The Elderberries by Corey Pandolph and Phil Frank and Joe Troise

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  1. nighthawks

    nighthawks GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    yes, and some felons go directly to jail without passing GO and without getting their 200 dollars.
    Life is hell in the slammer

  2. pabrunner

    pabrunner said, over 2 years ago

    No one has EVER suggested putting the money of people already recieving SSI benefits into private account. Younger than 55 would have the OPTION of putting a percentage of their SSI payments (i.e. their money) into a private account where it would have a very good chance of earning a better return.

  3. route66paul

    route66paul said, over 2 years ago

    They might not collect their 200 dollar welfare check, but they have already squirrelled away many times that for themselves and their cronies.

  4. ellisaana

    ellisaana GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @route66paul

    SSI benefits are not welfare. It is money taken out in taxes when the recipients were younger and working.

  5. Neo Blakkrstal

    Neo Blakkrstal said, over 2 years ago

    @ellisaana

    That is a fallacy. The money taken out of our checks today is paying to support those that are drawing social security today. It is expected that the younger generation will take their turn paying into the system to take care of those who are doing so right now. However, the system cannot continue to stand under its present operation. As more and more people live longer and longer there will not be a sufficient number of people young and working to support those who are elderly and retired and the system will fail. This is why some kind of reform is needed. At least by allowing those that are young and working to take part of our salary and invest it elsewhere we stand a fighting chance at being able to retire because, quite frankly, there isn’t going to be any Social Security for us.

  6. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, over 2 years ago

    @pabrunner

    True the wanted to put it in the Stock Market. Gambling is a fools game, or a professionals’.

  7. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, over 2 years ago

    @Neo Blakkrstal

    The only reason why there won’t be any Social Security is that the oligarchs would have stolen it.

  8. ellisaana

    ellisaana GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Neo Blakkrstal

    My point was simply that Social Security is NOT the same thing as Welfare. Social Security was designed to support a working population as it retires.

    It should not confused with Welfare payments given to those who may never have worked.

    The arguments for or against Welfare payments are a different discussion altogether.

    I do understand how social security was designed to work and why it can ultimately fail.

    I also agree that some reform to Social Security may be needed.
    Increasing the age to qualify for benefits can work provided employers stop discrimating against older workers.

    As it is now, employers tend to dump older workers as they approach Social Security retirement age.

    I worked and paid into the system for 45 years and would still be working if I had not been arbitrarily “downsized.” and forced to early retire at age 61. Since then, I have not been able to find a comparable job.
    (I have my savings and a tiny sustenance pension. I prefer not to collect SS benefits until I reach full retirement age.)

    I know the money I paid into social security was used to pay for previous recipients’ benefits. (Congress also raided the fund and used some of that money for other purposes.)

    It is true that more and more people are living longer and longer. But, it is also true that the population has grown exponentially since I joined the workforce.

    Young and working people have always been allowed to take part of their salary and invest it. The option of 401K plans have been available for years. The truth is, most young workers don’t take advantage those plans.

    Another thing going against younger workers is their tendency to move from job to job rather than staying in lifelong employment. This is not entirely their fault, but it does affect their ability to participate in 401K and those few existing pension plans Once again, this is another discussion.

    Social Security may not fail if: Congress stops raiding it AND the working population continues to grow enough to offset the retiring population.

    The system will definitely fail if younger workers are allowed to "opt out.

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