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  1. Enoki

    Enoki said, 5 months ago

    The real question is why did the Democrats do it? After all, Obamacare is TOTALLY their fault…

  2. Harleyquinn

    Harleyquinn GoComics PRO Member said, 5 months ago

    not yeh, more like told you so. and the dems say but but but busshh but but bushhh but but bushhh blame it on what the fox says..

  3. Harleyquinn

    Harleyquinn GoComics PRO Member said, 5 months ago

    @Mr. King

    truth

  4. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, 5 months ago

    In an attempt to give the nation something it needed, affordable healthcare, the Dems produced a flawed product based on a GOP product but which the GOP wanted nothing to do with under this President. From the beginning, the GOP worked against the ACA/Romneycare awaiting the day they could point at the Dems failure to produce a working long term plan. Now they cheer the damage done through Dem action and GOP inaction. They ignore the hospitals closing in states where medicare expansion is not taking place and focus on a website and people who want to keep policies that, when tested by reporters, end up not providing the type of coverage the complainers thought they had.
    The ACA is not a train wreck. It is a poorly designed train that does not move or perform like it would have had both parties worked together for the good of the American people, rather than working at odds with each other for the good of their party.
    The emergency room tax is already costing us trillions a year, and for lack of preventative care and health education provided by regular visits, people are dying from illnesses they don’t even know they have. The hospital closings are resulting in more deaths.
    Those conservatives who are against the ACA need to go ahead and write their congressmen and tell them that hospitals need to be released from their duty to treat people who come to the ER unless they can pay in advance. Without a product LIKE the ACA, our healthcare system will ultimately collapse on itself and the weight of costs. If you choose to kill the ACA, you are killing people through neglect and apathy.
    Respectfully,
    C.

  5. Enoki

    Enoki said, 5 months ago

    I disagree Respectful. The ACA is a badly flawed model that makes the basic assumption that more government bureaucracy equals greater efficency. It relies heavily on taxes and complex regulation to operate.
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    Clearly the solution lies in the opposite direction: Simplification and personal responsibility / initative. That isn’t to say taking government completely out of the picture but rather limiting government’s role to increasing competition and encouraging participation; but not through heavy handed regulation and taxes but rather through making incentives for individuals to participate.
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    I have put my own idea of how such a system would work up before here and elsewhere. It may not be perfect but it is light years ahead of that bureaucratic nightmare called Obamacare.

  6. mskemple

    mskemple said, 5 months ago

    @Respectful Troll

    Sorry buddy but on this you are wrong ." If you choose to kill the ACA , you are killing people through neglect and apathy". The SCOTUS passed this bill into law as a tax law – why , because it was never about the idealistic dreams you and others keep repeating. Obama and his people knew the numbers well before the 2012 congressional sessions , millions were going to remain uninsured , millions more would pay more and get less. It was and is a money grab , and a power grab – feeding an ever growing and out of control government more control over money and personal information. I respect your opinions more than most on this site but wake up dude . 1/6 of our economy as well as 95% of all medical , financial and biological (DNA) info will now be required by law to be controlled by a POTUS who lies every time he moves his lips. He has fed the American people pie in the sky while pulling the rug from beneath our feet . And because his supporters don’t want to be proven wrong they /you refuse to see what is right in front of you. I know the pubs have offered no answer but considering the treatment they have received from the press and dems since about 2004 they dare not introduce anything that the press and dems could twist and destroy. That is if our current republican party is not so divided as to be ineffective. In the name of Drew Brees I swear I want everyone healthy and happy also , but the ACA and Obama are not answers they are problems and costly ones at that!

  7. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 5 months ago

    @Enoki

    I have read your idea of a new system, and I find merit there. I agree that “personal responsibility/initiative” is a part of that equation, and that is where your plan falls to the ground.

    Even the professional hate-pundits are pushing the notion that young, healthy people shouldn’t be buying insurance. There will always be people who think that a new set of chrome wheels for the Suburban Assault Vehicle are way more important than wasting money on insurance premiums, and then they’ll fall off the roof. Oops. Expecting people to show maturity and responsibility is unrealistic. Witness how many people have not put one penny aside for retirement.

    The only way to make sure everyone is covered is to make a universal system. Single payer, single payer…..

  8. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 5 months ago

    “What really befuddles me is how anyone thinks Obamacare is going to stop ER visits.”

    Allow me to enlighten you. Without dollars, a diabetic will skimp on—or not take—medication. This person will eventually end up in the ER with a need for dialysis, amputation, or with kidney failure. Big bucks to fix. Once fixed, the patient is put back out onto the street. The underlying cause is not addressed.

    With a caring system (which many posters here have no desire for), that same patient would have been put on meds which would be more affordable, likely eliminating the need for incredibly costly emergency services.

    Same for a person with a heart attack. The ER will stabilize him, but will not address poor nutrition, stress, or overweight issues, nor will the hospital prescribe meds for high blood pressure, because this requires monitoring that the ER is not set up to do.

    Hope this helps.

  9. Harleyquinn

    Harleyquinn GoComics PRO Member said, 5 months ago

    @Respectful Troll

    t to give the nation something it needed, affordable healthcare, the Dems produced a flawed product based on a GOP product but which the GOP wanted nothing to do with "
    um no! make that a BIG NO.
    1st who made this a BIG DEAL, yet told us 85% liked what they had. It is the 15% Obama had to blow up how we pay in order save that 15%, by screwing over the 85% and LYING about it!
    2. This is NOT GOP nothing of the sort, sorry that lie is just not going to fly! Try something ken to Hillary Care!
    3. The GOP does have a plan. And the Libs would like nothing more to tear into it in order save off heat from their FAILURE! That is how they operate, can not do it, tear down the other guy.

