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  1. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago

    You always jail folks with mental illnesses?

  2. Stipple

    Stipple said, 9 months ago

    Some mental illness is not benign and needs to be addressed.
    Jail is always the low information answer as it gets the problem out of the public realm.
    Jail does not help mental illness, invariably it gets worse in lockup.
    But it does stop the immediate problem, and stopping problems is the priority of the police departments.

  3. Jase99

    Jase99 said, 9 months ago

    L.A. woman gets jail time for calling 911 more than 400 times

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woman-calls-911-jail-time-20131223,0,2584567.story#axzz2p9kL1HkU

  4. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago

    @DaSharkie

    I understand the consequences of her actions. But does she?
    Hence my question.
    Do you think there’s malice? Do you not rather think an alternative like psychological counseling is needed instead of imprisonment?


    Your country continues to amaze me.

  5. Jase99

    Jase99 said, 9 months ago

    An LA radio station found and posted one of the woman’s many 911 calls. She calls to complain that no one came out from an earlier call, then tries to cancel the call when the dispatcher tells her someone is on the way.

    https://soundcloud.com/kpcc/911-caller-convicted-for

  6. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago

    @Jase99

    I see from the article you linked us to indicates she has mandatory pschological counseling as well.
    Great.
    Back to my original question: So why imprison someone clearly in need of psychological help?

  7. Jase99

    Jase99 said, 9 months ago

    @omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    The judge may have to follow some kind of minimum sentence guideline in the conviction. He did, at least, require her to seek the psychological counseling as part of the conviction. I hope she takes the opportunity to get the help it seems she needs.

  8. cjr53

    cjr53 said, 9 months ago

    @omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    When convicted of a criminal act, yes. Happens all the time. We can thank uncle ronnie raygun for shutting down mental health facilities effectively shifting the burden to law enforcement, the judicial system and ultimately into jails or prisons; where there is no help for their mental illness.

  9. Kaffekup

    Kaffekup said, 9 months ago

    You mean 911 isn’t a valet service?

  10. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago

    @DaSharkie

    If she truly understood the consequences of her actions, there’d be a higher probability of malice. If there’s no malice, I doubt she understood the consequences of her actions. I just do not understand how imprisonment will benefit her, and the community she lives in.


    Currently I officially reside & work in the United Kingdom.
    If you know of a similar case here, let me know and I shall be similarly appalled.


    I understand that the USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world – Nov. 2009 BBC website


    From the above url/article: “Half of the world’s prison population of about nine million is held in the US, China or Russia.”
    Prison rates in the US are the world’s highest, at 724 people per 100,000. In Russia the rate is 581.


    and from a TAB alongside:


    “England and Wales have the highest per capita prison population in Western Europe – 143 people per 100,000.”

  11. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago

    @ReasonsVentriloquist

    It appears that more are caught 22 in the USA than, say, in the UK
    [143 goes into 724] 5.06 times more.


    Methinks society is fumbling a whole lot.

  12. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago

    @ReasonsVentriloquist

    I don’t understand: What does the vastness of your country have to do with it? Its diversity? How does that affect who has mental illness and who gets incarcerated?
    The British Empire? Atrocities? Huh?
    You are aware I’m not even British, right?
    I think I’ve touched a patriotic raw nerve somewhere. I often see this in your posts to non-Americans. You tend to get quite defensive as regards your country. Fine. Be patriotic. *shrug


    In all countries the prevalence of people suffering from mental illnesses in prisons is much higher than the general population at large.
    However, I quoted Britain’s figures mentioning that it has the highest in Western Europe and it is justifiably criticised for it…but the US’s figures are five times that of the U.K.‘s, ratio-wise. The figures mentioned are per 100 000 people. The total sizes of the populations are therefore irrelevant in this instance.


    Of course you are correct in that many people that are drug users, suffering from mental illnesses and who commit crimes in order to support their addiction, are imprisoned; probably their sentencing will reflect that in mitigation. But in this particular case, I really do not see how it is in any way justified or at all beneficial to anyone in imprisoning her. The fact remains, the difference in US’s incarceration rate and its readiness to imprison, vastly out-numbers those in Western Europe. One can therefore surmise it is more likely to imprison more people with mental illnesses than other countries. Five times more than Western Europe’s largest: UK.


    By the way, my last statement in my previous comment was meant as a general statement for us all, in any country.


    Methinks society is fumbling a whole lot.

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