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Tom Toles

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  1. richardelguru

    richardelguru GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Clark,
    >4: A strong viable Socialist party in the USA.

    As an expat Brit over here, I’d settle for either party being as far

     
     
    left as the Tory Party…. under Thatcher!

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 2 years ago

    I also like Australian rules voting.

  3. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 2 years ago

    @motivemagus

    I like the fact that voters are fined for not voting. Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Patrick Henry, George Mason, etc. were all elected by voters who were subject to a hefty fine if they failed to vote when able to. Voting is properly a responsibility and duty of citizens. Failure to vote ought to be treated like draft dodging used to be, or evading jury service, or other shirking of duty. The question is not “Why force apathetic and ignorant voters to go to the polls?” The question is “Why encourage voters to be ignorant and apathetic?” Run-off elections would also be useful, to enable third parties to actually show their strength. How many people say to themselves, “I would vote libertarian” or “I would vote socialist” if they didn’t think doing so would be to throw their votes away. And get rid of the electoral college, or at least let each state’s electoral vote be awarded proportionally: that way, every state would really matter, as at least one electoral vote would be up for grabs in each state.

    The Constitution was written to prevent small, temporary majorities from making ill-considered and unwise amendments. I doubt the founders expected it to become a straight-jacket preventing the people from having what they want in and from their government. <br
    But of course, those who are actually in control, whoever we may think they are, and to the extent that anyone is actually in control, are all wedded to the status quo. And I sometime despair that there is the politic will in this country to do anything to prevent our continued slide downhill, there being so little consensus about what is needed to reverse the present trends.

  4. Newenglandah

    Newenglandah said, over 2 years ago

    @richardelguru

    There is no leftist major party in the US. There is merely a center-right party and an extreme-right party.

  5. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 2 years ago

    Newenglandah said, about 1 hour ago
    @richardelguru
    “There is no leftist major party in the US. There is merely a center-right party and an extreme-right party.”——————————————————-
    If Lefty O isn’t liberal enough for you, maybe you should move to Cuba.

  6. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 2 years ago

    @Newenglandah

    Totally agree. Contrast Obama with, say, the Green Party. He’s a corporate-friendly centrist, period. I find it hilarious when people think he is a Marxist or socialist — clearly not knowing the definition of either — let alone leftist, when Teddy Roosevelt was far more left than Obama is.

  7. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 2 years ago

    @Doughfoot

    I admit to having mixed feelings about required voting; should we be choosing our leaders through a majority of voters who don’t want to vote, don’t care for voting, and obviously don’t know the issues? It could make it worse than it is now in terms of media-managed elections, because I don’t believe that people will become better informed just because they have to vote.
    Though another innovation I would accept is adding “No opinion” or “none of the above” to the ballot…that could work.

  8. Newenglandah

    Newenglandah said, over 2 years ago

    Let’s see….Conservatives love Somalia because there are no government regulations or taxes, they love Russia because Putin is a “strong” leader, they love Uganda because they persecute gays, but they hate the US because we elected a “Marxist Moslem Kenyan” as our president. So I would agree that it is people like ConserveGov who should leave.

    Which of those three are you heading for, ConserveGov? Bon voyage!

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