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Tom Toles

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  1. Sr NONliberal

    Sr NONliberal said, almost 4 years ago

    Getting close to game over; wish we could have elected someone who knew how to make it work.

  2. cjr53

    cjr53 said, almost 4 years ago

    @Sr NONliberal

    Exactly. Vote the r/w, republicans and tea party out.

  3. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    I posted a few other boards with this question. Other than insane levels of blaming others, what is proposed (in real terms) to reduce the deficit and balance the budget? Please give real numbers and programs, like cut this program, raise taxes more etc. Thank you.

  4. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, almost 4 years ago


    And thank you. Really, since Social Security is pretty much paying for itself, and can be perpetual with relatively slight adjustments (though what adjustments is a problem), and a certain amount of spending is unavoidable to keep the country going, there are really only two elephants in the room: Defense/Security/Intelligence spending and Health Care (Medicare/Medicaid/Etc.) spending. To reduce spending any significant amount, you have to reduce one or both of them significantly. And even they overlap with military medical spending (VA hospitals, etc.). With out huge cuts in those, you can’t balance the budget or pay down the debt at current levels of revenue.

    Get rid of all the waste you want, cut all the little programs that don’t mean much to the majority, but may mean everything to some people, and you will have inflicted a lot of pain, but you won’t solve the problem.

    When the boat is sinking (if that is not too alarmist a metaphor) it won’t help to patch the pinholes when you are ignoring the two large gaping ones!

  5. Cripplious

    Cripplious said, almost 4 years ago


    Who do you vote in? People who will spend us deeper. Id want scrooge in there, A miser would pinch pennies and help save money

  6. cjr53

    cjr53 said, almost 4 years ago


    Look at overall trends, you will find that the r/w-republicans spend, spend, spend, such as two wars not on the books. They leave the cleanup for when a Democrat is back in the White House. All the while shouting “tax and spend” about the Democrats. Also, look at the overall trend on which Americans hold the most wealth and how that has changed since 2000. The rich rich are richer and the middle class and poor have no improvement. That is the one thing shrubster & cheney actually were successful with when they occupied the White House, appointed by SCOTUS. The job creators aren’t creating jobs in America. The rich rich are hoarding money and any jobs they create are in foreign lands where the labor is cheaper and the environment is okay to pollute, that’s cheaper for business. It also shifts the clean up responsibility to others where it should be part of the cost of doing business. Also, check what the house has been doing, making bills that try to undo health care and other silly stuff. They r/w promised “jobs, jobs, jobs” yet have done nothing, they’ve only focused on trying to discredit the President. Is that not treasonous? When the middle class and poor have no earned money to spend, all the rich rich will have no customers. But of course the old “Company Store” model will return with never-ending debt for the lucky few that have a job.

  7. cjr53

    cjr53 said, almost 4 years ago

    I’d also like to see some very tight limits on how much money is gifted to foreign nations, especially Afghanistan. Including bringing our troops home today.

  8. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, almost 4 years ago

    we need to have tax incentives for multi-national companies (american and foreign) to operate factories here. We need to have tax penalties for companies that send jobs abroad and profit here.

  9. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, almost 4 years ago

    Yes yes , let’s look at that.

    We need good paying jobs. From who? Which person is to supply them? What do you want to do? How hard will you work to fulfill the goals of whoever hires you? How many times will you strike for higher wages and better benefits? But really the pertinent question is from who?

    The “rich” need to pay their “fair” share. OK I get it. People that have a bunch of money that they were willing to work hard to get or were fortunate enough to “invest” in other hard workers that made a product that gave them billions, need to step up to the plate. So how do you propose they pony up? By giving that money to the government to divide up as they see fit? While the government efforts to supply food and services to the poor are laudable, it isn’t like a “good paying job”. I have a feeling you know exactly what it is like to live on unemployment. So, again, yes those with resources need to step up to the plate and create good paying jobs. Most of those types (as defined by the government) are small business people. Their thoughts?

    Once again, if you were to take the entire wealth of the top 2% and shoot them in the head (it’s been done just saying) how long would it fund the government as we run it today AND once that wealth is gone where will the next flood of ready cash come from?

    And finally, the very best suggestion you make. End the eternal war around the globe. Of course we would have to have some cooperation from those that hate us so much (our fault) but still.

    OK your personal peeves aside, make some other suggestions.

  10. jonesb

    jonesb said, almost 4 years ago


    You had a chance to vote for one, Ron Paul.

