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scottfreitas said, 12 days ago

Love all the loaded questions. Why didn’t he add “Stop beating your wife yet?” and “Stop molesting your kid yet?” and maybe “Stop stealing cars yet?” as a finisher…

Also, that liberal witch in NY 23rd would have easily qualified as being a far-left DEMONCRAT. Which she cheerily made obvious to the world by immediately endorsing the Demoncrat candidate after GOP voters rejected her.

“Moderate?” This dishonest cartoon is so typical of the lying leftwing media…
Fairportfan2 said, 12 days ago

scotty - you forgot your meds again…
Bill Ewing said, 12 days ago

Hey, Tony, you finally got one right!!!!

Prevent another depression?: Get Government out of business;

Fix Health Care?: Let doctors doctor;

Stop greenhoues emissions?: Stop up Chinese and Indian (Asian type) smoke stacks.

Purge Moderates? You’re quite right. Moderation in anything political is an immediate loser for Republicans.

Good job, Tony, you told it as it should be!!!
HUMPHRIES said, 12 days ago

Bill like how you lable the moderates as “losers”, so far you wingnutz haven’t been a real help to the party.
harleyquinn said, 12 days ago

Like being a moderate and not standing for anything will get you anywhere.
Prevent another depression, history shows that if government gets out of the way we recover much quicker in these cycles.
Health care? well instead of scraping the best care in the world how about work with those who do the doctoring?
Stop green house emissions. oh yes that dihydrogen monoxide that makes up 98% of the gas needs strong regulations.
HOWGOZIT said, 12 days ago

Humph–are there not “wingnutz” on both sides? Sometimes it is hard to see who you are chastizing.
Anthony 2816 said, 12 days ago

Love the way Scott decided he couldn’t respond to anything in the cartoon, so instead just set up his usual strawmen.
fbrewer said, 12 days ago

@HQ - I’m a moderate, centrist independent. That means I stand in favor of preventing another depression, and fixing health care, and addressing global warming. I also am strongly in favor of the bleeep (Conservative Republicans Against Progress) purging the moderates. The Democratic party obviously needs a few more.
charlie555 said, 12 days ago

Rev 3:16

“So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”

– English KJV
Ken Warren said, 12 days ago

After the landslide loss in 2008 the only Republicans left in office were from safe districts, and most of the safe districts were the most conservative.

With Fox and Rush leading the way the Republicans found that the way to attention from the media was to attack, attack, and attack whatever the Democrats were doing, and Obama with anything they could think of such as “Not Really a citizen”.

It all worked, but it gave power and control to the Far Right, and now they are going to use that power and control to build the Republican Party of their dreams.

Moderates and their moderate positions are an endangered species.
Libertarian1 said, 12 days ago

Some here have the NYT disease. Literally everyone they associate with has the same political convictions so they think they are dead center and moderate. Here is a off the top of my head list of a few of the questions facing our country.
1) Universal health or single payer/opposed
2) Pro-choice/pro-life
3) Death penalty
4) SSM
5) Union card check
6) Affirmative Action
7) Balance budget/deficit spending for health, welfare etc
8) Evolution/intelligent design
9) Legalize pot/don’t
10) Continue Afghanistan/leave

If your beliefs are 10/10 for the left viewpoint you are not moderate, you are not a liberal, you are a far left liberal.

Conversely, if your viewpoint is 10/10 for the conservative viewpoint you are not a moderate, you are not a conservative but you are a far right conservative.

7/8 towards one viewpoint makes you either a liberal or conservative. A true moderate- the “independent” who makes up 40% of the electorate and decides elections will balance out their views splitting 4-6 or 6-4.