  10. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 5 months ago

    The toon addresses “second term”, but the actions of the Republican Party, starting before Obama was first inaugurated, reminds me of a movie: Instead of Butch and Sundance, Boehner and McConnell, and the gang including Santorum, Cruz, Paul, Cantor, et al, are standing next to the train and McConnell asks Boehner “Gee, John, do you think we used enough dynamite?”


    There IS a difference between “loyal opposition”, and sabotage, of EVERY action, without regard to consequences, and acting AGAINST the people you represent, to make the “party” the sole beneficiary of your actions.

  11. Sharuniboy

    Sharuniboy GoComics PRO Member said, 5 months ago

    @dtroutma,
    But then again, YOU, Sir, are a voice of REASON in a cacaphony of parrot sqwaks. And who listens to – if even able to hear – REASON in a bird-brain nit-twit house?
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    Intelligent people disagree, and, usually, have alternatives to offer, or compromises based upon the actual ability to get a job done.
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    Where does one find wasting 45 efforts to “repeal” a Bill, while doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER about presenting a Budget – or offering even the hint of an alternative to what was to be “repealed” – in the dictionary under “REASON”?
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    One can vist the monkey house – or, in the case of Teabaghead/Republicanism, the avian house – in the zoo for brief amusement. But, how long does such a visit have to last, before the boundless idiocy of the zoo denizens, and nonsensical sqwaks, of the avian noisemakers becomes intolerable?
    ^
    Not that Teabaghead/Republicanism is going to change in the slightest, of course; but, why waste time, energy, effort, and intelligence on it at all?
    ^
    Vide: THE DAILY KOS, and the thread on the subject of the REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE and their false and fraudulent website, aping the actual ACA site, and paid for by tax monies.

  12. Enoki

    Enoki said, 5 months ago

    @I Play One On TV

    I Play One, I’d rather have those who made no effort to secure their own future fail rather than be coddled at the expense of the rest of us.
    Government could do more to encourage people to save for their own retirement or medical care and I have no problem with that. What I want to avoid is two fold:
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    First, I do not want government in charge of or running the system. Government is a terrible businessman. Whatever system they run they will do so right into the ground.
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    Second, I don’t trust politicians for a nanosecond to do the right thing. I fully expect them to loot retirement funds, as they have Social Security, and spend like drunken sailors so long as it is OPM that they are using.
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    So, if you want everyone covered you do something like this within the plan I have previously proposed:
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    Many of those that end up in emergancy rooms, urgent care, etc., that do not have insurance and cannot fully pay simply have their income tax return payments pulled and given to the medical provider to pay that bill.
    It isn’t uncommon for someone that cannot pay and does not have insurance to get a refund on their taxes and often stuff like EIC, etc.
    For those that get EIC we turn that part of the refund into a medical savings account for the recipent instead. That is government giving you money that you did not earn so in effect you are being subsidized to have a medical savings account.
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    No system, even single payer, is going to be completely cost effective. But, I would rather have one person made poor or owing a large sum than have everyone taxed to subsidize that one person and everyone be poor.
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    Is that “unfair?” Yes. Too bad for those that lose in that system. Does it create a fair and equal system? Actually, yes to the degree that everyone has the same opportunity to participate even if everyone cannot build the same size of account.
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    It is like letting motorcyclists choose to wear a helment or motorists to wear or not wear a seatbelt. So long as you recognize the risk and the choice you have made you should be allowed to have that choice as poor as it might be.
    We do not need a Nanny State.

  13. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, 5 months ago

    @Enoki

    Enoki, I regret to say I’ve never seen your plan and I totally believe there are simpler and more manageable ideas out there. Over the years, I’ve seen a score of programs about hospitals that are making it work for their books and their patients. If you still have a copy of your idea, I would love it if you would send it to sanesaint@hotmail.com. If I like it, I’ll forward it to my legislators and even the white house with your permission.
    In an effort to make too many various interests happy, the ACA was, as usually happens with legislation, made to be cumbersome and full of loopholes. I detest this practice and would like to see ideas from folks in our forum.
    Taking the “for profit” aspect out of healthcare would go a long way towards bringing down costs.
    Thank you for the patience and respect in your reply and I will look here tomorrow if you put your plan under this reply.
    Gratefully,
    C.

  14. pirate227

    pirate227 said, 5 months ago

    Haters gonna hate. Party first right, cons.

  15. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, 5 months ago

    @mskemple

    MsKemple!!! Are you also a “Sane Saint”?
    I do not consider Mr. Obama to be a compulsive liar, though I do believe he has said many things based on facts over which he had little or no control.
    I have little sympathy for the Dems and none for those who have led the Republicans over the last decade. Both parties are criminally negligent but the Republicans are, imo, hypocritical in addition to being career politicians who care more for party than for country. The Dems are also party first, but they’re hypocrisies are less damaging than that of the right.
    I do not know your numbers’ accuracy or your source. I do believe that within three years, the foundation on which the ACA was laid will still be strong and if legislators will work together, they can build something strong and lasting upon it.
    However, it seems you feel that attitude is an example of my delusion so I am left asking you what I’ve asked others…
    Are you ready to give hospitals the right to refuse service on an ER visit unless payment can be guaranteed? Failure to provide preventative/educational healthcare will mean people will continue dying in ER rooms and the ER Tax will dispersed amongst the rest of us.
    The ACA if the car we have. I do not believe the GOP will replace it if they are able to repeal it. Therefore I have to ask…
    what is the plan?
    I liked the swearing in the name of Drew Brees sentence. It’s better than my swearing at him when he throws an interception. :D
    Be well, MsKemple. I do appreciate you, even if we are in disagreement on this matter.
    Respectfully,
    C.

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