Jack cites the National Review wing-nut zine as “proof” of voter fraud, is refuted with facts, and Echo jumps in with a schoolyard argument along the lines of “oh yeah, well what about Monica Lewinksi!?”.Been working long hours all week, but things haven’t changed much on these boards..Thank you Mechanic and Martens, for continuing the reasoned refutations of the knee-jerk right-wing talking points. Most won’t believe the truth (backed up with reason, civility, and empirical data) for various reasons – but I believe that,foremost among those reasons is they actually have a need to vilify people they have conveniently labeled as “liberals”… and actually don’t know why. Maybe for the same reason they flip off BMW drivers, I dunno..There have been some horrendous wildfires in SD County this week, and people have been helping each other and banding together in the face of a common threat. I personally know a curmudgeonly person (I’ll call him Zack, a real Obama-hater) who was evacuated from the Cocos fire, and taken in (along with his animals), by a “liberal” pub-mate he’d been antagonizing for a long time. It’ll be interesting to see if Zack’s nasty arguments will mellow, given an implicit awareness of the fragility of our environment and our need to support one another..Oh crap. But that’s socialism to care for ourselves and environment, isn’t it?
Stuart Carlson and Jerry Resler