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Steve Sack has been the staff editorial cartoonist for the Minneapolis Star Tribune since 1981. He has won assorted local and national cartooning awards, and has once been named a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.
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Jase99 said, 4 months ago
To steal a quote from one of my favorite t-shirts: The time for action has passed. Now is the time for senseless finger pointing.
dtroutma said, 4 months ago
They aren’t excuses, just the facts. At least Reagan and 41 DID raise taxes in order to stave off total disaster, “W” wasn’t that bright.
oldlegodad
said,
4 months ago
This is not sad Sack but cutting edge satire.
wittyvegan said, 4 months ago
Come on. He had 6 month to fix the economy, Iraq, Afghanistan and the palestine/Israel-conflict. That should be enough.
It took W only 8 month to see terrorism as a thread to national security.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
They should have a strip on Obama, his administrations and the democrats that has the House and Senate in Washington.
VP Dick Cheney looks like a good man compared to Obama and his Democrats which are no more than traitors.
charliekane said, 4 months ago
Somebody poop on your pop-tart, triper?
Is this a list of topics for upcoming GlennBeck programs?
TrickyPickle said, 4 months ago
Wow. I mean.. wow. Hey, Anthony! Remember that other thread where I was asking where you found ultra-right wing extremists aplenty that you kept talking about? Maybe we can ask Striper77.
deadheadzan
said,
4 months ago
Just click on striper’s ativar and follow the thread. All of these subjects are shameless propaganda points that the ultra conservative Obama haters thow out to inflame the right wing nuts into acts of violence. I think it constitutes a hate crime.
Jase99 said, 4 months ago
Wow. Striper77 is one huge vile of bile. Why do religious fanatics feel free to spew hate and willfully break the Commandments to suit their arguments? I mean, really. /Billions/ of dollars specifically for partial birth abortions? Allowing humans and animals to intermarry? Hate and lies aren’t Christian values. If Christ could see what people like Striper77 has done to his religion, he would be appalled and ashamed.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Jase99
You must of not read where any of the monies from the stimulus package went to. Over half went to pork barrel spending and liberal causes such as I mentioned. The democrat party itself has always catered to the groups that I have mentioned above. And yes right now the Obama administration and certain democrats are pushing for homosexuals, bestiality, child molesters and other perverts to be protected under the hate crimes act. I thought most of the liberals knew exactly what the Obama administration and the democrats are doing. Apparently not they are just listening to the media that is only stating what people want to hear not the actually events going on. If a republican picks his noise or has an argument with their spouse the media is out for blood with the liberals and democrats.
The democrats can do all the above and many more abominations and it is OK.
If Christ could see and does see what is going on here it would be no different than what Israel did in the old testament. Israel was once a great nation, now look at it now. He would also be ashamed of the acts of people like yourself, the television evangelists, the moderates, liberals, democrats, the acceptance of no difference between good and evil, the whole welfare arena and of course the items you mentioned. If you voted for Obama or any of the democrats in Washington you are for the abomination mentioned above.
I will make it easy for you there is over 100 million web sites on Obama’s liberal agenda. You can start their. You can type, Obama gays, Obama taxes, obama terrorists, obama Muslim, obama traitor etc.
charliekane said, 4 months ago
An’ tarnation,iff’n its on the internet it must be true!
Speshully iff’n it there a buncha times.
You betcha!
Jase99 said, 4 months ago
Yes, I’m sure there’s loads of anti-Obama sites full of outright lies and hateful opinions just like your own. I don’t need anyone else (conservative, liberal, fanatical, moderate, or otherwise) to form my opinions for me, thank you.
Lumping the gays with bestiality and child molestation is so old, it’s a cliche. It’s also total BS. It is a complete lie to say anyone in the Obama Administration has /any/ intention to include child molesters and persons who engage in bestiality under the hate crimes laws. It is a lie to say anyone in the Obama Administration intends to provide /billions/ of dollars specifically for partial birth abortions. That is willfully and repeatedly breaking one of God’s Commandments. That is your disconnect between good and evil.
By the words of the Republicans, Fox News, Limbaugh, and et cetera, it is treasonous to criticize the President while our troops are in harms way. That makes /you/ a traitor. That means /you/ have harmed the troops. That makes /you/ anti-American
Your notion that the Republicans are unfairly targeted by the media or partisan politics is a lie. If the Democrats had been embroiled in some of the scandals Republicans have been in the last 8 years, the media and Republicans would be all over it. Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy Jr.: All Republican, all found to have engaged in homosexual activity, all “abominations” by your definition. Were they denounced by you or the Republican party, or just swept up under the carpet?
