State of the Union by Carl Moore

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mroberts88 said, 15 days ago

Kids need to be taught that gang life isnt good, it usually ends in prison time, or death. Those that are fortunate enough to leave, really are lucky.
Jor-El said, 15 days ago

From Operation No Gangs:

Fatherless Statistics

Very sobering.
scottfreitas said, 15 days ago

Feminists and their minions (which includes pretty much all politicians) refuse to deal with what should be an obvious truth, and which all non-governmental, non-feminist studies have shown: Being raised by a “single mother” is the biggest curse any child–especially boys–can have.

The fact we even have to ARGUE about such things is why I despise western culture. I mean, the co-called “Left” has driven us all clinically insane. We refuse to admit that two sexes exist for a reason, instead embracing and defending homosexuality. We refuse to admit that men–fathers–are every bit as important, necessary, and vital for humanity’s growth and survival as mothers, instead using abortion and “no fault” divorce laws to steadily erode the amount of men whom are ever personally involved in their children’s lives.

How can you reason with insane people? The Left denies every obvious truth imaginable. They act like ignorant animals who have no idea what a human being is, what a man or woman is, what a child or adult is, what ANYTHING is. They want to argue about everything imaginable, and try to redefine reality into some weird version of Hell where nothing matters except Self. To the left, Self is all there is. There is nothing beyond Self, and thus there can be no agreement, no unity, no community, nothing beyond their own individual madness.

Study History books. Show me where from 0 AD to 1960 AD the western world ever sat around fighting about what marriage was (it was the union of a man and a woman for those entire 1,960 years), what the roles of men and women were (men were fathers and husbands who worked to support their familes, women were wives and mothers who nurtured and raised their children, again for 1,960 years uninterrupted).

We in America live in the most anti-intellectual culture to ever exist in all of human History. A culture which is so intellectually bankrupt that it claims it cannot understand ANYTHING–any one universal fact–about being human. It cannot understand sex, family, marriage, nor even state with any certaintly that humanity has learned anything at all about itself during its eons of existence. It claims there is no truth, no morality, nothing.

Nothing but Self.

Nothing but Opinion.

Nothing but political power which grows from the barrel of a gun…
DavidDow said, 15 days ago

Today’s strip is a much stronger argument against guns than it is an argument in favor of fathers.

As for these terribly misleading stats about “fatherless children”: children also do better when reared in lesbian or male homosexual households than they do in single-parent households. The issue is not fatherfullness or fatherlessness. The issue is that two parents are more likely to give children more attention—and, most importantly—to have more money to provide children better educations & a living situation away from violence, deprivation, & depression.

The connections between children at risk & single-parenthood are almost completely related to money—not to the single parent. If we lived in an egalitarian society—rather than in one with a huge gap between rich & poor, one where 20% of children live in poverty—then these gruesome statistics would be greatly lessened. Many European countries have children growing up in single-parent families. They don’t wind up like so many of our children, because the society cares about the child’s welfare.
DavidDow said, 15 days ago

Fort Hood, Texas (11/5/2009): Twelve people dead, 31 people wounded by guns.

Killeen, Texas (10/16/1991): 22 people dead, twenty people wounded by guns.

Albuquerque, New Mexico (08/27/2009): One man dead, shot by his ten-year-old son, who was “angry” and got the shotgun from “dad’s gun closet”.

The surest way that someone in your house will die from a gun: OWN ONE.
big G 3469 said, 15 days ago

And don’t forget Virginia Tech in 2007, Goleta in 2006 The Massacre at a McDonalds in San Ysidro in 1984 & the massacre of preschool children in Dunblane Scotland in 1996. All by deranged people using guns!
DavidDow said, 15 days ago

Thanks, Big G. Let’s gather the numbers. How many at Virginia Tech, Goleta, &c.?

Don’t forget: Without better safeguards, we will continue to have deranged people with guns. “Deranged people with guns”: Hardly the definition of “a well-regulated militia”.
sablebrush5 said, 15 days ago

This guy was a Muslim. What else is new? What is it about this religion that produces so much insane behavior? Suicide bombers who blow up innocent women and children; honor killings; girls who have been raped are killed by their father or brothers; women who have committed adultery are stoned to death; homosexuals are executed; the list goes on and on. We are not simply fighting a religion, we’re fighting the Middle Ages.
DavidDow said, 14 days ago

Sable, so far, Big G & I have listed seven incidents of gun-deaths: one by a Muslim; most of the rest by Christians. Check the log in your own eye first.
toasteroven said, 14 days ago

So, if you are only raised by a mother, you will, inevitably, end up going on a shooting spree?

