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  1. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

    HA!

  2. ahab

    ahabGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Bull’s-eye!

  3. big G 3469

    big G 3469Genius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Right on Target Stu!!

  4. dwill

    dwill said, 2 months ago

    and this from a Strom Thurmond protegee…suprised he didnt attend the speech in his hood and bedsheet.

  5. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    bout sums it up … love the diapered representation of the GOP maturity level

  6. IrishEddieOHara

    IrishEddieOHara said, 2 months ago

    We have some trust issues with Obama. When he pledges that HR 3200 will not mandate payments for abortion and then reporters for Newsweek report that it will exactly mandate the funding of abortion – we have trust issues.

    Someone mentioned on a talk show a day or two ago something that has been proven through history – no bill ever goes the way it is promised once it is passed as law. We in the pro-life movement are afraid of this very thing happening.

  7. iamthelorax

    iamthelorax said, 2 months ago

    Don’t worry too much about the gov’t paying for abortions. The waiting period to get one will be 10 months. LOL!

  8. parkersinthehouse

    parkersinthehouse said, 2 months ago

    abortion is not in the bill period.

  9. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    That was the most empty, vapid speech I’ve heard out of him…He did lie; and he failed to convince me of the necessity of passing this socialist bill. Better luck next time, Pres. Obama.

  10. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

    PARKER: Per factcheck,org (which tilts liberal):
    ■The president said “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.” But the House bill would permit a “public option” to cover all abortions, and would also permit federal subsidies to be used to purchase private insurance that covers all abortions, a point that raises objections from anti-abortion groups. That’s true despite a technical ban on use of taxpayer dollars to pay for abortion coverage.

    So easy on the “periods”.

    NOTE: Abortion policy isn’t a big issue with me; just pointing out facts.

  11. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

    Regarding Illegal Aliens: Also from Factcheck, org
    (and remember they lean liberal):
    “Obama is correct” But then they say “However, conservative critics object to a lack of specific enforcement measures in the bill. They argue that the lack of a specific verification mechanism constitutes a loophole that would allow illegal immigrants to get benefits despite the legal prohibition. Republican Rep. Dean Heller of Nevada proposed an amendment to the bill that would have required the use of the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements program to check the citizenship of anyone applying for federal coverage or affordability credits. SAVE is the program used by Medicaid and similar entitlement programs. That amendment was voted down along party lines by the House Ways and Means Committee.
    Republicans have a point here: More could be done to enforce the ban.”
    Of course they then go on to agree with Obama by quoting some spokesperson for the American Immigration Lawyers Association (it’s not like they have an agenda or anything), who said basically its already fraud for illegals to lie on entitlement programs, so they would be in really big trouble anyway. And we all know illegals would never do that. Or steal SS#s. Right?

  12. fbrewer

    fbrewer said, 2 months ago

    IrishEddie - Here’s the link to Newsweek that you inadvertently forgot to include when you made your accusation.

    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/08/14/health-care-reform-and-the-abortion-debate.aspx

    And here’s the actual text from the linked article:
    “The House bill (H.R. 3200) doesn’t mention abortion at all,”

    What was that you said about trust issues?

  13. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Ah, the puppy pundit illuminates us with his whit :oD

  14. Gary Kleppe

    Gary Kleppe said, 2 months ago

    “Nazis are socialists.”

    Just like Saddam Hussein’s guards were Republicans.

  15. michael

    michaelGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    “When he pledges that HR 3200 will not mandate payments for abortion and then reporters for Newsweek report that it will exactly mandate the funding of abortion – we have trust issues.”

    The problem I have with the effort to legislate medical procedures is the are perfectly legitimate reasons for procedures that are labeled as “abortions”. For example, my ex-wife was in her first trimester when the pregnancy went horribly wrong and she would have died without an emergency D&C, which is a procedure that’s labeled as an abortion. The hard core abortion foes would have rather she died than have the procedure, and now people are arguing on top of losing a child we’d have to pay for the bleeep operation ourselves!

  16. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 2 months ago

    ANandy:
    You don’t think that a Strom Thurmond protegee, who defended the use of the Confederate flag over the SC State House, who openly disbelieved and challenged Thurmond’s illegitimate mixed-race daughter might be a tad racist? Nothing implied about it - he’s been pretty open!
    And the Nazis were not socialists. That name was a hangover from the party before Hitler took over. He didn’t give a bleeep for socialism, just total personal control, which is more properly fascism.

  17. setjeff15081947

    setjeff15081947 said, 2 months ago

    YAWN!

