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  1. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Good toon … accurate representation of level of discourse those named above are capable of conducting

  2. NorthCarolinian

    NorthCarolinianGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Notice how Palin isn’t exactly screaming death panels anymore. And I fail to see how lumping the GOP into one category accomplishes anything other than discrediting it.
    Quite a few GOPers – probably the majority [in the country, not the Senate] – agree that reform needs to happen, they just disagree as to how.

  3. oldlegodad

    oldlegodadGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    800# welcome back in your beautiful persona, DITTO.

  4. fennec

    fennec said, 2 months ago

    Thing is, NC, they haven’t found a way to stifle the loud screams from the wingnuts. The Dems had this problem back in ‘68. They got rid of it by making rules the wingnuts didn’t like, even though it lost them a few elections. Too bad for the GOP that they took them in. The question is, how will anyone govern without them? Only by the moderates of both parties behaving with civility and moderation. (Can pigs fly?)

  5. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Oh I’m in heaven, oldlego gave me a ditto!

  6. nomad2112

    nomad2112 said, 2 months ago

    Moving right along … NOT ! ! !

  7. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Story of Nikki White, 32, who died of complications from lupus, a treatable disease, because she had no health insurance.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13kristof.html?th&emc=th

  8. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 2 months ago

    What do you mean, she isn’t, NorthCarolinian? (I grew up in Charlotte, by the way.) Did you not see her editorial where she claimed she was justified in saying that?
    The reason to lump them together is because they are speaking in remarkable synchrony. Periodically Jon Stewart shows how the exact language is the same.
    Also, the GOP has made it quite clear that they will agree to nothing in this plan. When the GOP Senator on the committee who wrote the plan said “I probably won’t vote for it anyway,” that made it pretty clear.

  9. believecommonsense
  10. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    We have talked this issue amongst ourselves (the Dems) to death…and , now, I as your Supreme Leader must take the lead and warn you that if you don’t go along with me…I will have to shut down your radio stations and the internet. I WILL not allow those who caused this problem to waste our time with their disingenuous noise. If you happen to hear anyone say anything negative against my plan, I want you to know there is a web-site where you can turn in, I mean submit this person’s name so I can send some explanatory information their way. Now I ,as your Supreme Leader, will speak with you next week - or sooner if my polls drop.

  11. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    This is an excellent article on end-of-life care. As you read, remember that attempts to begin to address this issue is what Palin, Grassly and other GOPers worked hard to defeat in healthcare reform.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/215291/page/1

  12. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    This does not describe a death panel. Rather this is how cost savings will effect the ill. Note is is from the NYT. Those of us in practice see similar stupidity from Medicare on a daily basis. This is the future.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/14/health/policy/14kidney.html?_r=1&emc=eta1

  13. charliekane

    charliekane said, 2 months ago

    Check the eyes. The windows to the soul.

    This ‘toon needs nothing else.

    Citishorty:

    What you snortin’?

  14. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    puppy, bosey- wosey.

  15. cdward

    cdward said, 2 months ago

    Excellent book review in NYT today of a new book by T.R. Reid. And yesterday, Roger Cohen had a great piece on Health Care. Sorry, not good at links.

  16. lalas

    lalas said, 2 months ago

    Puppy – if you wingnuts would offer something constructive or even remotely approaching adult conversation then you would be included. As long as you remain petulant little children then you will be treated as such.

  17. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Lalas, this is like talking to a coffee table…when will you Libs put out the drinks?

  18. stebon

    stebon said, 2 months ago

    Hey, Benson, the Dems said they took out the pages (425 thru 430) which pertained to the “death panels”. If they were not there in the first place, then why did the Dems say that that part of the bill had been removed? How do you remove something that wasn’ t there in the first place?

    Obama is a liar and screams racism whenever he is challenged. Typical liveral tactic.

  19. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    ^ there was no death panel, no panel to decide who gets care and who doesn’t … it was only about reimbursing docs to explain options and end of life, and never more than once every five years …. it’s too bad it’s been removed, it was for the benefit of people to more fully understand the options available to them. read the NYT times link above.

    the liars were the people who shouted about “death panels”

  20. treered

    treered said, 2 months ago

    stebon, up til today, the only things calling a person a racist was the gop. as fas as explaining 425-430, it will take more than two words and you wouldn’t be able to follow it…

  21. cdward

    cdward said, 2 months ago

    Yeah, I did notice a lot of folks calling Obama a racist, which I thought was kind of bizarre. I mean, the man has black and white family, is mixed race himself and grew up appreciating both better than perhaps most.

  22. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    treered

    See Maureen Dowd in the NYT. Opposition=racism

  23. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    treered

    Today former Democratic President Carter Opposition= racism

  24. Corosive Frog

    Corosive Frog said, 2 months ago

    Not all opposition is racism, but that particular picture of Obama dressed as a voodoo wich doctor certainly was.