Man, I’ve got to tell my uncle. He’s about 30 years overdue.
scottfreitas said, 14 days ago

People like “David Dow” are at the very heart of the matter depicted in the above cartoon. Those bullets are flying because of people like HIM. Those women are parroting those feminist myths because of people like HIM.

How long are we going to listen to the ravings of madmen? Did you read David’s earlier post, where he spewed made-up lies which echoed my earlier laments (see my opening post)? David Dow obviously believes two sexes exist for no reason; male and female mean nothing, serve no purpose, have no meaning. Mothers and fathers mean nothing, serve no purpose, have no meaning. Sexuality means nothing, Dave implies. Stick your genitals anywhere they fit, its all the same.

He claims the real problem at Fort Hood ARMY base today was the presence of a gun. That its because a career, high-ranking SOLDIER at a MILITARY BASE had a GUN that the murders took place!? He cites a random collection of shootings and claimed they were all done by CHRISTIANS, except for the lone Muslim shooting, which he said meant nothing, because there was obviously no connection between the man’s religion and what he did…

How much madness are people expected to endure before we fight back? How long must we all pretend to be deaf, dumb, and blind before we get sick of being told lies so transparent than any child we asked could see right through them?

This is how and why wars start–because people like Dow try to force everyone to embrace their unthinking madness, and eventually at least a few good men get to the point that they would rather die than live under such mindless tyranny any longer…
toasteroven said, 14 days ago

Hey, guess what!

A lot of people died recently!

Are those deaths going to be twisted and distorted in order to serve a dozen and a half agendas, because the obscene opportunism of the human race knows no limits?

Oh, baby, you know that’s going to happen.
scottfreitas said, 14 days ago

Facts compiled by the Department of Justice

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
90% of all homeless and runaway youths are from fatherless homes.
85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders are from fatherless homes.
71% of high school dropouts are from fatherless homes.
70% of youths in State institutions are from fatherless homes.
75% of adolescent patients in substance abuse centers are from fatherless homes.
85% of rapists motivated by displaced anger are from fatherless homes.

Shall we continue? We live today under a government OF the feminists, BY the feminists ,FOR the feminists. We’ve let an insane man-hating religion dating back to the paganism of ancient Greece and Rome redefine our marriage, family, parenting, divorce, and custody laws, and seize almost complete control of our educational curriculum, our politics, and our media.

Always supported by the D. Dows of the world. The Barack Hussein Osamas, who gain political power so they can proudly proclaim “I’m a feminist!” to a dying, dysfunctional culture…
GJ_Jehosaphat said, 14 days ago

Let’s hope scott(freakedout)tas doesn’t own any guns. Sounds like he either came from a single parent (mother) family OR is divorced & pays child support. Either way - Duck!

Scottfritas is on a Rampage against women - Feminists in particular. What happened in 1960 that changed things for fathers? Tried to google & only found “The Pill” was approved by the FDA - that should have reduced the single mother “problem”….

Oh & here is another well known massacre in TX:

“April 16, 2007
University Of Texas Tower Sniper Recalled
1966 Rampage Was Deadliest Campus Shooting Until Virginia Tech

Whitman, 25, a Lake Worth, Fla., native and former university student, opened fire from the 28th-floor observation deck, shooting people on the streets 231 feet below.

Sixteen people were killed and another 31 were wounded before police killed him about 90 minutes later.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/16/national/main2689785.shtml
Lewreader said, 14 days ago

My father refused to let me have a BB gun because he said they bred recklessness. At 12 years old, he gave me his father’s single shot 22. I had to manually pull the bolt, insert a round, throw the bolt forward and release the safety before I could take that precious shot. I learned that every shot was earned and was deadly. This was not something to fool around with. The power of life and death was in my hands.

Yesterday in Hartford, Ct. 7 shots were fired upon a youth. One hit his foot. Guess the shooter never had a father role model.. Maybe the shooter was using a lot of ammo to make up for his own self esteem of not having a father who cared enough to stick around and raise his son
wndrwrthg said, 14 days ago

So having a father that constantly beats and abuses his wife and kids is better than no father at all? Not every married couple is like Ozzie and Harriet.
DavidDow said, 14 days ago

Thank you, Scott, for not being able to argue against any of my points. The stats you mentioned were mentioned earlier by Jor-El, and addressed in my first remark. They have little to do with fatherlessness and almost everything to do with poverty and lack of societal support. One in five children is born into poverty. If you were a Christian, then you would be helping the poor.

