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  1. saywhatwhat

    saywhatwhat said, over 2 years ago

    @Michael wme

    Those who think the “mainstream media” is “Left”, understand neither left nor the mainstream. There is “media” on the left, but it doesn’t belong to corporate interests and certainly doesn’t include the NY Times. At most they are center right and Joe Nocera is the Opt ed business columnist.

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 2 years ago

    @Michael wme And Rush Limbaugh and other ultra conservative commentators would totally agree with him. Taking one commentator from the left and stating that this opinion is the general opinion of all on the left is just as bad as taking one commentator on the right and stating that all such commentators agree with that right wing commentator. That is not a valid argument.

    In the first place it is not the hydrocarbon fuels themselves that are the real evil here, it is the burning up of them into our limited world atmosphere that is the real evil. Let me attempt to explain.

    There are many valid reasons why such burning up of fossil fuels is bad for the US (or the rest of the world for that matter).

    One: For the US in particular, one such evil is the dependency upon such totally unstable areas of the world as the Middle East, with its fanatical religious idiocy!

    Two: The commentator from the Times was correct in one particular, and that is that these fissile fuels are the very stuff of the existence of our modern civilization. Oil is the major lubricant in every piece of our moving machinery. It is used extensively in the cutting of metals by our machine tools. It is the entire material upon which our plastics industry is based upon. It is used in everything from medicines to food. Get the picture here? This material is far too precious to be just burned up into the atmosphere for energy or transportation!

    Three: When so burned up into the atmosphere it creates a choking pollution that is literally killing missions of our fellow Americans with various lung disorders. And thus is one of the major factors that not only contributes to untold of human misery, but also is a major factor in the heavily rising cost of medical care. If you could tell me that air pollution is good for human beings, (as well as other breathing creatures) then I would withdraw reason three, but if you are honest, then I do not think that you can do that!!

    And all of this is totally without the very real threat of Rapid Global Climate Change brought about by the increase in human generated Greenhouse gases.

    Somewhat sorry about the length of this post, but this is NOT a sound bite issue by any means!!

  3. richardelguru

    richardelguru GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Michael wme
    Are you trying to capture the heady days of Swift’s A Modest Proposal for Preventing the Children of Poor People From Being a Burden to Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Publick?

  4. Paul Harvey

    Paul Harvey said, over 2 years ago

    @Michael wme

    Yup, it’s just too bad that we have had no warming for the last 10+ years. Even with the warmest March ’12 we still did not set any high temp records for Apr, May, Jun, July or Aug.

  5. Paul Harvey

    Paul Harvey said, over 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    The level of CO2 has been higher than now many times over the life of the planet. Check the summer of ’92 coolest for a very, very time, why, Mt Pinatubo went off in the summer of ’91, that was not man-made.

  6. Kylie2112

    Kylie2112 said, over 2 years ago

    @Paul Harvey

    Michael wme is the best troll here. He and NeoConMan, anyways. Pros at ironic prose.

  7. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Best true bumper sticker I ever saw: Where Are We Going, and Why Am I in This Handbasket?

  8. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    And again Paul wants to cherry pick the figures.

  9. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, over 2 years ago

    Politics and science are incompatible in capitalism.

  10. zoidknight

    zoidknight said, over 2 years ago


    Since politics has very little connection to reality or science, no matter that many think or at least are told to think be the left, what is your point?

  11. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, over 2 years ago

    Climate change is real, and whether one believes it is man made or part of a cycle, science shows there are things to be done that can slow and even reverse it. With education, innovation, and experimentation, the USA can lead the world in this effort and create jobs and improve lives while doing so. Droughts effecting over 50% of America’s farmland and the growing severity of storms, tornadoes, etc. are going to continue to have negative effects on the economy even if one doesn’t care to consider the toll it takes on human and animal lives.
    The frog is in the water and the water is getting hot and the frog doesn’t know its in danger.
    Feelin’ froggy,

  12. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Michael wme

    “And that’s the view from the mainstream Left.”

    Er, no. That’s the view from one grossly undereducated journalist, who (as others here are pointing out) is not representative of the Left in general.

  13. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Paul Harvey


    Given that 2010 was the hottest year that we have ever had, in recorded history, and that the Met Office have now debunked (on several occasions) the misrepresentation of their data sets that the Daily Mail used to claim “no warming”….yeah, no.

    The only thing that could be said was that the warming trend over the last 16 years was not as steep as anticipated – not that it didn’t exist.

  14. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 2 years ago

    If humanity is to become the PID controller of the Earth’s climate, then science is going to have to do a lot more than just document what is being perceived as climate change. I’ve read supposedly authoritative articles holding only man as the cause of warming to man contributing only 0.000005% (facetiousness) to warming. We know that the world’s micro-climates effect local climates which effect world climate, but, since each category of climate is variable it causes mutually interactive variations in each climate category. Knowing that they do interact does not give us the knowledge of how they interact. If man makes ill considered decisions based on its lack of knowledge, the law of unintended consequences could follow. This is not weather we’re talking about.

  15. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 2 years ago

    @Michael wme

    Joe Nocera made a stupid mistake in his column, and has retracted it. Fossil fuels do contribute to climate change. If you don’t believe that, you need to deny all measured data and all basic science. No problem for you, of course.

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