I have read Obama’s stimulus package. Yes, some of it is “pork” and yes I oppose some of it. How loud was your opposition to Bush’s wasteful, pork barrel spending, or Bush Sr’s, or Reagan’s? Wasteful and politically motivated spending isn’t partisan, only the opposition to it is.
I have also read the words of Christ. Christ didn’t oppose welfare, he engaged in it. He helped those in need, not turn them away. Our welfare system isn’t how Christ would envision it, but it’s a step up from turning a callous, blind eye to a child in need.
I did not vote for Obama and I do oppose abortion, but I am not deluded enough to think the blind, one sided, hateful bile spewed by you and your kind is anything but hateful, hurtful, and an abomination.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
charliekane
If there is over 100 million web sites on one liberal agenda it may at very least be worth looking at. If the information their matches to what Obama is saying, the liberal media is saying and his critics are saying their may be some truth to it.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Jase 99,
Is this not true?
Here is the most recent bill that the democrats just passed in the House and now the Senate is going to vote on it. This bill came from Obama.
I want to know if we are in a recession or not how can the common person pay for this?
Only the United States Senate stands in the way of what the Wall Street Journal calls “the biggest tax in American history.”
That’s because the Pelosi-led House of Representatives just strong-armed the so-called American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 (also known as “Cap-and-Trade”) through the House of Representatives.
According to the Heritage Foundation, this massive “national energy tax” could cost the average family “nearly 3,000 per household per year.”
House Minority Leader John Boehner points out that it will “put millions of Americans out of work” as American jobs are shipped overseas or lost outright.
Even President Obama admitted that under “Cap-and-Trade” legislation, “electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
But that’s not all. Apparently, few if any Members of the House of Representatives even bothered to read this massive “national energy tax” before voting on it. Does this sound familiar?
According to Pioneer Press:
“Last week, the American Clean Energy and Security Act (the ‘Cap and Trade Energy Bill’), or H.R. 2454, was 946 pages long. Over the weekend, it ballooned to 1,201 pages with no explanation for how or why.”
Then, to add insult to injury, on the day of the vote, the Pelosi-led Congress added another 255 pages to the bill (which no one had read to begin with) at 3:00 AM (EST) and limited debate to three hours before passing this massive “national energy tax” at 7:16 PM (EST).
And when Boehner tried to read some of the provisions of this bill aloud on the floor of the House, liberals in Congress tried to shut him down.
“Democrats tried to shut me down as I read parts of Speaker Pelosi’s national energy tax (also known as ‘cap and trade’) out loud on the House floor. For more than an hour I cited provisions that will destroy American jobs, raise prices for gasoline and electricity, and devastate middle-class families and small businesses,” said Minority Leader
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Jase 99
Is this true?
Whoever would have believed that an American President would distance himself from America’s Christian heritage and speak of the “Holy Quran” in a nation that will not allow the gospel to be preached or Christian conversions to take place? Whoever would have believed that an American President would speak about “common ground” with a religio-political system that wants to rule the world and eliminate all religious and secular competition? Who would have believed that the government of the United States, at the direction of the President and his cabinet, would own private businesses with almost no opposition voiced by the media and Congress? Who would have believed that members of the media would refer to a president as “some sort of god”? Friends, it’s no longer 1984, it’s 2009, and this is YOUR America! What are YOU going to do about it?
If you think week-kneed politicians are going to represent your interests, think again. Most of them are in the business of protecting their jobs long enough to retire with a sweet pension that you and I can only dream about and a hoped-for cushy ambassadorship in the next administration. Sure, there are some good ones, but their voices are drowned out by the accommadationists. In fact, the real statesmen are a threat to the political status quo on both sides of the aisle. Never forget this. If we are going to get our nation back, we’re going to have to do it.
Bad ideas got us into this mess and good ideas will get us out. Unfortunately, most Americans don’t have any idea what these good ideas are. They’ve been brainwashed by government schools, led astray by a hostile media that does not have America’s best interests in view, and corrupted by an entertainment industry that distorts history and defines deviancy down almost any chance it gets.
But all is not lost, and it’s not too late. It doesn’t take a majority to turn a nation around, but it does take an informed and dedicated minority. In fact, God has put a great opportunity before us. In times of disillusionment people are ready for a shift in worldview thinking. Of course, it can go all bad as did during the French and Communist Revolutions and the rise of Nazism. Americans have chosen the better path in the past.