  11. Simon_Jester

    Simon_Jester said, almost 4 years ago

    Since Tetris was developed in Russia during the Soviet era, I’m waiting for some right-winger to show up and cite this cartoon as proof that Toles is a Commie

  12. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, almost 4 years ago

    Let’s not forget, that it was a republican congress that wrote the bills that Clinton signed that produced a “deficit” surplus. No, there was NO balanced budget and while the call to the “War of Terror” was misguided and based on bad intelligence it WAS supported by over 60% of the population and voted on and passed by a near 70% margin in both house and senate. And you may want to re read this as you point that finger on deregulation:

    So why don’t YOU quit the “partisan” politics and start something that will bring forth real change to the government. We are all AMERICANS so come together with some honesty and a spirit of cooperation.

  13. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 4 years ago

    If any body is interested and on in this case I think all Americans should be, when Thomas Jefferson was President he balanced the budget eight years running. Here is a partial list of some of the issues he had to deal with starting Day One:

    Five treaties with different tribes of Indians, a treaty with England. Sailors being taken by England and France for military use and Privateers from all over Europe operating on our East Coast Line. Barbary Pirates(who were Privateers themselves). Europe trying to bring the United States into local conflicts for several different countries including England, France and Spain. This forced Jefferson to improve port protection and doubling the amount of stores kept on hand in case of war. The issues with Europe forced his predecessor President Adams to start building a force of 74 gun ships, this had to be postpone, due to the conflict with Barbary States, (Libya, Tunisia, yeah them again) so a force of smaller ships could be built to operate in the shallow waters of Libya and Tunisia. After the original 74 gun ships were built there was not enough sailors for the U.S. Navy at the time so Americas first Dry Dock had to built.

    The above was just his first term most in the first year of Jefferson Presidency. Other issues that came later was Indians fighting amongst themselves, trade with Spain and North Africa. Arron Burr’s adventure in the wilderness when he went rouge. The rise of Napoleon in France and the Louisiana purchase.

    Plus in those days treaties were not decided like they are today. With no electronic communications they had to give Ambassadors and Indian agents special permission to discuss and decide treaties. So if some one messed up Jefferson got the blame.

    Both Democrats and Republicans are to blame for our current situations. Democrats on Social spending and not having bond drives and a special tax to finance the Wars on the Right. At least the wars are coming to an end for now but the Social Spending is still in full swing. So no one has the right to brag about their side.

  14. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 4 years ago


    How will you bring people home today. Can’t be done even if we just cut and run with a land locked nation with Pakistan on one side and Iran on another we have to fly out. Close to 6 months flying out troops and heavy equipment that is cut and run.

  15. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    I wrote my original comment/question last night and now the world has had 10 hours to respond, and I thank you one and all for addressing the issue as you see it. Without too much surprise, the military really came out as a number one factor, although a couple of vary salient points were made about other expenditures.
    “When the boat is sinking (if that is not too alarmist a metaphor) it won’t help to patch the pinholes when you are ignoring the two large gaping ones!” (Doughfoot)
    “Perhaps, Sir, you are unaware that the USA, and indeed the world, is balanced on a razor’s edge. The only way we will survive this is through a slow and measured stepping back from the brink, which is what Obama and his financial people are doing.” (Dr. C. quoting two separate sentences).
    “The trusted Mechanic” shares the Dr.‘s sentiment with some very relevant points.

    “Defense/Security/Intelligence spending and Health Care (Medicare/Medicaid/Etc.) spending.” Those are the gaping holes in the sinking ship Doughfoot alludes to, and I agree. Dr. C brings up (and I am aware and agree) a significant issue that wanton cutting, austerity, radical fiscal moves, can cause more harm than good. We are on a razor’s edge and I wish our political leaders saw it that way and didn’t address it so casually.
    C. Downs has repeatedly suggested (and again I agree) that before we do wholesale changes in Defense and Medical spending we send out an army of auditors and investigators who have the authority to root out real waste, duplicity, fraud, and redundancy on state and federal levels.

    What I would like to see as a “sincere” effort on the part of the government, An important start would be a spending cap put in place and enforced. A real budget that has transparency is necessary. Obama convened the Simpson – Bowles commission and I applauded him for that, right up to the point when he ignored their findings (as did others of both parties) because there were so many dreaded politically unpopular measures included. These are not a panacea for all our problems, but we have to start the process!

    Oh yes, my standard disclaimer, I am a Libertarian and voted for Gary Johnson in the last election. Very interesting reading by and large from all participants, with a few mud slinging exceptions. Thanks for letting me share.

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