Ted Rall by Ted Rall

Ted Rall

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  1. Cinci Steve

    Cinci Steve said, almost 3 years ago

    “This is my pledge to you: If you make less than 250k a year, you will not pay one penny more in any form of taxes”.
    Looks like Barry considers anybody not on welfare as rich.


  2. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, almost 3 years ago

    Ten years ago, taxes were cut under the Bush, Jr administration on everyone with a taxable income of more than $283,150. For reasons that escape me, the cuts were only for 10 years, then rates reverted to what they had been (39%) back in the dark days of President Clinton.

    The fiscal cliff law says that rates will not return to 39% except for those earning more than $400,000 if single or $450,000 if married (or, as Mr Rall says, unmarried couples earning more than $800,000).

    This is not a tax cut for anyone, it’s a tax increase for everyone. Those earning less than $800,000 will have an increase in their FICA and Medicare taxes. Even former candidate Romney will see his taxes increase from 15% to 20%, unless he can take advantage of some formerly unnecessary loopholes (those loopholes cost a lot of money, so they only make sense for those subject to tax rates higher than 15%).

    It will, as Prof Krugman says, actually take a minuscule amount of money from the very wealthy, nothing they’ll really miss, but it’s a symbol.

  3. Sr NONliberal

    Sr NONliberal said, almost 3 years ago

    @Michael wme

    But we need more than symbols. If it is symbolism that you want, lets flat tax everyone so that we all start to feel how crazy it is that medicare is crushing our budget and killing our ability to move out of this fiscal spiral of death.since no one can stomach reform of medicare & social security, than we should raise EVERYONEs rate to make sure it is fully funded…

  4. Bilword

    Bilword said, almost 3 years ago

    It’s “F” up

  5. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, almost 3 years ago

    What GreggW said. Except I don’t think either party cares as much about the deficit as they claim. It’s just leverage for their other schemes and little more.

  6. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    “In Late December 2010, The Democrat Controlled House and Senate Voted ‘Yes’ to extend these same Tax Cuts, and Obama did not have the Courage to Veto this Bill passed by his own Party.”

    You keep bringing that up. Each time you do, someone has explained the circumstances leading to it. You just plain don’t care. You see one little factoid about a group you blindly hate and you like posting regardless of the facts surrounding it.

  7. uh-oh

    uh-oh said, almost 3 years ago

    All bow to the middle class, where pandering is expected.

  8. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, almost 3 years ago

    @Michael wme

    Raising taxes is symbolism, and it’s harmful symbolism.

  9. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, almost 3 years ago

    Helping the poor isn’t the aim here. Punishing the rich is.

  10. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    I hate the fact that we are drawing lines to distinguish groups when it comes to taxes. Whether you do it by percentage or by flat fee you are still using the tax code to treat one group differently from others.

    My wife and I are American citizens. We have invested heavily in our futures when we were young and have done very well for ourselves. Instead of being able to use the fruits of our labor to pay for our kids college tuition (which we can’t deduct), or to provide other opportunities for them, we are expected to pay more taxes … because we can and because a lot of people out there like all there guberment benefits but don’t want to pay for them.

    How in the world is that fair?

    I’ll accept a percentage but I would like very much to be treated like every other citizen when it comes to taxes.

  11. Ted Rall

    Ted Rall GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Actually, the top 1% should pay 99% of the taxes. After all, they get 99% of the benefits of living in the United States of America. If I call my congressman or the president, do you think that he will take my call? if a 1%er calls, it’s a very different matter.

  12. Ted Rall

    Ted Rall GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Actually, anyone who earns over $343,000 a year is in the top 1%. The Obama/Republican plan limits tax increases not including the payroll tax increase on Social Security to people earning over $400,000 a year as individuals. In other words, it’s not the top 2%, as Obama said, but it is the top one half of one percent.

  13. Ted Rall

    Ted Rall GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    Man, I only wish you were right. Nothing would be more satisfying than to watch the rich get punished. Lord knows they haven’t coming.

  14. Ted Rall

    Ted Rall GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    @Mephistopheles You should actually be pretty happy about Obama’s deal, since college tuition is now going to be tax-deductible. At least one of your complaint has been addressed. However, the reason that it is fair to help people who are receiving welfare and other benefits even though you yourself are not receiving them is because we live in a collective society in which is mutually advantageous to pull together to help one another. I am willing to bet, that wherever you live, you receive some sort of government benefit either directly or indirectly that is subsidized by for example people who live in another part of the country will never ever get to benefit from the same thing you are receiving. That’s how society works. Everyone in every other country on earth understands that.

  15. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    @Ted Rall – I beg to differ. I’ve been paying for my daughter’s tuition for 3 years and only one of those years was I able to deduct her tuition. Look closely at the tax code and you will see that it phases out as you get above $100K.

    I agree that I receive the benefits of Roads, Schools, Hospitals, etc. (Government services) and I’m all for collectively paying for those. I’m not so much in favor of paying deadbeats to sit on their couch and complain that the job market just isn’t fair. I’m not in favor of housing subsidies for people who think that they need 3 game consoles and a big screen television in their project home.

    I do understand how government and society work. What I am decrying is a system that looks at me as a cash cow because I have invested in my future, saved agressively, and lived within my means. All the while i have to listen to the whines of people who don’t pay for the government complain that I’m not paying my fair share. If you are paying payroll taxes (Medicare and Medicaid) you can call that an insurance policy because you will be taking that money back out later but you can’t really call it paying to support the government.

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