We’ll celebrate the signing of the Declaration of Independence in a few weeks. Who would have given those 52 signers a chance against what seemed to be impossible odds? I’m not sure that even they believed it could have been done. Great Britain certainly didn’t give them much notice until it was too late. From that humble document, the greatest nation the world has ever known was brought into its fullness and the rest of the world noticed and beat a path to her shores.
We MUST revive and embrace the principles of our earliest founders and go forward in a new spirit of liberty, independence, and optimism. We won’t do it by politics alone. It’s imperative that we understand what makes a nation great and the dangers inherent in unbridled political power.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Jase 99
Go to this web site and tell me if your opinions change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA
nomad2112 said, 4 months ago
Go Striper go !
Jase99 said, 4 months ago
He who talks of the one sided media shows some very nice examples of it. Funny how you don’t provide proof of the billions of dollars being funneled for partial birth abortions or your other Commandment breaking accusations. Of course there are millions of web sites going on about the “liberal agenda”. It’s not just you who blindly believes the lies and hate fed to you. I don’t believe when the Dems spew BS, I’m certainly not be swayed by fanatical “conservative” BS.
You post about how Cap and Trade will raise energy prices, but you don’t report that California’s Republican governor is looking to institute just such a system in his state. You don’t report that power companies fight to preserve their old polluting technology because upgrading will cost some of their profits. You don’t point out that the stimulus package provides grants to lower income families and some nice tax credits and incentives to the majority of the populous to install clean power generating wind turbines and photovoltaic panels. Not only does that off set the rise in energy price, it stimulates the economy with commerce and protects and possible creates American jobs. My company is in the process of purchasing just such American made products thanks in part to President Obama’s stimulus package. Less pollution, economy boosting commerce, helping low income families become more energy independent… I can see why you oppose /that/.
Your second piece didn’t contain much (if any) fact, just one sided, anti Obama opinion. It’s a load of BS. Same goes for the YouTube clip. I’ve seen YouTube clips of former President George Bush giving press conferences while clearly inebriated. Do you care about /that?/ I’m a nerd. Show me some non-partisan facts and figures, not fanatical anti-Obama BS. Show me actual proof of your Commandment breaking accusations.
churchillwasright said, 4 months ago
JASE99 Aside from the hate filled rhetoric against homosexuals, everything STRIPPER77 said is more or less accurate.
There was a bill giving those who practice bestiality and incest equal rights under the hate crimes act, although I don’t remember if it was Federal or State (and if it was, it was probably Calif– BTW you’d have a hard time finding republicans who think that Governor is really a republican). But I don’t know if the bill was ever passed, and it had nothing to do with Obama in either case.
Obama’s executive order did sendt millions for abortions outside of the US, but the way we throw around terms like millions, billions and trillions, I suppose it’s hard to keep track.
Other than that, I didn’t see you argue with any of his other points, except that you’re fine with higher energy costs because the gov’t is going to give more “tax credits” to people who don’t pay taxes to begin with.
You also seem to confuse the stimulus plan with cap and trade. Two different laws.
And Bush doesn’t drink, so you’re a liar, too.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Jase99,
Here is the web site for the hate crimes bill that I have been speaking about. You will see the Republicans tried to remove child molesters from the bill and others but the democrats fought and won to leave it on their. It has to be approved through the senate now.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=581080
AS I said in previous comments it is easy to find. The liberal media is trying to hide it. You claim to be a nerd so you already now where the full bill is.
Corosive Frog said, 4 months ago
Oh, and one more thing about the supposed link between homosexuality and child molestation; How do you explain the cases of young girls (like, under twelve years old) being molested by men? Are you going to say, like my mother did, that we are made for that anyway?
And nobody but you ever brought up bestiality becaus it’s no-bainer to us all; it is illegal and it will stay illegal.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Frog,
Here are the answers to your questions.
How do you explain the cases of young girls (like, under twelve years old) being molested by men?
The men who do this are perverts. In most states they get 10 years to life for this. They are separated from the regular inmates so they will not be beaten to death.
I have worked in corrections / jail / prison after I completed my time in the military.
And nobody but you ever brought up bestiality.
That is part of the hate crimes bill. I posted it in the past and got numerous remarks from people like minded as you. The most recent link I posted was from a pro-family group so they tried to keep it as clean as possible.
