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Tom Toles

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  1. PianoGuy24

    PianoGuy24 GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Tom Troll once again trying to keep the brainwashing going.

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, about 3 years ago

    Tommy……It’s free you idiot!
    And don’t give me this “They are too poor to even get to the DMV”!
    Those people don’t seem to have any problem showing an ID to sign up for Welfare and Food Stamps.
    If voting isn’t that important to them, then maybe they shouldn’t.

  3. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    ‘Polite Company’ do not associate with people that are so backward that they can’t prove whether they were born or hatched.
    Democrats will gather these people and transport them past the DMV (not stopping of course) to the Voting Booth and tell them who to vote for. Next, they steer them to a Congressional Lobbyist’s Buffet Table with foods that they have not tasted for 2 years.

  4. Gary McSpook

    Gary McSpook said, about 3 years ago

    @Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Tom Toles brings out the trolls.
    It’s clear that a lot of the “people that are so backward that they can’t prove whether they were born or hatched” in the red states are the PWT to whom the GOP sells it’s bogus bill of goods, getting them to vote against their own interests by thumping the Bible, endorsing “gun sales without IDs” and blaming the economic mess we’re in on labor unions, minority welfare moms and the current administration.
    Congrats, GOP, forever moving forward into the past.

  5. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, about 3 years ago

    Suppose we go the Aussie way: Everybody who’s eligible to vote, votes OR pays a fine for not voting, meaning $50 or less. That would encourage voter turnout, REQUIRE that the eligible voter list be assembled and verified in advance, and lead to a better more functional democracy. Who wouldn’t be happy with that outcome?
    Answer: the gerrymandering, poll taxing, discriminatory, old boy bosses who want to run government out of a back office at the country club.

  6. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, about 3 years ago

    Being able to vote and to buy a gun are both civil rights. Not everyone is eligible to do either. Would everyone on left and right agree that the same degree of identification ought to be enough to entitle you to do either? I am not specifying what type of ID it might be. - At present in this country, it is much easier to legally buy a gun in some places than it is to vote; in other places it is easier to vote than to buy a gun. - Who would agree that (a) to buy a gun or vote in a given jurisdiction you should have to register yourself as a potential buyer / voter, and (b) present verifiable identification at the point of buying / voting? Because you might be buying a gun anywhere in the United States, but can only vote in one, it might be best if the gun buyers were registered nationally, but I suppose it could be done state-by-state or locally just as well, thus allowing different eligibilities in different states to continue. Though buying away from home in that case would be complicated.

    Isn’t it curious that it sometimes seems that the same people who worry about fraudulent voting are not equally worried about fraudulent gun buying? I don’t know that either is actually as big a problem as it is made out to be in some circles. Not much evidence for voter fraud effecting election outcomes. Not much evidence that ineligible gun buyers are getting their guns from people don’t know who they are selling them to, or would be deterred from selling them guns if the law held them (the sellers) responsible for check the buyer’s eligibility.

    As far as I know, all states have always required ID at the polls. Even if that ID is not a document. The question is, what form does the ID take, and how much does that requirement slow down the process, thus creating lines, or otherwise deterring people from voting? Whatever the standard, it ought to be national for national elections. New standards ought to be introduced slowly, so that no one is caught unawares with a a “this would have been enough last time, but today you need this.” There should always be a least one presidential election delay, so that voters can be told “we’ll accept this ID today, just like in the old days, but next time you are going to have to have this other thing. Here are instructions on how to get one of these.”

    Personally, I would go back to the idea that voting is a duty like jury service, and failure to vote be punishable by fine. That’s what you had here in Virginia in 1776, believe it or not. Of course, in those days, all the candidates offered all-you-can drink free rum punch at the polls as well. Voter turnouts of 80-90% were not uncommon. I like the idea of high voter turnout, but getting rid of the rum punch was probably a good idea. No paper ID was required in 1776, but I think you had to swear you were who and what you said you were, and thus voter fraud was a species of perjury.

  7. Mark

    Mark said, about 3 years ago


    “As far as I know” is proof of nothing; I’m 55 and I’ve never had to show an ID to vote.

  8. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, about 3 years ago

    Just get that original birth certificate, original Social Security card, two proofs of residence and pay the $54 to stand in line for 7 hours like we do in Florida.

  9. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, about 3 years ago


    “I’ve never had to show an ID to vote.”

    And you didn’t have to identify yourself? Give them your full name, address, anything? You just walked into the voting booth? I didn’t say you had to “show an ID” in all states, I said you had to ID, that is, identify yourself in all states. That does not necessarily mean you had “show your papers.” We are talking about changing the method by which you ID yourself.

    Texas believes that people will enroll in college courses, and pay the necessary fees to get a college ID card, just to get a phony ID so they can vote as someone else. Why else would Texas declare a college ID card insufficient for voting? — Unless perhaps they suspect that too many college students are “them” and not “us.” But we don’t believe THAT, do we?

  10. ARodney

    ARodney said, about 3 years ago

    It is voter suppression, pure and simple. If it were just “voter ID,” it wouldn’t include banning voting on Sundays, closing a bunch of polling places, banning early registration of teenagers, and making it illegal to keep polls open past the deadline even if there are voting irregularities and long lines of people who haven’t been allowed to vote yet. You can search all you want and not find a case of voter impersonation fraud, but the 120,000 people turned away from the polls in Florida by Rick Scott are real people. Imagine if he’d had North Carolina’s new power to close those polls while people were still in line!

  11. Justice22

    Justice22 said, about 3 years ago


    Try getting a voter ID without a birth certificate. Many, many folks don’t have a birth certificate.

  12. JudeTheObtuse

    JudeTheObtuse GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Read today’s Doonesbury. All the right wing trolls on this page are well described in that comic. Fortunately for humanity, they are a self extinguishing breed.

  13. Justice22

    Justice22 said, about 3 years ago

    I am for a national voter ID which with a swipe of a card would indicate if you are a valid voter, indicate if you have already voted and what election you last voted in. Get the ID requirements out of the hands of local biased legislators.
    I am not suggesting that national legislators are beyond being biased, but let it be the same across the country.

  14. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, about 3 years ago

    No onguard, it’s true. The Florida DMV has required those things to obtain a driver’s license.

    Now the 7 hour wait is Rocky’s fault. One may elect to obtain an appointment – which I do – and the wait is short.

    My last renewal ( and the next isn’t until 2017 LOL) I had a 10am appointment and was out of there by 1030….am.

    I had all the documents (it took about 5 min to go to my files and put them in a folder) and I went in 30 min early.

    So an hour overall not 7. BUT one must Plan Ahead.

  15. Harolynne

    Harolynne GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Getting that original birth certificate can be difficult and expensive. I had one which is how I got my first passport in 1970. But I lost it and I’ve not been able to learn online (I live across the country from my birth state and haven’t been there in decades) how to replace that document.

    At least I was born in a hospital where they issued birth certificates. My mother (now in her 80s) was born at home and it wasn’t until she was in her 60s that she learned that the date she always thought was her birthday was wrong.

    If the state is willing to assist people like my Mom in certifying her birth, then this isn’t voter suppression and if it were easier for me to obtain my birth certificate, I’d also agree. But then I have a good job and am able to pay for it; not true for every North Carolina resident.

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