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   Impeach_Bush said, about 1 year ago

   Get it right, Ted! Sarah Barracuda only won Miss Congeniality, she was never Miss Alaska. An African-American won Miss Alaska that year, which is outstanding considering that persons of color only make up 5% of the state’s population. Perhaps that incident is what caused Sarah to develop
   her aversion to Affirmative Action?

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   ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

   “Perhaps that incident is what caused Sarah to develop
   her aversion to Affirmative Action?”

   That has got to be the most ridiculous assumption I’ve heard all month.

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   turdraker said, about 1 year ago

   Frank Herbert wrote in Dune that the first step to avoiding a trap is knowing of its existence. As FUBAR as things will be when Büsh leaves office, electing Lincoln, Roosevelt, Jefferson and Washington put together wouldn’t be enough to straighten things out. Nice setup, boys.

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   ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

   “electing Lincoln, Roosevelt, Jefferson and Washington put together wouldn’t be enough to straighten things out.”

   You underestimate how great this country truly is. We’ve been thought FAR worse and have always come out on top.

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   turdraker said, about 1 year ago

   Hey Bob,
   Continuing from yesterday: “The five U.S. Army brigades committed to Iraq as part of the surge were 2nd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division: Deployed to Baghdad, January 2007
   4th Brigade, 1st Infantry Division: Deployed to Baghdad, February 2007
   3rd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division: Deployed to southern Baghdad Belts, March 2007
   4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division: Deployed to Diyala province, April 2007
   2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division: Deployed to the southeast of Baghdad, May 2007
   This brought the number of U.S. brigades in Iraq from 15 to 20. Additionally, 4,000 Marines in Al Anbar had their tour extended.”
   Al-Anbar did not receive any new troops as a result of the “surge”. The Awakening Councils, financed by the US taxpayer, and the dispersement of Shi’a out of Al-Anbar, contributed more to the lull than show of force. And as for your assertion that massive taxes would be needed to finance UHC, we could have had all that and more by skipping out on a needless $700 billion war in 2003. Thank God the Chinese haven’t pulled the paper we sold them yet. When they do, explain to your great-grandchildren why they’re still paying your taxes in 2100.

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   ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

   Violence levels after the surge fell as much as 60% in Iraq. This is directly related to the “Sunni Awakening” because the increased security of the country gave the Iraqis the confidence to fight Al-Queda and ally with the US instead. Even Obama has admitted this, why can’t you? It should be a good thing we are winning this war regardless of how you feel about it being started no?

   We weren’t in a war during the Clinton years and Hillary specifically said she wanted Universal Health Care…yet it never happened. Every country that has this system is taxed close to 50% of their income. Again, I ask you…how would raising taxes in a recession help the economy?

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   turdraker said, about 1 year ago

   IF by defining winning you mean propping up a Shia client state of Iran, yea team! Nevertheless you didn’t address the cost of a war which has to be paid for by SOMEBODY. Forget economics, this is simple thermodynamics. This is the first prolonged war for which no taxes were increased, they were cut for oil companies, and now we need stimulus out the wazoo (“We are all Keynesians now!”) because refinancing debt is the only leg left under our financial foundation. The interest on the national note (something “conservatives” used to obsess over) is now about equal to the Pentagon budget. I hate paying taxes too but I’d at least like to think SOMETHING is being done with my money. Now that Fannie/Freddie are in government receivership, the debt has essentially doubled overnight (it took Reagan a whole term to do that!), and now we get to fork it over to cover the losses of great folks like the Chinese central bank, holding over $300 billion of the GSE’s securitized obligations alone. As for taxes rising because of UHC, going in hock for the rest of your illness-shortened life for being underinsured is simply a tax by any other name. Six o’ one… I’ll take a healthier (financially and medically) nation over a sick foreign policy any day.

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   Impeach_Bush said, about 1 year ago

   “That has got to be the most ridiculous assumption I’ve heard all month.”

   You don’t get out much, do you?

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   HUMPHRIES said, about 1 year ago

   CB: Say What ???

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    ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

    “IF by defining winning you mean propping up a Shia client state of Iran”

    The vast majority of Iraqis are Sunni. You and McCain have a lot more in common then you think.

    “Nevertheless you didn’t address the cost of a war which has to be paid for by SOMEBODY”

    I never addressed the cost because we were talking about the surge working or not (which it did.) You’re all over the place stay focused on what were intially talking about.

    “As for taxes rising because of UHC, going in hock for the rest of your illness-shortened life for being underinsured is simply a tax by any other name”

    I understand your reasoning for WHY you think we should have UHC but the question I asked you was how would raising taxes help the economy?

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    ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

    “That has got to be the most ridiculous assumption I’ve heard all month.”

    “You don’t get out much, do you?”