  25. parkersinthehouse

    parkersinthehouse said, 2 months ago

    pardon me for pasting part of an earlier post - speaking to the issue:

    racism is huge in great areas of the south. hate groups (defined by southern poverty law center - - hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics) are rampant, especially NC (30), South Carolina (45) south to FL (56) and west to TX (66), MO (30) and even California (84). and in the northeast - PA 37, NJ 40, VA 26, and so on. http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp

    as long as we’ve had white presidents, no one has ever challenged a president in the ways we have challenged President Obama (Wilson, Limbaugh, Palin, Hannity, Dobson, SHIMKUS - no better than Wilson).

    He’s been called communist, racist, nazi, magic negro, muslim infidel, non- and unamerican, liar - we didn’t shoot off that kind of epithet about the white presidents

    parents were never convinced to keep their kids away from a president’s address until President Obama. In fact kids were encouraged to take part in history. the old misbegotten fear of secret negroe stuff

    how easy it seems to be for some to treat President Obama so shabbily when he is the Commander in Chief of the United States. it is racist behavior - evident on every level. the racism seems to have surpassed the slave days, but it’s reminiscent of the way white restaurants treated black customers in the 50s with ignorance and disrespect.

  26. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    I disagree, Parker. While I’m sure there are racists and especially some who are behaving racist out of ignorance and fear; the majority of the opposition opposes him on political and/or ideological grounds. The very idea that opposition = racism; is RACIST! Or would be, if it was the other way around.

  27. dtroutma

    dtroutma said, 2 months ago

    I get some of the same complaints against Obama from some truly “old time Democrats”. I just came back from a trip to the south, sorry, but the racism, and xenophobia in this country right now is the worst since the post-civil war era. The only effect of the Civil Rights Act, and other laws is that they have only prompted the use of exaggerated “weasel words” to keep folks, especially in print, and the electronic media, from saying what they really intend.

  28. charlie555

    charlie555 said, 2 months ago

    After the example of Obama, allow me to apologize to all Southern-Americans reading these posts filled with prejudice against them.

    I guess it’s better to throw y’all under the bus than admit Obama may be wrong.

  29. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 2 months ago

    charlie, that was nasty. I grew up in SC and NC. I live in MA. Both North and South have plenty of racism, in different ways.
    But it is interesting how the birthers want to talk about Kenya all the time, isn’t it?

  30. charlie555

    charlie555 said, 2 months ago

    ^Even birthers have a right to free speech without anyone second-guessing their motives without proof.

    I lived in the south until recently and can only figure President Carter is clinging to a South that no longer exists (but in the small pockets of ignorance that exist in every state).

  31. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    not all opposition to this president is racist … I believe many people are feeling fear … just look at the upheaval in this nation since the middle of 2008 with the bailouts, bankruptcies, talk of global economic meltdown, economy tanking, housing bubble bursting (which it had to do, it always does and in long run, it’s beneficial or no one in middle class could afford to buy a home)

    that fear is not based on racism and racism isn’t a charge to be lightly thrown.

    but racism is out there, some of it blatant on signs and posters, and even straight out of the mouths of the talking heads. Example: the man speaking for the Tea Party Express on CNN called the President a Indonesian Muslim something something thug. I do believe there are political manipulators stoking racist fear where it might not otherwise exist for political purposes. They’re the worst of all, because their reasons are crass and less obvious.

    It’s a balancing act for me. Decrying racism can be counterproductive where it isn’t fundamental, yet remaining silent can be a form of aid.

    what’s the quote? “Evil exists when good men do nothing.”

  32. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Not all opposition is based on racism. Allow me to suggest just why.

    Of the 9 Supreme Court justices my personal favorite, the one I agree with most often, is Clarance Thomas. I know many of you feel differently. I would never accuse you of racism because of your opposition but President Carter, Maureen Dowd etc have not been so tolerant. I just basically disagree with Obama and it obviously has nothing to do with then fact he is half black.

  33. charlie555

    charlie555 said, 2 months ago

    ^Good example.

  34. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    GNW, allow me to suggest that I said exactly what you said before you said it. not all opposition to this president is racist

    BTW, I have posted information and links about your statements re insurers’ profit margins, Obama’s intent with illegals in healthcare bill, the accuracy of information about the woman with breast cancer whose insurer rescinded her policy retroactively because she had been treated for acne.

    You have yet to respond to any of these but you post the same inaccurate or questionable information elsewhere. Do you have a bad memory or do you enjoy obfuscating?

  35. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    BCS

    I have answered your comment about Obama and illegals several times, in great depth. I have followed your debate on insurers profits and have seen nothing to refute what I read about 3-4% margins. I have been unable to find my source re cancer/acne so will assume you are correct and I was in error.

  36. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    GNW, if you looked at the links I provided, you can hear the woman testify herself, bald head and all. You can also listen to the questions and answers with the insurance cos. representatives. Very enlightening.