In general, the best informed, the most knowledgeable end up at one of the extremes but that is not the way to win elections.
Ken Warren said, 12 days ago

Liber – Very well written, my guess that most of us who post on these pages are 10/10 to the right or to the left, except for a few that I fear are 30/0 to the right.
senorbullwinkle said, 12 days ago

^^^ SORRY CHAR-LIE 666,

PUT SOME TABASCO ON IT !

http://www.mexican-barbecue-recipes.com/tabasco-hot-sauce-recipes.html

KEN WARREN, I think you’ll find those districts have no dissenting voice, No Democratic radio or TV. Not even NPR, or PBS.
It’s shameful to have this going on in America.
Anthony 2816 said, 12 days ago

Kind of sad that someone would think that understanding science and recognizing mythology makes one a liberal.
HOWGOZIT said, 12 days ago

No one posting here understands much of anything–either side of the aisle.
DrCanuck said, 12 days ago

Anthony, to the extent that the real meaning of liberal is “intelligent, educated, open-minded, and critical thinking,” the definition you gave of liberal is right-on.
motivemagus said, 11 days ago

Libertarian, that is an interesting but overly simplistic list, I think; and I also don’t think you are quite right in “far left” versus “far right.” Perhaps with things like:
1) nationalize industry/eliminate all regulation
2) Redistribution of all property/debtor prison
3) Abortion required at all hospitals/death penalty and whipping required in all states
Etc.
At least I hope you aren’t right on that, because I’d like to find room for compromise on most things – except science versus “intelligent design,” of course.
eaglesofwar said, 11 days ago

For all your science lovers out their. This is an example of the bleeep they put out.

I was reading a book to my grade school son that he got from school. It was on the universe. He is interested in this.

The story on the earth and the moon was as follows.

Billions of years ago the earth was smaller and it collided with mars. Pieces broke off and formed the earth to a larger planet and one piece did not merge and that became the moon.

Reading bleeep like that really put my opinion of any scientific evidence at the point of make believe.

I myself was interested in dinosaurs and the universe when I was younger. I even won first place at a science fair project when I was in junior high.
But the bleeep put out as scientific was even hard to believe then such as fish walking out of the water.
fbrewer said, 11 days ago

@eagles - I don’t know what book you were reading, but if it was actually a science book, you either misunderstood, or you remember incorrectly. No astrophysicist would talk about a collision between Earth and Mars, with the moon left over. That’s just silly.

In the interest of expanding your knowledge of the wonders of the natural world, do a quick search and spend a few minutes reading about lungfish and walking fish. There really are such creatures.
Libertarian1 said, 11 days ago

Motivemagnus

You are beautifully playing the liberal “moderate” game. You post truly far out leftist views and compare them with right mainstream conservative views ignoring the true conservative equivalents of your views.

English only, no- zero- foreign languages spoken by government officials. All ballots only in English.

Graduated income taxes eliminated. Flat for all.

All corporation income taxes eliminated.

10th amendment followed strictly. No - zero- funds from DC for education etc etc.

I could go on and on. But these are the right wing equivalents of what you advocate every single day.
BOB HASTY said, 11 days ago

Hey Lib!!!
Corporations already have enough loop-holes to make your point moot.
I think you’re getting your “streams” mixed.

Scott, When did you start beating your wife?
comYics said, 11 days ago

I think its awesome how scientists seek for the truth, and how nearly all scientists dedicated to finding that truth admit that all creation has an intelligent maker of it.
Anthony 2816 said, 11 days ago

Comyics, while I’m sure telling yourself that makes you feel better, it’s highly unlikely to be true…christian creationism is not in the least bit scientific.
comYics said, 11 days ago

I dont find a problem with people discovering history and the way things work and origins through study. I encourage it. I enjoy it myself. And I also believe in God.
senorbullwinkle said, 11 days ago

^ Maybe you should discover the history of Religion ?
fritzoid said, 11 days ago

From a 1998 paper in Nature entitled “Leading Scientists Still Reject God”:

“Disbelief in God and immortality among NAS (National Academy of Science) biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers. We found the highest percentage of belief among NAS mathematicians (14.3% in God, 15.0% in immortality). Biological scientists had the lowest rate of belief (5.5% in God, 7.1% in immortality), with physicists and astronomers slightly higher (7.5% in God, 7.5% in immortality). ”

The numbers skewed more strongly towards atheism than when the same study was conducted in 1914 and 1933.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/sci_relig.htm

comYics said: “I think its awesome how scientists seek for the truth, and how nearly all scientists dedicated to finding that truth admit that all creation has an intelligent maker of it.”