    Your insinuation that Palin is against Affirmative action because she’s jealous of an African American woman that won the Miss Alaska crown instead of her is entirely ridiculous and is in fact the most so of all the things people are saying about Sarah Palin. Not too mention it has a touch of race baiting in it.

    I completely stand by my comment.

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    ottopilot said, about 1 year ago

    Hey ConservativeBob - I used to be a conservative too, but it has become increasingly difficult (almost impossible) to assuage my doubts when I consider what an obvious and spectacular failure Bush has been and the percentage of moronic blow-hards who identify themselves as conservative.

    Religions:
    Muslim 97% (Shi’a 60%-65%, Sunni 32%-37%), Christian or other 3%
    (CIA World Factbook - Iraq)

    You don’t know what you’re talking about. You are an embarrassment. Please s.t.f.u.

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    Impeach_Bush said, about 1 year ago

    “The vast majority of Iraqis are Sunni.”

    Your lack of knowledge of Iraq is staggering. Sunnis are the minority group of Iraq. Please stay out of the conversation if you don’t understand the topic.

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    lalas said, about 1 year ago

    Since the topic switched to UHC… I don’t think the right realizes that uninsured people cost tons of money anyway, usually at the county level as they show up at the county ER and then can’t pay. Well… the budget then comes out of your property taxes and any other local taxation.

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    ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

    I’m sorry I was thinking about Al-Anbar which IS majority Sunni. (Since we were talking about the surge and it’s effect on that area) I was wrong in saying Iraq is majority Sunni and I admit that. Sometimes people get things mixed up and I can’t defend it. Still your comment about Iraq becoming a client state of Iran is ridiculous since the Iraqis and Iranians have a long standing hostility toward each other going back to their war against each other in the 80’s.

    I also didn’t hear anything about the Democrats not instituting UHC when the had the chance point I made…curious. Or on the race baiting comment that impeach bush made…also curious. I’m also still waiting on your answers for how rasing taxes when the economy is bad will help the economy as well. In fact this is the only time you have commented back to me and only because I made a mistake. What about the previous comment on the other Rall cartoon I made?

    As for the labels “embarrassment” and telling me to stfu, I think you need to calm down just a bit and not be so hysterical. Please also stop this “I used to be a conservative” talk since that is clearly a lie. No Conservative would support one of the most Liberal senators the country has had in a long time just because of Bushs’ mistakes.

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    ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

    The topic wasn’t switched to UHC, lalas. turdraker was continuing a conversation we were having from another comic where UHC was one of the topics.

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    Tindog "Inland Ran F... said, about 1 year ago

    Hey at least fraging incidents are down sense Vietnam.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=68821&sectionid=351020201

    You see things are much better now as apposed to when Nixon was in office! They’re simply committing mass suicides instead of slaying their Superior officers.

    40 years of progress!!! All hail our glorious government!

    sieg heil!!!! sieg heil!!!! sieg heil!!!!

    Oh and one other thing wile I’m off topic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBjKww8C0J0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpEqln5EdQ

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    Impeach_Bush said, about 1 year ago

    “Still your comment about Iraq becoming a client state of Iran is ridiculous since the Iraqis and Iranians have a long standing hostility toward each other going back to their war against each other in the 80’s.”

    Again, you show a lack of understanding about Iraq. The only hostility between Iraq and Iran was that Iraq formerly was ruled by Saddam Hussein, a Sunni who was hostile to the Shi’a led Iran. Now that we’ve put the Shi’a in charge of Iraq, they’re free to reunite with their Shi’a brethren in Iran. Which is why Bush Sr. didn’t topple Hussein after the first Gulf War.

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    lalas said, about 1 year ago

    Nonetheless Bob, my point still stands.

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    Impeach_Bush said, about 1 year ago

    And to get back to Miss Congeniality, Palin is obviously a Hail Mary pass on McCain’s part. However, occasionally those passes get caught and win the game. I will again repeat my belief that Obama set himself up for this loss by not taking Hillary Clinton as his running mate.

    Of course, neither one of them would have preferred it. But that’s where the phrase “politics makes strange bedfellows” comes from.

    McCain took advantage of Obama’s blunder and and is now rubbing his nose in it. Obama can’t even give a sound bite in an interview without being accused of insulting Miss Congeniality!

    Obama may end up being 2008’s John Kerry. The man who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Oh well, the Clinton vs. Palin election in 2012 should be interesting.

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    ConservativeBob said, about 1 year ago

    “Now that we’ve put the Shi’a in charge of Iraq, they’re free to reunite with their Shi’a brethren in Iran”

    Who do you think was fighting the Iranians if not the Shia Iraqis that made up the majority of the Iraqi military? There is in fact, still a lot of hostility between the countries and there always has been historically. By thinking that just because they are the same religion that they couldn’t be hostile to each other is to be ignorant of nationalism and the fact that Iranians are not Arabs they are Persians. The Persians have a strong resentment toward Arabs for conquering their country and suppressing their culture for centuries.