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   harleyquinn said, 24 days ago

   I wonder what renamed buzz word, poll tested, group think they will name it now. I also wonder what target and bad guy will they put in their sites as to have that us vs them mentality.

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   scottfreitas said, 24 days ago

   The Demoncrats are relentless. They will trash our health-care system before 2010,after which they will get their socialist butts thrown out of office on a scale that will make 1994 seem like a mild hiccup by comparison…

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   4uk4ata said, 24 days ago

   Scott, I would love to see an even bigger Democratic majority in 2010 and 2012, if only to read your reactions to it.

   HQ, I think the insurance companies did themselves a bit of a disfavor with that rushed “study” that its own author - Pricewaterhousecoopers - effectively disowned. Maybe they should have sat on their rear ends and be content with getting several million subsidized new customers… but nooo, they decided to go for broke.

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   sjc14850 said, 24 days ago

   Trash our health-care system? The one that’s ranked 37th in the world? The one that has people dying because they can’t afford care, or financially ruined for life? God forbid!

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   richardelguru said, 24 days ago

   Turning the current health-non-caring system into trash would actually improve it—if I write what it currently is this site’s Bowdler-filter would bleeeeep the words from here to bleeeeeping bleeeeep.
   As I see it the Dems biggest problem (apart from the odd wanker like SnottFreeAss) is the difficulty of getting out of the mess that the Bush-idiot and his lying lot got us in to.

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   cdward said, 24 days ago

   ^That and Joe Liebermannn

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   harleyquinn said, 24 days ago

   sjc has swallowed the bs when he says
   “The one that has people dying because they can’t afford care, ”
   Really we are in England where they ration life saving drugs. On this site and else where it has been documented where the health care has been rationed and someone died. It was not here in the USA. It was in countries whose system in which we are trying to become.

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   Justice22 said, 24 days ago

   Harley, Harley, England does not ration healthcare. The example used on the house floor was of a lady who, when diagnosed with cancer had treatment, cancer “cured”. Then a few years later it reappeared. She and her husband asked for a new experimental drug that had not been approved. To get the drug they had to pay approximately $2,000 (equiv.)per month on their own. Try getting an experimental drug through your insurance company. Not going to happen. You won’t be able to buy it on your own either.

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   Jim said, 24 days ago

   Tis the season .

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    HOWGOZIT said, 24 days ago

    Reid and Schmuck Schumer–two peas in a pod. Schumer says on Olbermann he cannot discuss specifics of Reid’s plan–Reid put a muzzle on him.

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    Dmajor said, 24 days ago

    Oh, it’s a coffin! For a minute I thought it was the same refrigerator that Indiana Jones used.

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    harleyquinn said, 24 days ago

    So you are saying that health care will not be rationed? Really? there will be an infinite supply of Doctors, Nurses, and drugs? Justice22 you are swallowing this hook line and sinker.
    You know so much where here in the USA is someone denied care?

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    Magnaut said, 24 days ago

    if at first you don’t succeed lower your standards

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    scottfreitas said, 24 days ago

    Ranked 37th according to a lunatic rating system conjuired up by a bunch of Godless leftists with a socialist agenda.

    How STUPID are you, that you could look around the world and tell yourself there are 36 other countries you’d rather live in because they have better health care? Suuuure…

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    Ken Warren said, 24 days ago

    Scott: Hi, don’t forget about Iceland and Denmark.

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    annamargaret1866 said, 24 days ago

    What annoys me no end is calling it health care. It is not in any way, shape, or form. It’s medical care.

    A few months ago, it was reported that life expectancy here in the good ol’ U S of A had increased a whopping 2 1/2 months.

    With all the tests, drugs, and treatments pushed at us in the last 30 or so years, you’d think our life expectancy would have increased a lot more than a mere 2 1/2 months.

    And then there’s the whole quality of life issue.

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    Justice22 said, 24 days ago

    Harley, It happens all the time. If you are in an accident, usually, no, but if you have a medical condition that is expensive to treat, yes, My sister-in-law with a brain tumor and no insurance for one. She died. My nephew’s kid with a tooth problem for another. Laid off, no insurance,finally got it taken care of with cash. A friend who developed Cancer several years back was turned away from 3 hospitals because he had no insurance. Finally the VA said it was caused by Agent Orange and began treatment after it was too late.

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    Justice22 said, 24 days ago

    Scott, Have you ever traveled outside the U.S.? Some countries are pretty nice. I met a lady in Germany who was staying there with her family after her husband had retired from the military. Said she liked it so much better than New York.