So it’s your position that the vast majority of scientists are not “dedicated to finding [the] truth”, then?
comYics said, 11 days ago

These are some percentages also.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-19332942.html

That says 40%.

and another.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20090716/survey-one-third-of-scientists-believe-in-god/index.html

Not 7%.

One dedicated to truth realizes that God made it.

This is an awesome read from the Bible.
2 Timothy 3

Psalm 14:1

1 Corinthians 13:6
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

I hope all that study science are interested in finding the truth.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
fritzoid said, 11 days ago

Better the ugly truth than the beautiful lie…
NeoconMan said, 11 days ago

comYics said, Dont hate us cause were beautiful.

Yeah, I hate it when that happens.
fritzoid said, 11 days ago

comYics, your encyclopedia.com link seems to refer to the same study by Larson as mine, but since it doesn’t give the data (neither does mine), we can’t compare how our interpretations differ. However, the quoted passage in mine is taken directly from Larson’s paper, so I’ll stick with my numbers…

A further quote from the Larson paper:

“As we compiled our findings, the NAS issued a booklet encouraging the teaching of evolution in public schools…. The booklet assures readers, ‘Whether God exists or not is a question about which science is neutral’. NAS president Bruce Alberts said: ‘There are many very outstanding members of this academy who are very religious people, people who believe in evolution, many of them biologists.’ Our survey suggests otherwise.” [emphasis added]
senorbullwinkle said, 11 days ago

1 Video 9:50 min. on religion, where it comes from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD9f0XU_S78
2 Video 9:48 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frwlyx2u8JE&feature=related
3 video 7:46 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovFFZ4iEFCo&NR=1

And this guy has all kinds of Good stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/user/zuke696?blend=1&ob=4#p/f
comYics said, 10 days ago

Im having so much fun with this.

senorbullwinkle, Im curious to hear your explanation of where space came from.

fritzoid, Im going straight from the facts of that article that states,
“Some 40 percent of the scientists said they do believe in God. The number is the same percentage found in the famous 1916 survey conducted by noted psychologist James Leuba.”
comYics said, 10 days ago

senorbullwinkle, unfortunately, those videos were made by atheists that dont believe in God, therefore are not educated enough to teach about God.

I however cant say how old the earth is, God can, and perhaps man can get a rough estimate, hopefully find how old earth is one day. God willing.

Your third link(video) said that Egyptians came up with the bible, then later in that video said that the Romans wrote the bible. I hope the guy that wrote that/narrorated that video doesnt call himself a scientist, his information is neither accurate nor organized, nor stays with his original idea.

Fortunately The Bible keeps its course without contradicting itself. May God bless.
senorbullwinkle said, 10 days ago

Maybe you didn’t get the memo from the head office.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/aprilweb-only/117-31.0.html

I dont mean to insult you, But I dont think your educated enough to speak on any of the subjects you’ve touched on here.

If you Believe that a Magical Man made everything, So did I. I could quote that Bible backward and forward. But I had to put away my childish things.
Once the world was flat and everything went around it. Now the world is round and we go around the sun. And not to long ago we thought our Galaxy was the universe, but now we know we are but a speck in Billions of Galaxies.
We need not be afraid and superstitious any more.

