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Steve Benson

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  1. wolfhoundblues1

    wolfhoundblues1 said, 7 months ago

    A blown vein does not make a cruel and unusual punishment case.

  2. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 7 months ago

    @wolfhoundblues1

    The US is exceptional.


    When the Japanese caused any discomfort to captured Americans, that was clearly torture under International Law, and the torturers were all hanged after Japan was forced into unconditional surrender, as they clearly deserved.


    On the other hand, when the US applies the rack, the bastinado, thumbscrews, electrodes to the genitals, the Chinese Water Enhanced Interrogation technique, or any other method for persuading, punishing, or killing its prisoners, Executive Order, Congressional Resolution, and Supreme Court opinion have all declared that this is NOT torture, but these are all absolutely legitimate methods, under International Law.


    However, the Oklahoma execution was only 50% successful. As the state of Florida explained (after an electrocution turned into the prisoner being burned to death not unlike the Inquisition’s preferred method of execution), and as the movie “The Green Mile” dramatised, an execution is completely successful as long as the prisoner is dead. Two prisoners were supposed to die that night, but the prison officials were so upset by the first, completely successful execution that they couldn’t bring themselves to see that the second prisoner was also dead that same night by the same method. (Of course, they’ve scheduled a ‘make-up exam’ and expect to have a 100% score on the two executions in a few of weeks.)


    So, if the US decided to employ breaking on the wheel or burning at the stake, neither of these methods would be cruel and unusual. Hence, what happened in Oklahoma was far kinder than the prisoner had any right to expect under US law.

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  4. Mephistopholes

    Mephistopholes GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    I don’t have a problem with the State using Capitol punishment for Violent crimes: Murder, Rape, etc.
    And I wholly agree with the Constitutional prescription against cruel and unusual punishment.

    But this doesn’t seem that hard to solve.
    Overdoses of Morphine cause the heart to stop and the body to stop breathing and that seems like a painless way to die.

    We could return to Firing squads or Gallows or Guillotines all which provide an exceedingly fast death.

    If we are absolutely sure of the conviction (hard to do) and we are absolutely appalled at his crime then we should come up with an instant kill and be done with it.

    I think the reason many get hung up on the cause of death is that we have become aware, recently, of cases where an individual was put to death and later shown to be the wrong person. So now they want to salve their conscience by saying “Well we didn’t torture him. We killed him quick”.

  5. Prof John

    Prof John GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    You’re so concerned about the criminal … What about the victims. Who gave his victims any protections?

  6. Zipi

    Zipi said, 7 months ago

    @Prof John

    Liberals don’t care about the victims. They only care about pampering criminals.

  7. mikefive

    mikefive said, 7 months ago

    @Prof John

    " Who gave his victims any protections?"

    In all the times I’ve seen this argument about the victims, I’ve never seen a way to do that. The only way would be precognition-a rather dubious thing to rely on.

  8. retpost

    retpost said, 7 months ago

    Remember his victim was buried alive; nothing cruel there!

  9. masterskrain

    masterskrain GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    A .38 slug to the head would have been a LOT faster and cheaper!

  10. Mephistopholes

    Mephistopholes GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    @Condoreggs – I think for the most part you and I are in agreement but I am not absolutely against Capitol punishment.

    I think proven murders should not be maintained in incarceration indefinitely at great cost to me and you. Timothy McVey was put to death (rightfully so). Charles Manson should have been put to death. We have cases where we have sufficient evidence to KNOW that these individuals have committed evil. They should pay the ultimate price for their crime. They should not get to languish in prison writing books and spreading their filth to others.

    I’m also not too hung up on it taking 10 minutes for the guy to die if it really is an accident. I don’t think we need to be absolutely sure that no mistakes can creep in to continue the process. I think we need to be reasonably sure. If we use the Absolute standard nothing gets done.

  11. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    I vote guillotine, then we can turn it against the 1% come the revolution against inequality.

  12. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    Some heinous crimes may deserve the death penalty in some minds, but ending those offenders “worries” might not be the answer.


    Long ago, when I said I didn’t see simple rape (without killing the victim) as a capital offense, I was challenged with the classic, “What if they raped your wife or daughter?” My response fit many of these heinous offenders “I still wouldn’t kill them, but from what I learned in Viet Nam, I would make it so they prayed every morning, to be allowed to die.”


    I do not consider a 4’ X 4’ cell, with NO human or outside contact for the rest of their, what would be short, lives, a cruel and unusual punishment, just what they gave their victims. 24/7 light, or dark, and “unusual” temperature control, gee, like at Gitmo, wouldn’t be too out of reason given Department of Justice guidelines under “W”, either.

  13. J Rightofrush

    J Rightofrush GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    I don’t feel sorry for him, we should feel for his victim. He got what he had coming to him. Some crimes just call for the death penalty.

  14. eepatt

    eepatt said, 7 months ago

    @Zipi

    Typical right wing nut job straw man arguement. You are first of all, wrong. Second, you listen to Faux too much without thinking.

  15. mdavis4183

    mdavis4183 GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    Heshould have been buried alive.

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