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    motivemagus said, 24 days ago

    No, scott, we’re saying that if so many other countries can deliver better healthcare to ALL their citizens at a better price, we should be able to do at least that well!

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    HabaneroBuck said, 24 days ago

    Nobody has better healthcare in the world than the United States. I don’t even care what kind of propoganda you can pull out, this whole argument is ludicrous. When it comes to emergency life-saving health care, it has been proven time and time again that the United States’ system is more successful than any other system in the world. That is to say, from the point one is diagnosed with something such as cancer to the end of one’s life, you will not get any better care anywhere in the world than the good ole US of A.

    Americans don’t have longer life spans than the rest of the world because of the lifestyles and ethnic diversity of our population. That might not be popular, but it’s demonstrably true. It’s also true that we keep statistics based on infant deaths differently than other systems. On and on it goes, but whenever apples are compared to apples, the US is doing pretty well, and realistically can be called the “best in the world” without fear of contradiction.

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    fritzoid said, 24 days ago

    There’s the question of quality of treatment available, and there’s the question of availability of quality treatment. They’re separate questions. The best doctors in the world using the best equipment in the world and the best medicines in the world can’t help you if you can’t afford to pay for them.

    If you have insurance coverage, you’re still dependent upon some insurance company clerk approving payment for what your doctor recommends. If you DON’T have coverage, you’re screwed. A two-day stay in a hospital can wipe you out, assuming they’ll even ADMIT you without coverage.

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    richardelguru said, 23 days ago

    The US is good at technology, but it’s lousy at caring. Technology is great at heroics (what I think of, probably wrongly, as DrKildareism) but it is expensive and elitist. In the US you get wonderful care if you are wealthy but the bums rush if you are not.
    In other developed countries things are better for everyone. I’ve lived in England, France and the US and I know that the US is by far a worse place to get sick in than either of the others.
    My Father died a year ago in England after seven years of dialysis three times a week, doctors visiting him at his home, and what I feel was excellent CARING care, all necessary drugs and all at no cost to him. The cost being shared by all tax payers comes out at at about 1/2 to 2/3 of what it costs in the US (calculated per head). There is pretty much NOTHING that comes between patient and doctor. For example the other year my daughter while passing through England from Kenya to her home in the US needed medical attention and was seen by the doctor immediately with no questions asked about eligibility (she is a dual citizen, but she sounds American).
    So HabaneroBuck, scottfreitas and your weird lot, go on spouting pseudo-patriotic rubbish in your ignorance and self delusion, it may make you right-wing but doesn’t make you correct.

    I like many things about the US, but sadly when (in a few years) I retire there is no way I’ll stay here. I’ll be off to the land of freedom—free at least from having to worry about health care, and of course free from the likes of HabaneroBuck, scottfreitas and their weird lot. :-)

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    scottfreitas said, 23 days ago

    Oh sure, Richard. I’m really having such a major impact on your life, aren’t I? :/

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    richardelguru said, 23 days ago

    @scott Naa, nothing personal, I just needed something to add to the last sentence. :-)

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    harleyquinn said, 23 days ago

    Justice you are proving my point. the kid with a tooth ach paid cash. well he got it fixed. Really you sister in law died because she had no insurance? nope she died from brain cancer. If in a system that rations health care then maybe she might not got to the point in which she knew what it was. and your friend should have been taken care of at the va in the 1st place but no that is a government run health care.
    Thank you for playing lets blame everyone but your self and the government should take care of me.

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    Ira Nayman said, 22 days ago

    Scott and Harley,

    I’m Canadian. Along with a vast majority of Canadians (usually between 75 and 80 per cent, depending upon the poll), I wouldn’t trade my health care for anything, especially not yours. I had triple bypass surgery; it was timely, and it was paid for by our collective taxes. I didn’t have to deal with insurance companies, and I certainly didn’t have to worry about going bankrupt in order to pay for the operation.

    Americans may have the best doctors and hospitals in the world. You undoubtedly have the best medical researchers. BUT you do not have the best system. I hope neither of you every have a serious ailment; better to learn from argument than experience.

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    DrCanuck said, 22 days ago

    I am in complete agreement with Ira; the Canadian system is superiour. I have lived in both Canada and the US and I speak from experience, not from advertising or biased news reporting. Neither have I any personal stake in whether or not the US reforms its system.