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  1. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 4 years ago

    LIVESTRONG is a great organization. Painting it with the same brush as its founder does no one honor and ignores the enormous good it has done and the millions who have benefited from it.
    If you’ve made resolutions to improve your health this year, this is a great resource.

  2. jonesb

    jonesb said, almost 4 years ago

    “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”

  3. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 4 years ago


    Second time I’ve seen you post this quote.
    Are you suggesting we give Mr. Armstrong a pass? I was one of his biggest defenders until recently, but the overwhelming evidence is that he set a terrible example for young athletes by using PEDs, lied under oath to officials of his sport, took unfair advantage of honest riders, and, if his teammates are to believed, bullied them into doing the same.
    I love the quote you are using and use it myself, but I don’t see its relevance when he is actively admitting he did use PEDs and techniques.
    Please explain.

  4. lisapaloma13

    lisapaloma13 said, almost 4 years ago

    @Respectful Troll

    Don’t hold your breath, C.

  5. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, almost 4 years ago

    I don’t understand whats so bad about performance enhancing drugs. what hypocrites we all are. This country and world lives on pharmaceuticals, there’s nothing that a little pill won’t solve. and we love seeing our superheros perform superfeats. I coach and compete at a professional level in a specific sport. i went semi-pro last season (meaning i compete with the pro’s but i don’t make 100 percent of my income from it). the big difference i see between the pro’s and the amateurs, is the pros cheat. they cheat out in the open. they cheat shamelssly and they don’t make good on their cheating until they’re caught
    this is what the world has come to. I do not cheat, and it cost me a few places this season, but i still had an impressive finish. I will not cheat this season, but i already have strategies to get me ahead of some of the cheaters.
    and i am already satisfied with how i did without cheating.
    it’s a huge win for me to beat many of these pro’s honestly. they spend so much time and focus cheating, they lose sight of the game.

  6. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 4 years ago


    Danny, your name suggests a lack of objectivity to this topic. Is that six pack beer, or abs?
    If you allow PEDs you remove the base lines set by the original Olympians of Greece. In so many cases, it has not been mere strength/dexterity/talent that took an athlete to new limits, but spirit. When you let drugs, ceramic legs, bionic arms, or whatever enhancing method, you take the humanity out of the sport. Whether or not you believe in "spirits or souls, you must believe in strength of will.
    The common sense reasons are good too.
    Teens seeking to establish their ‘competitive edge’ and the lengths to which they will feel compelled to go in order to buy the best enhancement.
    The known and unknown health risks to young athletes starting out, ex athletes over 60, and everyplace in between.
    The world wide use of pharmaceuticals for anything other than medical necessity is “financially necessary.” Too many jobs rest on having “forever pills” to deal with chronic probs that never go away. They don’t tell you how many of those pills can be replaced by diet and, this is true, being happier.
    It’s tiresome to hear people say, "You might as well “do it”, everybody else does."
    That’s an excuse to do nothing and/or do the same thing. It perpetuates the problem.
    Your confusion on the ethics/morality of this issue makes me feel the Tour de France judges should review the races, and whoever they believe won the race without steroids should get the trophies retroactively.

  7. hippogriff

    hippogriff said, almost 4 years ago

    Role-playing gamers have had problems with corporate media’s abbreviating rocket-propelled grenades. Now breath mint manufacturers are being confused with performance-enhancing drugs!

  8. Kellie

    Kellie said, almost 4 years ago

    The worst part is – he called a lot of honest people liars – even taking them to court and ruining their reputation – just to maintain his lie. He’s not a Hero – he’s a zero.

  9. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, almost 4 years ago

    to answer your first question, the “sixpack” refers to neither my abs (they were 8pack at the time of the sixpack), nor a propensity for drinking alcohol (which i do not do – never aquired the taste for it). It is a monniker i picked up in high school for a car i drove and raced (440 Sixpack R/T Challenger).

    you put up a lot of reasons there, but people (and kids) take drugs, and have sex and do all kinds of other things humans do and have always done.

    I am NOT confused about morality or the ethics of the situation.

    if people damage themselves they suffer the consequences. Sports figures don’t ask to be role models and why is the behaviour of people who watch them their problem anyway?
    Your example of medicine is somewhat flawed as well. In an ideal world doctors would prescribe medicine because it’s appropriate. Now they prescribe medicine OFTEN because they get “free samples” or some kind of promotion from the pharma company, to make patients happy and keep them coming back for more.

    back to role models though, people WANT to see the steroided monsters do their thing and they pay BIG BUCKS (and the monsters are paid big bucks) to do so.

    it defacto, is part of the game. If you’re not doing it, you can’t win it. And to quote general patton, “americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser”.

    it seems to me that the american thing to do would be for the sports figures to ENDORSE steroid use, particularly specific brands. Imagine what that would do for the economy?

  10. Pearl Deans

    Pearl Deans GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    Time to rethink the whole “performance enhancing” deal. Why shouldn’t an athlete be allowed to use his own oxygen enriched blood to enhance his performance? Don’t well funded teams have an advantage over poorer teams? I really don’t care if Armstrong won by taking banned drugs. But the lengths he went to in keeping whistle blowers quiet is scary—the dude was ruthless. I think he deserves his seven Tour de France wins. But he should have the grace to quietly retire and count his blessings.

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