And a nickname like STRIPER77 surely fits somebody who is scandalized by sex :D
You are getting stripper and striper mixed up. A stripper is someone at strip club. Striper could be a fish or a Christian rock band in the 80’s. They are no longer together but the lead singer was on tour with Boston due to their lead singer is dead.
Corosive Frog said, 4 months ago
ok, but up here we have a law that’s about the same that is part of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms adopted in 1982 and nobody uses it to defend paedophiles since pedophilia remains a grave crime, no matter how legal is gay marriage.
As for bestiality, nobody would admit willfully being into that sort of thing, much less use it as a legal defense.
My point was, not all gays are pedophiles and not all pedophiles are gays.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
I just got this today. It mentions Canada’s hate crime and the similarity between the democrats one.
Senate Democrats are Pushing for Vote on the ‘Pedophile Protection Act’ –
ALERT: There’s a dangerous bill sitting in the U.S. Senate right now – one that liberal Senators want to sneak through without anyone stopping them. If this bill that the U.S. House passed isn’t STOPPED in the Senate, here’s what can happen, according to Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX):
If a mother hears that their child has been raped and she slaps the assailant with her purse, she is now gone after as a hate criminal because this is a protected class. There are other protected classes in here. I mean simple exhibitionism. I have female friends who have told me over the years that some guy flashed them, and their immediate reaction was to hit them with their purse. Well now, he’s committed a misdemeanor, [and] she has committed a federal hate crime because the exhibitionism is protected under sexual orientation… You see someone spying on you changing clothes and you hit them – they’ve committed a misdemeanor; you’ve committed a federal felony under this bill. It is so wrong.
Rep. Gohmert is right: IT IS SO WRONG!
But now, the Senate is ready to PASS that bill and send it to Barack Obama to sign into law –
Whatever happened to “equal justice for all”? As Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) stated, “Under this bill, justice will no longer be equal. Justice will now depend on the race, gender, sexual orientation, disability or other protected status of the victim. It will allow different penalties to be imposed for the same crime. This is the real injustice.”
Look, we all know that every year, many violent crimes are committed out of hate. But just as many violent crimes, if not more, are motivated by something other than hate – whether it’s greed, jealously, desperation, or revenge, to name a few. A person’s motivation for committing a violent crime is usually complex, and often we can only guess as to why he or she did it.
Every violent crime is deplorable – regardless of its motivation. Every violent crime can be devastating not only to the victim and their family, but also to the larger community whose sense of safety has been violated. That’s why ALL violent crimes must be vigorously prosecuted.
But this bill goes MUCH, MUCH FARTHER that simply prosecuting violent crime – it creates a new “protected class” of people that would now be protected under “hate crimes” definitions. That means that this bill will protect all 547 forms of sexual deviancy or “Paraphilias” listed by the American Psychiatric Association! This would provide a HUGE MASS of “sacred cows” in our society, which includes pedophiles who would be given elevated protection – giving “the offender” an additional decade behind bars.
And that “offender” could be YOU! If a pedophile tries to molest your daughter, or your nephew, or your granddaughter, or some little boy in the street – if you step in and beat the pedophile to get him away, YOU could spend ten years in prison for your “offense”!
I am NOT exaggerating this. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL), who supports this horrendous bill, admitted that the bill would protect all 547 forms of sexual deviancy listed by the APA. Here’s what Hastings said on the floor of the U.S. House itself:
This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these “Philias” and fetishes and “isms” that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.
Apparently, supporters of this bill have no problem with sexual deviants, including pedophiles, getting a higher level of protection against you and me!
Don’t think that some people in the House didn’t try to stand up against the Thought Police crowd. The House version of the so-called “hate crimes” bill was adopted on a 249-175 vote, but not before several amendments were proposed by Republicans trying to mitigate the impact of the draconian law.
For example, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) offered an amendment that was very simple: “The term sexual orientation as used in this act or any amendments to this act does not include pedophilia.”
The majority Democrats refused to accept that amendment – or any OTHER amendment along the same lines!
Far-leftist Senators Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) have introduced the bill into the Senate. However, because of the OUTRAGE they’re hearing from their constituents – YOU AND ME – they’re going to try to sneak in through by adding it as an amendment to a completely different bill… and Democrat Majority Leader Harry Reid has reaffirmed his plans to have the Senate vote on this dangerous bill before Congress’ August recess!