What you should have ask me was, do I believe in an after life. And I would have told you, that nothing is ever lost. Not smoke nor wind, nor a rainbow, or any living thing no matter how small. Water turns in to steam, steam turns to the wind, only to become something else.
Oh, and time is just an illusion.
senorbullwinkle said, 10 days ago

Here’s one from randy newman.
video 3:20 min.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60AChuvfzUo
DrCanuck said, 10 days ago

senorbullwinkle said, “…nothing is ever lost. Not smoke nor wind, nor a rainbow, or any living thing no matter how small…”

Beautifully stated and quite true. But the problem with your analysis is that “soul,” “mind,” or “life” are not “things.” They are concepts. Abstractions. When a husband and wife split up, where is the “marriage,” what did it turn into? When the criminal escapes, where now does “justice” exist? When you smash your car, into what timeless dimension did the “running” slip off to? Is there an afterlife for your computer “programming” when your hard drive crashes?
Anthony 2816 said, 10 days ago

So Comyics has gone from saying “nearly all” scientists believe in god to now saying only 40% do.

At this rate, by tomorrow he may be closer to the truth.
comYics said, 10 days ago

It amuses me to a point currently that you lift yourself up so highly about not having a clue(unconciously of course) then have nerve to type to say everything is everything, and Im wrong? According to that statement your saying “dont call me wrong, Im better, your wrong.” But also according to that statement your saying, “your right I didnt mean to try and hurt your feelings” .

The fact that you dont understand that God has already taught, facts are clear as day, and your blabering about time and space are kiddie play to me is too hilarious. I have to end this, meaningless debate your trying to force me to enter.

Trust me, if you view that video and put yourself in the shoes of the ones that narrorator is talking about, youll understand how ignorant your insults against me appear from this view, at least, God willing, a glimpse, I hope.

Your not going to hurt my feelings any worse than youve done by rejecting me, so throw your best, if ya want. I hope that I have not offended you.

On another subject, NASA has been experimenting with a cord line that attaches from earth to the moon, possibly mars, that transports a carrier on the cord. The cord is 100 times stronger than metal. It is able to send people(Ideally) into space without using the space shuttle, safer and make 100 plus trips daily. Awesome right.
comYics said, 10 days ago

senorbullwinkle,
With God inside of us it is possible to not sin, God does not sin. It is God that is sinless.

Anthony 2816,
All scientist that are seeking the actual truth, will eventually find it. Some know the Lord, some are coming to know the Lord. Rather someone is going to hell or going to Heaven though, that is for the good God to decide.
senorbullwinkle said, 10 days ago

I’m sorry, but you have misunderstood me. What I’m talkin about, is a Scientist (I forget the date) Between 15th and 17th century, who put dirt, water, metal, wood, and junk, in a large glass bottle, and sealed it up. He left sit in a window for like a year. Until most of the metal and wood was rusted & rotted away to dust. He weigh the bottle before and weigh it after. The bottle weigh the same. But what happen to the metal and wood ? It was gone and the bottle should have weighed less.
You would think that all the trees that grow would make the world heaver and heaver, but a tree grows by sucking up the earth it grows in. Only changing the elements into something else.And the world still weights the same.
Nothing is ever lost

Is there a Cosmic conscience ? Flowers turn their leaves to the sun, ants and bees seem to know each others mind, and the job each is to do. The birds build nest together, and seem to know where each twig should go. or mud.

Now, many civilizations have had no God, yet they know Good from Bad, right from wrong. Having no God does not make one evil. But there have been many Evils done in the name of God.

I only tell you all of this, not to put you down or to say I’m better (although it’s true ) and you’re wrong, But to let you understand why we think the way we do. We’re not at war with you, but it seems that religious people are at war with us, and wont be happy until they save us or kill us.
I leave you with this.
http://www.kalliope.org/digt.pl?longdid=whitman2001060931

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/lyingforgod.html
senorbullwinkle said, 10 days ago

Oh, and the elevator to space, they’re still working on a cable light enough and strong enough to work. Trouble is any cable we have now would break from it’s own weight. They’re working on a carbon they call ( I think) tubes. They’re trying to get them to link to each other.
But that’s old news. At least a year or 2 old.

