven. Thanks for all the thought-provoking humor Tony!
Abortion goes against my belief, why should my tax dollars pay for it?
interesting last cartoon.
Dimbulb W Bush’s executive order forces me to pay for other people’s religious/ superstitious ideas. The 6 Catholics and 3 Jews who make up our Supreme Court, are destroying our Constitution. And corporations aren’t people: They’re immortal, which means they’re gods.
geez. this is awful. Rest in peace. :-(
Yesterday the voters had the same message for all you gender baiters.
It’s time to remove this artist and his work. We all die, GoComics needs to move on.
Isn’t it time to take down this highly partisan political cartoon as an “epitaph”?
I guess Tony is stuck in a time warp.
Happy New Year Tony! (Oh, I forgot, there is no such concept as “time” where you are.) Do they let you keep ’tooning up there?