The shootings a Fort Hood took place at an event in which none of the soldiers was supposed to have a gun. The gunman used a concealed handgun.
Chrisnp said, 14 days ago

DavidDow, guns are the instrument, not the cause, in these horrible events. Millions of people own guns, and gun possession does not drive them to do this. So, let’s get back to what the cartoon is actually about.

And yes, wndrwrthg, we all realize that having an abusive parent is probably worse than none at all. People like that tend to grow up to be internet trolls.

While I agree that two loving parents are better than one, there is insufficient evidence that a homosexual couple will provide the same benefits as a heterosexual couple. There simply haven’t been enough studies done, in large part because there are very few of these couples who have raised their children all the way to adulthood at this time.

On the other hand, there have been plenty of studies that show men contribute differently to raising a child than women do. Men’s contributions to raising a child have been grossly undervalued for years; I think part of that problem is that in the women’s liberation movement, being equal began to be viewed as being the same.
Mr.Gareth said, 14 days ago

Being raised only by your mother does not condemn you to a life of violence.

I am:
a white male.
was raised by my mother.
grew up in Chicago.
own guns.
am a Christian.
have never fired a gun in anger.
do not hunt.
enjoy target shooting only.

This cartoon does not depict the inevitable.

Does anybody know, what the percentage is of shooters in the U.S. who were raised with a father in the family?
DavidDow said, 14 days ago

Chris, what do you mean by “the same benefits”? The evidence about children is that children with two parents have, by & large, an easier upbringing & are less likely to have problems as teenagers and young adults than are children with just one parent. This has little to nothing to do with the sex of the parents. It has almost everything to do with income.

As to the gun issue, you make my point: guns should be registered & licensed; gun owners should be licensed, with extensive background checks; and, as part of the “well-regulated militia”, gun owners’ names & contact information should be public knowledge. Yes, let’s address the cause.
Mr.Gareth said, 14 days ago

Just curious scottfreitas,

What is the name of the religion you describe as;

“an insane man-hating religion dating back to the paganism of ancient Greece and Rome “?
harleyquinn said, 14 days ago

Yeb what we need to do is let those high school girls bring there babies to class and have all the other girls ooo and ahh over the little one. Then we need to set her up with her own place and food and such for the baby.
sound stupid? That is what I have seen 1st hand more then a few times. i have heard girls yes I said girls under 18 bragging how they are going to get them one of those welfare babies so they can be independent and out of the house.
What ever happened to the shame of a girl getting knocked up in high school? now it is a badge of honer to get knocked up in Jr. high.
Jae'da said, 14 days ago

“Study History books. Show me where from 0 AD to 1960 AD the western world ever sat around fighting about what marriage was (it was the union of a man and a woman for those entire 1,960 years”
I was under the impression marriage was used as a tool to gain land and other property and had nothing to do with love or real family units. In fact it is, for some, still “one man, many women.” That’s certainly not a 1:1.

Your arguments fail to take any complexities into account such as effeminate fathers and masculine mothers. If the father provides the nurture and the mother is the stern one, then you have role reversal which does happen. You are assuming that all men are these heartless robots which have no feelings and march in a goose step of cavemen genetic stereotypes.

Two parents, male, female, or otherwise, can raise perfectly healthy, perfectly normal children. I can think of a football player in the national leagues who was raised by lesbians and he loves his parents. He’s straight, he’s normal, he’s a ‘man’s man.’ He was raised by two women. It doesn’t have to be a man and a woman. Plenty of dysfunctional children are raised in “opposite” families. Typically you just need a “father figure” and a “mother figure.” Their genders do not matter.

Last I checked, too, Divorce rates were higher in “red states” – states that claim to champion family values. Possessing a moral compass has nothing to do with which side of the political isle you are on and you have plenty of rotten apples on the Right that you should air out before taking shots at the Left concerning morality.

Legislating morality is almost always stupid.

I got married – legally – without a church, without a priest, and if I had said so, without a denomination (I chose Christian, but she said I could have had a non-denominational marriage). Marriage is too tied into government rights and privileges. When you provide legal rights for something you have to provide that for everyone. That is why it is unconstitutional to ban or refuse to legally recognize marriage of same-sex couples. It has nothing to do with religion (as even the same with plenty of straight marriages) and everything to do with legal protections. No church is being obligated to marry these couples. You can get married – legally – without one. Therefore religion should have nothing to do with whether or not two people who are born and attracted to the same gender (an issue of birth) wanting to have the legal protections to shield the one they love. It’s not an issue of morals.
jack75287 said, 14 days ago

The idea of having two moms or two dads is to soon to see how they turn out in response to violence. Even if they are less violent there are other things to consider, are they as motivated are they square and can they cope with the troubles of life.

