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  1. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 2 years ago

    In places and times where workers are in high demand, and workers can pick and choose where they will work, and have some bargaining power, the “minimum wage” is unnecessary. However, that is rarely the case in the modern world. Indeed, when such conditions prevail, employers complain of the “high cost” of labor and of the “unreliability” of workers who might go from job to job looking for better pay.

    You can argue that the “minimum wage” should be set at a level that encourages work and demand and prevents exploitation, but not so high as to cripple businesses, and that it should be maintained at that level by periodically adjusting it for inflation. It could certainly be set too high, but you would have to outdo even Seattle to do that. One might also want to have a lower “minimum” for apprentice workers; it need not be the same for teenagers as adults. One can also still dispute how often it should be adjusted, and how high it should be, but preserving its buying power is key.

    OR You can argue that “minimum wage” should be eliminated, and instigate a “race to the bottom” as businesses try to work out how little they can pay and still retain a workforce in the present “buyers’ market” for workers. If classical economics are correct, we’ll soon have “twice the jobs at half the pay” and the unemployment rate will fall along with median income, and the ranks of the working poor will rise. Employers will naturally like this idea if they are short-sighted (as most people are) because (except at rare times of high employment) it gives that much more power over their workforce and lowers their costs. Experience suggests, however, that such a policy will not create many more jobs, at least not enough to offset the ill effects of the policy. But standing for the elimination of the “minimum wage” is at least intellectually honest.

    The dishonest, and hypocritical stand is to argue that the “minimum wage” should exist, but it should be static and rarely, if ever, be raised, and never in a depressed economy (the only time it is really useful). This stand is just eliminating it by stealth, as the cartoon suggests. This is often the stand of those fools who say, with great sarcasm “Why not just raise it to $50 an hour and make every worker rich?” The best answer to which is “Why not just lower it to 50 cents an hour and cut every business’s costs, and make every business thrive?”

  2. Edward Clayton

    Edward Clayton said, over 2 years ago

    “Every single economic study” shows nothing of the kind.

  3. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    "Indeed, when such conditions prevail, employers complain of the “high cost” of labor and of the “unreliability” of workers who might go from job to job looking for better pay. "

    About 15 years ago I used to work part time at a convenience store as a favor to the manager. The company paid a minimum wage starting pay and instructed their managers not to schedule anyone to have more than 29 hours per week.. The good employees stayed for about three to six months to gain experience, then quit to work for a competitor for more money. Other employees only stayed until they found a job in a bar or restaurant. Those that stayed tended to be incompetent, emotionally checked out, and/or thieves. Thanks to the company’s refusal to pay for drug testing, we also had a stoner that got high during his shift. The manager complained to head office about the situation and the company promised to raise the starting wage if she could find two other convenience stores that paid a higher starting wage. When she did, they reneged on the deal, telling her they refused to match one competitor because they paid their employees too much.

  4. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 2 years ago

    @Edward Clayton

    If you followed Michael’s links you would have seen that he was joshing you. The links demonstrate exactly what you are saying too. Obviously if you raised the minimum too high, too fast, there would be problems. Seattle is pushing the envelope, perhaps, but that is all.

  5. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 2 years ago


    Thanks for that posting! Nice to see a real-world example of what I was talking about. When Henry Ford got started, he paid wages much higher than the “industry average” because he wanted good, reliable, long-term workers. And who wants the other kind?

  6. Christopher Shea

    Christopher Shea said, over 2 years ago

    Labor is only a small part of the costs behind an item. Do you honestly believe that if we raise the minimum wage, say, $3, a Big Mac will automatically cost $3 more?

    I recall back during the Obamacare debates when the crapsack running Papa John’s announced that if he was forced to provide health insurance for his employees, he would have to charge … 11 to 14 cents more for a pizza. Awful and backbreaking, right?

  7. D Lee

    D Lee GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Henry Ford was the originator of the assembly line. He visited a shoe manufacturer who was very proud of his adaptation of that process which was highly mechanized. He needed only a few employees. Ford’s question was " Yeah, but how many shoes do those machines buy each year?"

  8. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 2 years ago

    Amazing how the super rich are doing so good under Obama?

  9. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 2 years ago

    The amount of EBT assistance one receives is on a sliding scale based on income. Unless the minimum wage is increased beyond what is received by a family’s current income plus their EBT, the family will actually receive no benefit from the increase.

  10. nlkilpat

    nlkilpat GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Re. Mr. Michael and Mr. Clayton;
    The correct studies show that the feudal system (that we are returning to) will have, by far, the most favorable outcome. Sharecropping was also in the running, but came in second.

  11. AgentSmith101

    AgentSmith101 said, over 2 years ago

    Why a depression in 2016?

  12. wbr

    wbr said, over 2 years ago

    When President Franklin D. Roosevelt first created the minimum wage in 1938, it was 25 cents. Adjusted for inflation, that would be worth $4.07 today. – See more at:

  13. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    “May I point out that the last time there was near universal high demand for workers was during the Clinton years. When even McDonalds and Burger King had to pay nearly double minimum wage in order to get workers. And you know what? They ALL were profitable. "
    Yeah, at that time people who wanted one could get a job. Race relations were better than they are now, and crime was down.
    And Republicans hated it. And they vowed it would never happen again. And so far, they’ve been successful.

  14. MangeyMoose

    MangeyMoose said, over 2 years ago

    I have mentioned this before. PART of the reason that raising the minimum wage is another by-product of the exodus of shipping jobs overseas. There are millions of workers who were employed for 10 or 20 years at a company which either got into serious trouble (during which executive officers gave themselves “retention” bonuses), was bought out, or shipped part of, or all operations overseas. They probably have families who depend on him, mortgages, insurance and rising energy costs to contend with. After a period of unemployment, many managed to get a job at a fast-food outlet, a big-box store chain or delivering pizza. These are the UNDER-EMPLOYED. I know quite a few of them personally, as many of you may. They struggle to keep their heads from going under, plundering the kid’s college funds, their savings, their retirement investments.

    Working at the above mentioned jobs USED to be a starting point for teens, part time mothers or retirees, but today, it is the only job many can get! This is a major reason for raising the minimum wage today.

    Whichever party takes power in 2016 SHOULD make it a TOP PRIORITY to entice American businesses back to U.S. soil. Bringing prosperity back to the middle class will ease, if not eliminate many of the problems we now have. The top of the economic pyramid have had their rape. How about it Washington? How about the rest of us?

  15. CasualBrowser

    CasualBrowser said, over 2 years ago

    “If the minimum wage is increased by such a huge amount the unions will get a huge wage increase too as their wages are tied to the minimum wage.
    Hence more in political donations to the democrats from the unions.”
    Translation: Keep poor Americans poor- any excuse to stick it to Democrats!

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