  18. ezdeb

    ezdeb said, 2 months ago

    Ah, yes. Remember, FactCheck.org leans liberal. All media does. Except when righties choose to quote from it; then it’s correct. When they like a factcheck item, it’s allowable because “see?? Even a left leaning report backs us up!! HA!” When they don’t like a factcheck item, it’s dismissed because “see?? Left leaning reports always back up dems!! WAAAH!”

    That said, I think Lorax’s statement was pretty funny. The waiting period for an abortion would be 10 months. Now that’s a good joke. : )

  19. ezdeb

    ezdeb said, 2 months ago

    ANandy does not deserve our responses. I’m disgusted with his “sperm donor father if you know who it is” hate filled racism.

    And the punctuation in my post got messed up. It’s supposed to be a smiley face. Not random, striper-like punctuation.

  20. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

    Good line, Gary! (I wonder how many folks got it.)

  21. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    GaryK, ditto Canookie’s chuckle at your good line

    I don’t believe factcheck.org leans liberal, but I checked with politifact.com, an equal opportunity debunker. They found obama’s claim half-truth (for the reason of insufficient verification mechanisms in the bill) and Wilson’s exhortation to be false.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/sep/10/illegal-immigrants-and-health-care-part-2/

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/09/joe-wilson/joe-wilson-south-carolina-said-obama-lied-he-didnt/

  22. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    ANandy, you sound like the puppy. Have you “any” idea how the Nazi’s developed or how the term was developed. I guess it’s just a smear word to shout when you don’t know what else to say.

  23. dtroutma

    dtroutma said, 2 months ago

    The right panel should be more tan to represent Boehner. The maturity level is actually too high for most of his group.

    As to banning abortion, just ban sex instead, hmmm that would be just a small step for the extreme hypocritical right.

  24. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    I am everywhere, Humphries! Bwa-hahahahaha…
    snicker,snicker…snort…(gasp)…choke…

  25. fennec

    fennec said, 2 months ago

    ^juvenile rebellion….

  26. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 2 months ago

    ANandy, I am NO ONE’S mouthpiece but my own. Facts are facts. Your slur does not conceal the fact that you failed to respond to the truth.
    And just for the record, the Nazi party existed before Hitler, who actually suggested a different name early on (he hated socialism, and said so - and arrested all the real socialists the first chance he got), but he did not control it at that point. He favored the “Führerprinzip” (“leader principle”), which meant he was the sole leader of the party and the country and was the “decider” for all policy. That’s not socialism. Feel free to read a book on the subject. Richard J. Evans’ new three-volume history is magnificent and very readable.

  27. nomad2112

    nomad2112 said, 2 months ago

    Anyway … Obama did lie about giving away free healthcare to illegal immigrants. He knows that the Dems voted down any attempt to verify immigration status. So, I can understand Rep. Joe Wilson’s frustration boiling over when heard the Prez. tell that one.

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  29. fbrewer

    fbrewer said, 2 months ago

    @dtroutma - you said, “As to banning abortion, just ban sex instead, hmmm that would be just a small step for the extreme hypocritical right.”

    They already did that - abstinence only. That’s why the teenage pregnancy, STD, and abortion rates skyrocketed during the Bush/Cheney administration. I would include Palin’s daughter in the comment, but that would be insensitive and unfair. It’s OK for her to run off at the mouth with vicious lies about everyone and everything, but you’re not supposed to tell the truth about her. She might cry. Or quit.

  30. Buzzy-One

    Buzzy-One said, 2 months ago

    NAandy - BS

  31. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    that’s one puppy confirmation.

  32. IrishEddieOHara

    IrishEddieOHara said, 2 months ago

    Michael – I’m sorry to hear about the loss of your child. Please understand that any pro-lifer who is SANE (yes, there are the unbalanced out there) will admit this fact:

    THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER COMES FIRST!

    What happened to your wife was this – she had a medical condition which needed to be fixed or she would die. The fixing of the condition unfortunately caused the death of the baby and was unavoidable.

    I hope you realize that this sad event is quite different from going into a woman’s body with no other intention than terminating the life of the baby.

  33. IrishEddieOHara

    IrishEddieOHara said, 2 months ago

    From the Newsweek article:

    But the question of whether the government will fund abortion is a little trickier. Why? Mainly because we’re still not sure what the final legislation will look like, but also because the answer is convoluted.

    Newsweek agrees. We don’t know what the Dems are up to in the end!!

  34. ezdeb

    ezdeb said, 2 months ago

    Irish, your last statement leads me to a question for you.

    Why is it, that righties keep thinking that there’s a hidden dem agenda? Democrats love stuff like social reforms, and that’s what’s being proposed here; progressive stuff that righties already hate.