What you need to read or see is “The mystery of Chaco Canyon”. I saw it on PBS the other night. You should see if your PBS station is showing it. It was mind bending. It will boggle your mind.
Guaranteed to get your kid an “A”.
churchillwasright said, 10 days ago

COMYICS: The concept of a “space elevator” has been around since 1895. I know it’s been discussed all of my life.

What you’re referring to is using carbon-based nanotube technology, which, while extremely strong, is still about 1/3 the tensile strength engineers think they need. NASA and a lot of companies are pouring a ton of money into it. It’s an exciting new field– something with such incredible strength and yet so lightweight– and it has tons of more practical applications than building a stairway to space. I can’t even begin to wrap my head around it’s theory. Still, it’s barely in it’s infancy– it’s only been around since the ‘90’s– so you never know.

wiki:Space Elevator
TimeWeaver said, 10 days ago

Um, the space elevator concept does not involve attaching anything the moon. Since the moon orbits the earth, this would cause the cable to be dragged around the earth each month, or assuming it was anchored on the earth, snap the cable. More amusingly, if you assume a cable and anchoring mechanism of sufficient strength, it would pull the moon out of orbit while wrapping the earth like a ball of string.

The space terminus of the elevator would be in geo-sync.

Anyone care to calculate the potential energy of such a cable should it ever snap at the space end (where the most stress from weight would be) and fall to earth?
senorbullwinkle said, 10 days ago

Do you mean WITH the Moon attached ?
Anthony 2816 said, 10 days ago

Comyics, there are thousands of gods you don’t believe in (say, Quetzalcoatl, for instance).

If you can figure out why you don’t believe in them, then you’ll be able to grasp why I don’t believe in yours.

The type of “truth” you’re talking about is a very relative thing.

Most importantly, keep reminding yourself that just because you need a crutch to deal with being alive doesn’t mean everyone else needs that crutch.
fritzoid said, 10 days ago

“fritzoid, Im going straight from the facts of that article that states,
‘Some 40 percent of the scientists said they do believe in God. The number is the same percentage found in the famous 1916 survey conducted by noted psychologist James Leuba.’”

No, the article you’re quoting from is commenting on Larson’s paper, you’re not quoting Larson’s paper itself. My quotes are from Larson’s paper. You should learn the difference between scientific reportage and “spin”.

Here, however, is some other commentary, from the article (not by Larson) from which I pulled the above quotes (which are from Larson’s paper):

“The popular media balyhoo the fiction that science is supportive of religion. A recent issue of Newsweek (July 20, 1998) featured a cover story “Science finds God” which gave many innocent readers the impression that scientists in droves were finding scientific “evidence” allowing for God and an afterlife and were jumping on the religion bandwagon. Some of these 1998 reports were stimulated by a June 1998 Science and the Spiritual Quest Conference organized by Robert John Russell, and sponsored by The Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences (CTNS) at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley.

”Since this is an organization devoted to the reconcilation of science and religion it’s no surprise [that] the speakers were supportive of the idea of the possibility of god and/or an afterlife, though some of the papers were so speculative and abstruse that it’s hard to tell whether they were profound philosophy or mere moonshine. One wonders whether some speakers came just for the stipend provided by the John Templeton Foundation. Several Nobel-Prize winning scientists gave papers at this meeting. The papers were mostly philosophical and speculative. No new hard evidence was produced. News reports failed to put these wishful speculations in perspective by pointing out that most scientists are, in fact, not religious. And the percent of “leading” scientists who hold religious beliefs has been declining from around 30% in 1914 to less than 10% in 1998.” [emphasis added]

But let’s skip the commentary and look at the actual data:

“Larson and Witham present the results of a replication of 1913 and 1933 surveys by James H. Leuba. In those surveys, Leuba mailed a questionnaire to leading scientists asking about their belief in “a God in intellectual and affective communication with humankind” and in “personal immortality”. Larson and Witham used the same wording [as in the Leuba studies], and sent their questionnaire to 517 members of the [U.S.] National Academy of Sciences from the biological and physical sciences (the latter including mathematicians, physicists and astronomers). The return rate was slightly over 50%.