In George Orwell’s classic book, “1984,” the State was constantly cracking down on what they called “thought crimes” – that is, you didn’t face prosecution just because of what you DID – but also because of what you THOUGHT.
That is EXACTLY what this so-called “hate crimes” bill will do – it blurs the lines between violent belief, which is constitutionally protected, and violent action, which is not. If we go down this road, where does it end? With speech monitors and thought police?
As Janet Porter of Faith2Action noted, “Pushing away an unwelcome advance of a homosexual, transgender, cross-dresser or exhibitionist could make you a felon under this law. Speaking out against the homosexual agenda could also make you a felon if you are said to influence someone who pushes away that unwelcome advance. And pedophiles and other sexual deviants would enjoy an elevated level of protection while children, seniors, veterans, and churches would not.”
Rep. Gohmert warned that this law would be used against pastors – or anyone else – who speaks against homosexuality or other alternative sexual lifestyle choices, saying that it provides that anyone who through speech “induces” commission of a violent hate crime “will be tried as a principal” alongside the active offender.
Critics say that would allow for prosecutions against pastors who preach on biblical opposition to homosexuality if someone who hears such a message later is accused of any crime. A pastor’s sermon could be considered “hate speech” under this legislation if it’s heard by someone who then commits an act of violence against someone based on “sexual orientation.” The pastor could be prosecuted for “conspiracy to commit a hate crime”. Don’t think it could happen?
It already is.
Similar state laws have already resulted in persecution for Christians. In Philadelphia several years ago, a 73-year-old grandmother was jailed for trying to share Christian tracts with people at a homosexual festival. In Canada, which already has severely restrictive “hate crime” laws, government “Human Rights Commissions” review any “suspect” speech or actions that might be perceived as being against any of their “protected classes.”
So today, Canada has a major national magazine, a federal political party leader and a registered political party, a major Catholic newspaper (Catholic Insight) and an internationally renowned journalist (Mark Steyn) – all of whom are being investigated by appointed “hate speech therapists” from the commissions. Even Focus on the Family, one of the largest Christian publishing and broadcasting organizations in the nation, has admitted that it has been reviewing, and if necessary editing, its broadcasts to avoid complications with Canadian “hate crimes” laws.
THIS IS WHAT WE FACE IN OUR FUTURE – unless we take action NOW to stop this bill in the Senate!
deadheadzan
said,
4 months ago
I see striper is a newbie(June 2009) I wonder how long he will spew garbage, and truck loads of garbage, at that.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
deadheadzan
You should at least be concerned that the change Obama wants in nothing more than a complete destruction of any morals and values of this great nation I served.
This bill alone is the difference between the Obama voters and McCain voters. That being the Obama voters is for any an all forms of perverts.
If someone voted for him (Obama) they are for it.
dtroutma said, 4 months ago
Ted Haggard and Larry Craig - staunch defenders of the right, not to be trusted in the night?
striper77 said, 4 months ago
I guess you could say the same for Bill Clinton with his affairs and the people that showed up dead at the white house. What about that democrat congressman from CA whom was having an affair with his aid. He then killed her and got by with it. Or what about the current congressman from MA and the lady that one of the Kennedy’s killed in a car wreck. Or what about the 100 million plus web sites on Obama’s abomination?
It was bad what Craig and Haggard did, but no one was killed. Death and lies are usually around the democrats flames.
Corosive Frog said, 4 months ago
By sexual orientation, I believe they implicitly mean “gay or straight”. Maybe they thought it was obvious enough so that they didn’t need to specify it. Usually, in psychology (and I’m going for my master’s)”sexual orientation” refers to “gay or straight” and paraphilias are mental illnesses (I could ennumerate them, but I just don’t want to do that just after I’ve eaten) that are illegal.
http://tinyurl.com/2rqvb3
By the way, up here in Canada, somebody who hits his child’s molester is not prosecuted because everyone would do the same at his place.
Either turn off your paranoia or never get out without your tinfoil hat.
Corosive Frog said, 4 months ago
One could make a bill that condemns violence against gays, but not in cases of self-defense.
churchillwasright said, 4 months ago
FROG: As much as I hate to defend STIPER77 (because he’s a homophobe), he’s correct. The bill specifically debated the meaning of sexual orientation, and terms such as bestiality and pedophilia were left in (as compared to “straight or gay”. Efforts to remove them were defeated.
And if you don’t think groups like the ACLU would use this bill in court, or that there are people without shame who would say that their rights were deprived because they slept with a goat, you haven’t been following out culture or are delusional.