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rnmontgomery said, 4 months ago
So this twit thinks using prisoners to gain info is bogus? How naive can he get, get your liberal head out of the sand.
ssejhill said, 4 months ago
@rnmontgomery
Perhaps you disagree with the international community that signed on to the Geneva Conventions, to which the US was signator.
QuiteDragon said, 4 months ago
@rnmontgomery
If by “using”, you mean torturing, why yes, it is just about useless. Wikipedia’s page on the subject is here: Effectiveness of torture for interrogation
JohnnyDiego said, 4 months ago
@rnmontgomery
I am a Twit with a liberal head and I am offended not by this comic but by you, sir.
packratjohn said, 4 months ago
Every prisoner is used for information, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that. It is the use of torture that is morally wrong and usually useless.
Linguist said, 4 months ago
@rnmontgomery
Please, if you want to be on the “right” side of this discussion, then you must use the PC terminology. We don’t call it torture anymore. It is called " enhanced interrogation ", which doesn’t work any better than old fashioned torture.
Fourcrows said, 4 months ago
@rnmontgomery
It has been shown that torture will cause the victim to reveal whatever the torturer wants to hear to make the torture stop, regardless of the veracity of the information. They may be telling the truth the first 10 sessions, and then lie during the 11th if that is what the interrogators want to hear.
phritzg
said, 4 months ago
Comments from rnmontgomery and his ilk are another form of useless torture for rational people.
Ian Rey
said, 4 months ago
The best information we got from prisoners in custody occurred when agents acted as if they had befriended them and sympathized with them. Information obtained under torture is crap because people will say anything to make the pain stop.
Night-Gaunt49 said, 4 months ago
@rnmontgomery
You are limited in your thoughts here. Torture fails to elicit correct information. Talking to them and treating them as human beings works far better. Those are the facts. Read a book why don’t you?
fritzoid
said, 4 months ago
If you haven’t seen Zero Dark Thirty yet, here’ how it played out (to the best of my recollection):
We see a detainee being subjected to “enhanced interrogation” techniques (there is mention of other detainees, but we see only one in detail), including waterboarding, sleep deprivation, locking in a tiny box, electroshock, and (yes) exposing him naked to the gaze of a woman (it’s a mix of physical and psychological methods; some believe the distiction between the two is major, some minor).
At one point, the CIA has received information that an attack somewhere is imminent, but they don’t have enough details to prepare for it. They try to get these details from the abovementioned detainee, but fail, and he passes out in the process. The attack (on a London bus) occurs. Since the detainee has no contact with outside news, the interrogators TELL him that he broke before he passed out and that he gave them enough information to prevent that attack, and then they use that leverage to get him to fill in some “little details.” If the process is a really intense version of “good cop/bad cop”, it’s the “good cop” who actually gets the information they end up using.
It’s not that they got the key information directly through torure, or even that what he gave them (post-torture) directions to bin Laden’s doorstep. But the information they recieved from a detainee who had been tortured provided a lead which, after a lot of years and in combination with a lot of other intelligence gathered through more conventional means, led them to the Abbottabad compound.
GES ✯ Who said, 4 months ago
I would tell you of your mother, I would tell you what she did,
If I only thought it wouldn’t make you completely flip your lid!
AHHH, BEER wuz good said, 4 months ago
Have any of you posters here had any combat experience ? I have and I have no prob with all means to save my and my comrades lives !
Oh, about the Geneva Con. ? I say " Play by the rules ,or I will play by yours( beheadings ,ieds to kill civies ,car bombings to kill civies,kill politicos who do not agree with you ect ect )
" It is the greatest good for the greatest number of people which is the measure of right or wrong ," Not Spock but Jeremy Bentham !
AHHH, BEER wuz good said, 4 months ago
@GES ✯ Who
Hahaha, go ahead son and just might tell you who your real daddy is! hahahaha
3hourtour
said, 4 months ago
..“Old manwhy won’t you sign the papers?”…