“The results were as follows (figures in %):

BELIEF IN PERSONAL GOD
…….1914…….1933……1998
Personal belief
……..27.7……..15………7.0
Personal disbelief
……..52.7……..68……..72.2
Doubt or agnosticism
……..20.9……..17………20.8

BELIEF IN IMMORTALITY
……..1914……1933……1998
Personal belief
………35.2……..18………7.9
Personal disbelief
………25.4……..53……..76.7
Doubt or agnosticism
………43.7……..29…….. 23.3

“Note: The 1998 immortality figures add up to more than 100%. The misprint is in the original. The 76.7% is likely too high.”

This is the data set from which the article to which you link somehow determined that (a) 40% of scientists believe in God, and (b) that number had not changed (more accurately, plummetted) in 80 years.
senorbullwinkle said, 10 days ago

Dec. 25, truth or lie ?
Believe or Not.

Do you Believe the Church would never lie ? Yes or No ?
Do you Believe the Church dont care about POWER ? Yes or No ?
George Washington could not tella lie. true or false ?
George Washington chopped down the cherry tree. true or false ?
If you were born in a Muslim country, would convert to Christianity. Yes or No ?
Is the GOD you believe in the same GOD that Jews, and Muslims Believe in. Yes or No ?
Is Harry Potter the anti-Christ . True or false ?
comYics said, 10 days ago

Sweet, ok where to start…

The year is currently 2009 fritzoid.

Senorbullwinkle, your idea is that earth, space, galaxy, universe, came froom nowhere? where is nowhere, where is somewhere, you have to have gave it some thought I hope?

I watched the project by NASA being presented on The History Channel International about the cable line. A contest was started in 2003 to build a better transport device to move faster along the cable, for any group or individual to make the best transport device, and NASA is offering a $2million reward for the best one. It is currently still ongoing if any of you are interested.

churchillwasright, I wasnt aware that it was put into thought so long ago, I think its an awesome idea. The cable being so lightweight and yet 100 times stronger than the strongest metal is amazing.

TimeWeaver, I think it is interesting about the cable getting wrapped around the earth theory, I sure hope NASA is capaable of thinking of that, or that could be a disaster. I believe NASA has thought of that and accomidated it, seeing as NASA is still pushing forward with the project. And yeah, thatd be a big suck to have a cable traveling snappage speed twords earth for whomevers in its path.

Anthony 2816, I find joy in the good word, and am hoping others can find joy in it also. I believe you type on this forum to, at least sometimes, get your point of views across. As far as me trying to force you to believe in God, that isnt exactly my goal. Though I think that whether conciously or unconciously, you have at least a little belief in God.

senorbullwinkle, Id encourage you to read some of the proverbs, its really brilliant, mind expandinding stuff. Its good. I think disapline is a good thing.
fritzoid said, 10 days ago

“The year is currently 2009 fritzoid.”

Yes, but the Larson study we were both referring to was published in 1998, which compared then-current results of a survey that had previously been conducted (by Leuba) in 1913 (published 1914) and 1933. A precipitous drop in religious belief among scientists over a span of 85 years. Do you imagine that something has happened in the last 11 years to not only reverse the trend but bring the believers from less than 10% to almost 40%? Even in 1914 the non-believers outnumbered the believers nearly two-to-one. And what about your “nearly all”, as you had originally represented?
comYics said, 10 days ago

Nearly all reffers to those actually seeking the Truth, will eventually find it. I hope each one that reffers to himself, herself, as a scientist are seeking the Truth.

Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

The quoted text I posted was a study done in 1916, compared to a study done in 1997 reflecting a 40% belief percentage. Fluctuating depending on the people they ask.

I think we both can agree that a voting system such as the presidential election voting, of belief and nonbelief could bring a better accurate count for percentages.