    It’s weird that I keep hearing that “we” don’t know what the president or the entire democratic party is really up to. In fact, one hears the most amazing reports/rumors that there are indoctrination camps in the works, plans to take away the voting rights of republicans, North Korean style hard labor camps for those who bravely speak out, death panels, a wish to kill other Americans, etc. In fact, it’s not difficult to find righties who actually accuse the president of wanting to destroy our very foundation. This does not seem far-fetched or illogical to them. It’s as if dems had constantly, publicly and in town hall meetings, said that they heard that GWB really had an agenda of aliens coming to earth to anally probe Americans when they least suspect it. Yeah, it’s stoopid. Just as ridiculous are rumors that there will be hard labor camps for women who refuse to abort their babies.

    It’s obvious enough why righties would disagree with leftie policies. Why the absolute belief that there is somewhere, a more nefarious motive in this administration, and indeed, all dems?

    My hypothesis? There is an underlying dislike in conservatives for minorities to have power. People thought JFK would listen only to the Pope when making policy decisions. People thought FDR was a secret socialist. Right now, people think BHO will listen to an un-named “black agenda reparations hate-on-white-folks” group (Acorn!!) when making policy decisions, and it taps a fear inside (mostly) middle aged white people who already have what they need and fear it being taken away by hispanics and black people.

    This is notwithstanding the fact that our current administration has more republican (opposition) appointees than any in recent history. If anything, the president has disappointed his base by appointing very few outspoken, truly liberal agency heads. It really isn’t conservatives who should be really upset, but they are.

    Replies?

  35. parkersinthehouse

    parkersinthehouse said, 2 months ago

    I hope Wilson fails

  36. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 2 months ago

    ANandy: “fascism and socialism are degrees of liberal Keynesian economic theory.” How exactly do you conclude that?

  37. cdward

    cdward said, 2 months ago

    ezdeb, the right only screams such silliness because it doesn’t matter what they scream. The point is that if you scream “You’re being a meany!” Obama will bend over backwards to prove he’s not. The point of the screaming is to make sure Obama gets nothing done, appoints Republicans and becomes essentially impotent.

    The cure is to ignore what they say completely and plow ahead despite their protests that they are being (righty) left out of the process.

  38. deadheadzan

    deadheadzanGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    I have posted before that Obama has to be tough and not a push over and sociopaths only think a person is weak when a person is too conciliatory. I learned this from working with sociopaths at a Forensic Unit and at a maximum security penitentiary.

  39. David

    DavidGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    He is no more willing to work across the aisle to work healthcare reform out than Bush was…give me a break!

    Like any other politician he has an agenda to push and he intends to get it done. The only “bipartisanship” he wants is the same that Pelosi and Reid want: Republicans to sit down, shut up, and cast a vote in favor of the Democrats. It’s a game to both parties and the objective of the game is to win over the other at any cost including the good of this country.

    They are two groups of lemmings doing two different dances to the same music and leading our country off the cliff right along with them.

    Vote the scum out!

  40. striper77

    striper77 said, 2 months ago

    Obama’s lies continue

    Obama talked about how he would not add a single dime to the deficit, when the studies are showing it would add about a trillion dollars to the deficit over the second year of the plan. He talked about not permitting any illegal immigrant to be covered, when in fact it was Democrats who voted down any attempt to verify immigration status.”

  41. fbrewer

    fbrewer said, 2 months ago

    @striper - “the studies show” Right.

    My studies show it will save a trillion dollars before the end of the year. And my studies are better than your studies. I’ve got another study that proves that, too.

  42. M Kitt

    M KittGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    About Stevens, Political discourse is not supported by that behavior any more than bringing firearms to community rallies, disruption of the process is the goal, of course.

    GOP tactics don’t support discussion of the issues, that would only expose them as the frauds most of them are.

    Regarding GOP Nazi tendencies:

    Socialism is the polar opposite of totalitarian dictatorship, what the right wing tends toward.

    Anandy can’t be nearly as ignorant of that as he or she pretends to be, GOP are authoritarian and want to be told what to do by a dominant father figure, also considered by some to be a tendency of the sexually dysfunctional http://www.openleft.com/diary/14947/republican-gommorrah-max-blumenthal-the-gops-heart-of-darknes :-).

    666 is displaying common right wing projection behavior, those who justify their’ own faults by accusing others of having that particular issue/problem, similar to calling minorities “reverse-racists”, bigots of a feather flocking together in the GOP.

  43. tpenna

    tpennaGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    motivemagus, ANandy doesn’t “conclude” that. He merely asserts it.

    On another note, it’s always fun when ANandy decries ad hominem attacks, all the while throwing them at the President and various public officials.

    Everybody sees through you, ANandy.

    And, Gary Kleppe, I’m going to have to use that line!