As for the strip if they had fathers they would:
A:
Would not feel the need to shoot there fellow man.
B:
Would shoot straight, killing each other with one shot, leaving the world safer for all of us.

Daivid

I know you are not going to listen but would you please not use yesterday’s tragedy to post you silly rants.

Also as for scott comment:

%90 of fatherless homes has nothing to do with fatherlessness. Zing!
Chrisnp said, 14 days ago

Interesting how this thread has run from same sex couples to gun control to religion to red state vs. blue. Clearly there are sociological reasons for youth violence beyond the single parent household.

Jae’da, in addition to looking at history, I would turn to a couple of college level psychology books on human development and theories of personality. Certainly there are exceptionally nurturing men and exceptionally aggressive women. Both of them are by definition, exceptions. Also, neither of them is by the virtue of their exception necessarily a substitute role model for the other gender.

DavidDow, Thanks for your well reasoned response. There is debate about how much of the psychological attributes of our gender are biologically versus socially driven, but the majority of researchers agree that there is some of both – it’s the proportion that is arguable. In the case of this cartoon (and providing the fathers were not gang-bangers themselves, the effect of single parent families being multi-generational) a good father would provide a positive male role model on a daily basis, as well modeling how to appropriately channel aggression. It appears that women do not ordinarily process internal or external aggression in the same way as men, and boys tend to look for male role models elsewhere if none are available in their homes.

I think that how same sex marriages would fit into this picture is, as I have mentioned, unclear. I know anecdotally that having been raised by my mother and grandmother, I was blessed by having two caregivers in my home, but I feel I faced more difficulties growing up by not having another male in our home.

I agree that income is a very important factor, just not the one referenced in the cartoon.

Back to guns. DavidDow, all of your proposed gun policies are reasonable, although debatable. What they do not do, because they do not address the cause, is make these young men less prone to joining gangs or being violent.
Contrarian said, 14 days ago

The Urban Institute concluded that the disintegration of the family is the basic cause of long-term poverty and violence.

Social engineering of the Great Society contributed to the breakdown of the family by rewarding and promoting non-marriage and illegitimacy.

Single parent families received greater benefits.

Thus, in 1965, the illegitimacy rate was 6%, but steadily increased to 40% among Hispanic families, and 70% among African American families. (Source: Columbia University.)

These statistics were matched by increasing rates of drugs, crime and gang activity.
Contrarian said, 14 days ago

Re: European countries have children growing up in single-parent families. They don’t wind up like so many of our children, because the society cares about the child’s welfare.

Columbia University concluded:

The US is different from these other countries in one important respect. Whereas in Europe the overwhelming majority of unwed parents are living together when their child is born, in the US less than half of new unwed parents are cohabiting. Thus, children born outside marriage in the US are much more likely to be poor and much more likely to experience father absence than children born outside marriage in other countries.
mroberts88 said, 14 days ago

David, in the school shootings, the victims didnt have guns to fight back with. Firearms are deadly, and should be used responsibly. There are, and will be incidents where people use guns to murder, however, there will be instances where guns are used in self defense.
My2Cents said, 14 days ago

Liberal namby-pambies.

An agenda that promotes feminism, homosexuality, abortion, sexual perversion and deviancy, decriminalization of drugs…that is anti-male, anti-God and anti-family.

I wonder, if the shooter at Fort Hood had been a white, Christian separatist…would DavidDow had been as dismissive of the fact that the shooter was a Muslim?!

Let’s disregard that he shouted “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great!), or that the FBI had been tracking him for 6 months.

Liberals are incapable of recognizing or defeating this enemy.
Herbabee said, 14 days ago

^ Yah, right. And in the righty-tighty mindset there’s one hidin’ behind every bush. (no pun intended?)
jack75287 said, 14 days ago

As for family issues. The reason why a marriage should be and remain between a man and a women is that it gives the child the best way to be created and raised. On top of this a man and a women gives the best example during the years it is being raised. With two of the same sex the child dose not get the same chance to see both the sexual and non-sexual and could very well think of people as sexual objects. This may not be fair to two men or two women but raising children is about children so it is not about being fair it is not even about the adults and that right there is my point.

