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  1. Michyle Glen

    Michyle Glen said, over 1 year ago

    As you said this country is war weary. Our infrastructure is in a mess, We are barely out of a recesion and they are talking about another expensive war, for a people who will spit on us the second Assad is out of power.
    SO why is Obama so gung ho,, he wants to help another
    “Emerging Nation” that does not want to emerge.

  2. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    Those who oppose action in Syria are in effect saying that there should be no response illegal use of weapons of mass destruction. Funny, a few years back we mounted huge war on the suspicion that there might be stockpile of WMDs in Iraq, whereas now we know that the weapons are there because they’ve been used. Anyone who supported the war in Iraq ought to support some kind of response in this situation. (Of course we can then ask “What kind of response?” but that’s another question for another time.) Now if the US makes no response to this use of WMDs, what message gets sent to Iran?

  3. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, over 1 year ago

    I guess if I am still alive in 10 years I will still be against he war in Syria the way I was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam.

  4. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, over 1 year ago

    @lonecat

    Putin said, if the US/UK/France show proof that al-Assad was responsible for the chemical attacks, Russia will vote for a Security Council resolution against the Syrian government rather than vetoing the resolution.


    Nonsense. The US President ALWAYS tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so He doesn’t need to show any proof or evidence, His word is more than enough.


    When the House asked that Bill Clinton be tried by the Senate for lying, the Senate found He was completely innocent, so He had told nothing but the truth. While He was the President of the United States, whatever Clinton said was the absolute truth.


    And that’s US law, so Russia had better learn to live with it. Or else.

  5. Mark

    Mark said, over 1 year ago

    @lonecat

    .That we’ve learned our lesson?

  6. r2varney

    r2varney said, over 1 year ago

    @lonecat

    Those who oppose action in Syria are in effect saying that there should be no response illegal use of weapons of mass destruction.
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    The hypocrisy that the rest of the world is watching is in which countries you will take action against. Block Buster bombs used by Israel are pretty much a weapon of mass destruction as well.. And where was the peep of protest from the US??
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    Of course when you are supplying the bombs it is pretty hard to protest when they are used.

  7. capndunzzl

    capndunzzl said, over 1 year ago

    …too bad D.C. won’t act as fast about domestic gun violence.

  8. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @Michael wme

    Well, I wouldn’t say that the president always tells the truth, but I wouldn’t say that he always lies, either. As for Putin, well, I wouldn’t give him a lot of credit for truth. I’d be very surprised to learn that there were no chemicals used, and I’d be almost as surprised to learn that it was the opposition who used them.
    +
    I’m not arguing for a military strike in Syria. I was making two points: 1. Something should be done. 2. A lot of the opposition to Obama’s plan is hypocritical.
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    But even so, I’m opposed to a military strike in Syria. I don’t think it will do any good, and I don’t see that the proper response to an atrocity is another atrocity. But I do think there should be some response. I’m a pacifist, or as near to that as I can manage. A lot of people say that pacifism doesn’t work. Well, militarism doesn’t work very well, either. But pacificism is not that same as doing nothing. We put a lot of money into figuring how to deal with conflicts violently, why can’t we put equal money into figuring how to deal with conflicts non-violently?

  9. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @Mark

    I wish that were the case. I don’t think so.

  10. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @r2varney

    I’ve opposed the US use of terror and the US sponsorship of terror all my adult life. And not just verbal opposition. Just because the US has done a lot of horrible things, that doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t protest when Assad does, as well.

  11. martens misses all her friends

    martens misses all her friends said, over 1 year ago

    @lonecat

    Maybe what you are talking about here is satyagraha? Nonviolent but nonetheless resistance? I believe ahab mentioned it a few days back. One must be active but nonviolent (basically the methods promoted by Gandhi, among others.

  12. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @martens misses all her friends

    Exactly. Now the key problem for pacifists is the application of nonviolent resistance when you’re getting clobbered by a massive force which doesn’t seem to respond to non-violence. Well, I don’t know the answer, but I do see that violent resistance often doesn’t work. We desperately need to have a discussion about how to avoid getting into these situations.

  13. martens misses all her friends

    martens misses all her friends said, over 1 year ago

    @lonecat

    Harking back to a post by dtroutma a few days ago, the handling of the Haitian coup in the ’90’s was an example of the use of a threat of force in a way that negated the need for the actual use of force.
    US response to Haitian coup

  14. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @martens misses all her friends

    This video got me started on the flouride DMT idea. Look how sincere this girl is, she claims knowledge but is the science any good?
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92qmQFkYILM

  15. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Man proposes, god disposes.

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