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   capndunzzl said, 8 months ago

   …2 out of 3?!
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   INGSOC said, 8 months ago

   She’s ready to start swinging her rolling pin around..
   
   
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   Dr Dave said, 8 months ago

   This will not end well…
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   Zin Rosenblum said, 8 months ago

   May your troubles be less and your blessing be more.
   And nothing but happiness Come through your door.
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   Wolf Emperor said, 8 months ago

   They removed the “obey” from the bride’s part of the liturgy and added it to the groom’s part. JK.
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   phritzg said, 8 months ago

   He also could have moved to divide the question.
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   moesay said, 8 months ago

   My vow, my call…
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   miqq1234 said, 8 months ago

   …..what!….“love”…that’s a relative term….“honor”…ok meaning respect…i understand that one….“obey”…that ain’t gonna happen..yes….binding contracts do give me the heebee jeebees….the marriage contract should read…“love, honor and respect” temporarily"
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   rowena28 said, 8 months ago

   No-one in their right mind says “obey”.
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    Nabuquduriuzhur said, 8 months ago

    re: rowena
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    Oh?
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    When I work for an employer, I place myself under his/her authority. But if that employer does something illegal, or immoral, or dishonest, I leave.
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    Indeed, having had to watch most women of my generation become a slave to sex, drugs, alcohol, and parties as a direct result of feminist training, I have no respect for the modern variant of feminism. Five women I knew became porn stars because of the “I do whatever I want to whomever I want and I demand no responsibility” mentality.
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    One of the major reasons that women cannot stay married is that they spend so much effort undermining their husband. There is no organization that exists that can function without someone to make the final decision on matters.
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    Marriage is a partnership, but it must have a final say or it won’t work. It’s not slavery by any stretch of the imagination. It’s the difference between operations and logistics. Every organization has the people who do things, and the people who make doing things possible.
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    Both are honorable. A key idea of feminism is: if I can’t have the top spot, I’ll destroy the entire organization. We see it in marriage, in business, and in government.
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    The base idea of 1960s+ feminism is personal caprice with no responsibilities. I want what I want, and I don’t care about anyone else. And we’ve seen how well that’s worked. The culture is in meltdown because of that. 50+ million kids are dead because of it.
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    Most, like me, are in logistics. We provide things. We permit the operations to take place by providing what’s needed. We don’t run the show and we don’t really want to, either. Having been a supervisor, I dislike it. Conversely, most women in marriage or government that I’ve observed want to be the supervisor so they can lord it over others, but want to avoid any responsibility. They don’t take the responsibilities seriously. I don’t respect that.
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    exoticdoc2 said, 8 months ago

    Backward. Back when they used those vows that part was asked of the woman.
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    miqq1234 said, 7 months ago

    interesting dissertation nab…“marriage is a partnership + other comments”…well said
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    rowena28 said, 7 months ago

    @Nabuquduriuzhur

    I can’t believe you are seriously equating a marriage to a business relationship between an employer & employees. The idea that the husband should consider the wife’s wishes but have the final say in everything is appallingly sexist. The husband is not the employer or boss of his wife, nor is he the head of the household. Nor does he have any say over what his wife reads or does or says or anything else. She is an equal, not a subordinate.

    Equality in marriage (as in all other aspects of life) is not an abdication of personal responsibility nor capricious. On the contrary.

    There is no justification for the belief that, when a couple are making major decisions such as whether to move house or which school to choose for a child, the man should have the final say. Marriage is not a hierarchy like a bureaucracy. There is no supervisor, no underlings.

    You are so determined that one spouse has to be the boss in the marriage but I bet you’d object vociferously to anyone who said it should be the wife. So, it’s not really a matter of practicality for you; it’s sexism.
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