Ted Rall by Ted Rall

Ted Rall

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  1. bob-lezeb

    bob-lezeb said, about 3 years ago

    I was just commenting on the Oliphant editorial as to the similarity between what is happening with the Non-violent OWS protest and the 1969 Police riot’s in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention, which of note were initiated by the then Democratic Governor of Chicago, Richard Daly. An old French proverb notes: The more things change the more they are the same. To keep in mind is that both Gandhi and King Jr. caused change to happen, each in their respective Countries, as may the OWS eventually do here in the U.S. If they do generate change, the pro and con merits of any changes, like Gandhi’s and King’s, will be a point of debate for the generations.

  2. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, about 3 years ago

    The European mercantile empires required their colonies to sell all their raw materials to the Imperial power (at below market prices) and to buy all their finished products from the imperial power (at above market prices). And the British and French empires covered much of Asia and Africa. President Wilson demanded that they free their colonies (to trade with the US), but got nowhere. Roosevelt demanded the same (but died). But, Britain and France numbered among the losers of WWII, so Truman demanded and got freedom for South Asia. Most of which (i.e., India) aligned with the USSR. Best laid plans and all that.


    Without Truman, Britain would probably still have the Raj. They were prepared to imprison or kill the non-violent protesters, and knew how to kill (with WMD) the violent protesters.


    The only way OWS or STM can possibly work is with the support of someone stronger than Wall Street and their backers.


    And there’s only one of those, and they’re trying to copy Wall Street, not dismantle it. (Today’s New York Times did say that Europe is hopelessly in hock, unable to pay, and only one place has the money to buy up all the notes. If the Times is right, and the purchasers demand compensation, then what used to be the Eiffel Tower might soon be the Hu Jin Ta.)

  3. lonecat

    lonecat said, about 3 years ago

    If I get this right, it seems kind of silly. Is Rall suggesting that they shouldn’t be non-violent? If he thinks it’s a bad thing for liberals to espouse non-violence (though I never noticed that they do), then is he saying the it would be a good thing for non-liberals to espouse violence? Maybe I’m confused, but this seems not well thought out.

  4. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, about 3 years ago

    There’s already been violence in NYC at the OWS demonstrations with over 20 cops being injured. Let me know if this makes any of the alphabet networks.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nypd_sergrants_threaten_to_sue_wall_4mc8KMbGt8DAIkkXbSQeMI

  5. Lavocat

    Lavocat said, about 3 years ago

    When has REAL change ever come about in any human system without extreme violence? Answer me that. Violence is ALWAYS the answer. It just happens not to be the BEST answer. But it is always the answer.

  6. itisme

    itisme GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    @churchillwasright

    Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS), American Broadcasting Company (ABC), National Broadcasting Company (NBC).
    There, now you know what the letters stand for so you can stop just calling them the “alphabet” networks.

  7. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, about 3 years ago

    @itisme

    My B.A was in Mass Communications, but thanks just the same.

  8. Anarcissie

    Anarcissie said, about 3 years ago

    Actually, the strip seems a bit behind the times. Unnecessary use of force by the police against innocent protesters put OWS into the mainstream media, and now the Oakland cops, by fracturing a veteran’s skull, have managed to swing a large segment of the public behind the Occupations. Times have changed since the recording video camera was developed.

    See also http://www.theawl.com/2011/10/the-livestream-ended-how-i-got-off-my-computer-and-into-the-streets-at-occupy-oakland (http://tinyurl.com/3eubraw). Stuff is really happening, which the use of force would inevitably thrust back into the same hopeless pit we were in before September 17th.

  9. Sr NONliberal

    Sr NONliberal said, about 3 years ago

    @itisme

    Itisme, you addressed one part of Churchies comment, what about the rest? Tell, us, what about the cops that got injured?

  10. ScullyUFO

    ScullyUFO said, about 3 years ago

    @Michael wme

    I optimistically disagree with you. Every social change starts small. OWS is not against wealth; it is against greed, disparity, and exploitation. No civilization where those are the paramount values has yet survived.

  11. ScullyUFO

    ScullyUFO said, about 3 years ago

    @bob-lezeb

    I agree. I continue to advise: wait to see what happens at the national conventions next summer.

  12. kylegann

    kylegann said, about 3 years ago

    I appreciate Rall’s point, but we do live in a police state. Violence from OWS will only bring down quickly escalating violence from the police, who are itching to beat up some “dirty hippies.” There’s no possible way to win or even make a dent on that level. I’m proud of OWS’s ingenuity in the creative ways they’ve found to fight back so far.

  13. Patrick JB Flynn

    Patrick JB Flynn GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    It’s all about core values. The Occupy movement is dedicated by and large to non-violence as that is the only way they can gain favor in this struggle. That is not to suggest that a movement as inclusive as this will not have a few miscreants amongst them. On the other hand, the police (as representatives of the state) as well as the Wall Street marketeers have violence at their core, economic and/or physical.

  14. Bill_Clay

    Bill_Clay said, about 3 years ago

    George Washington defeated the British troops with non-violent protest, right?

  15. halfabug

    halfabug said, about 3 years ago

    Al OW wants is TV coverage. To get a message out that they don’t even know. they admi it freely about the coverage.

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