yepyep…. but at the time, I was living with the folks, and we were on a dirt road off of an asphalt one. Do you know what happens to dirt in the rain?.So Dad looked around for a better vehicle, and was sold on the Element’s steel cage. But what convinced me to go with it was the emissions (which were lower than California’s —at the time.).Now if I had to replace that wonderful SUV, I think I’d have to see what a Pilot, an Odyssey, or a Fit would be like… and Dad would still have to come along with me. (No telling when I’m going to have to drive him to his doctors’ appointments, so he has to fit into the thing.) But for now, the only way I’m going to replace it is if it gets totaled in some way… and that would take either a truck or a semi to do that.