On a second point a lot of people her have thrown statistics and history out there fine. First statistics are meaningless to the individual because they can be twisted anyway you want. Another person brought in History to say that Marriage was for acquiring land. Marriage has been abused that way but not every one in history was a land owner so to say that its purpose is for wealth is insulting to every Marriage in the world. If it was used for land only it would not have lasted over three thousand years in just about every major culture in the world.
wsfn said, 14 days ago

OK, seriously, in what world do you idiots really believe that single mom’s want to be?! I’ve never known anyone who said, you know, it’s tuesday, I’d really like to be a single mom, who needs a freaking partner?

What would you suggest to the mother of 2 who’s spouse leaves her for another woman? “Oh, you are an unfit parent because there is only one of you, so hand the kid over to the state or better yet…mary the next white male who passes your way so you can both be unhappy and the schmuck can beat your child, that’ll larn ‘im! Gosh, he’s a boy, a woman can’t possibly raise a boy. How about we just drown the tyke. He only has a mom… obviously never going to make it.”

Do you honestly believe that no single women in the history of our civilization has managed to raise a boy? Give me a freaking break. There are a ton of highly successful men in this world who were raised by their mothers or highly successful women raised by their fathers alone.

Of COURSE it would be easier with help. Of COURSE it is easier with more money. Of COURSE we’d LOVE it if we could have fixed things or gotten more for our kids.

Do you earn $150,000.00 per year and have two teen boys who have never been in jail, no trouble, no pregnant girlfriends? I work my a$$ off to ensure my boys have what they do AND earn what they get. They have jobs and respect for their neighbors (oh, and Women too).

GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE.

MORONS…
GJ_Jehosaphat said, 14 days ago

This just in - another shooting - this time in Orlando Office Building: From the Orlando Sentinel - updated 1pm EST

Two dead after shooting reported in downtown Orlando
mroberts88 said, 14 days ago

David, the only people who would register guns, would be the law abiding. Gun control would then happen, in which case, the predators, those who are going to break the law regardless, would have more power over the prey, those who follow laws.

National registering and licsensing of guns is idiotic,as it will lead to gun control, which will lead to more crime.
Jae'da said, 14 days ago
“Marriage in the world. If it was used for land only it would not have lasted over three thousand years in just about every major culture in the world”
- Again, many cultures also have a “one-to-many” concept of marriage where one man (or in one or two very minute cultures, one woman) can marry multiple women [or men]. Many Biblical and royal examples were for politics and acquisitions. If anything it’s insulting to state that a marriage between two people of the same sex cannot produce a perfectly normal child. After all, by and large, gay and transgendered children are the result of straight families.
- Looking at this another way, perhaps instead of trying to instill socio-normative stereotypes on people perhaps we should allow people to grow up as they want to. Men can cry and women can speak up for themselves. Our behavior is both the result of nature AND nurture. There is no guarantee for any one individual that raising a man with effeminate (woman or otherwise) role-models necessarily means that the individual will be ineffectively ‘manly,’ just like technically just because you grunt and spit and kick puppies that the individual will grow up to be a completely violent jerk. There’s a good chance, but there’s always a chance of something happening.
- Gay families do occur in nature. Two males or two females do raise children.
- By the way, in my opinion, outside of military use[*], guns are the weapons of cowards. All you do is point it at someone and pull the trigger. It’s too easy to do intentionally and on accident. It’s too easy for one person to annihilate so many other people. Unfortunately everyone feels they have to have one to be safe. And then everyone gets a gun and no one is safe. And then people feel they should have the right to carry their gun everywhere, for their own “safety.” Waving assault rifles near our President, and being able to walk onto a military base with civilian guns and shooting up a processing building. You’re never safe. I’m happier without a gun.
- Includes police & security officers, see next post.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, 14 days ago

mrob - Just call me GJ - I’m listening to CNN as I’m writing this comment. 1 person confirmed dead & 7 wounded but the gun man is still on the loose.

I couldn’t imagine the terror of folks still in the office building hiding behind closed doors. Personally, I would wait for the police/swat teams to do their job. NO WAY would I want to be holding a gun while police are looking for “A Shooter”. I’d want to be looking as innocent as I could while keeping my cool.
mroberts88 said, 14 days ago

GJ, nothing wrong with looking innocent. I’d have a gun ready in case the shooter went into my office. However, I’d have whatever it took to make me look all the more innocent. Do they know what the shooter looks like?

jae, when was an assault weapon waved at the president? If someone has a gun, and is threatening my life, I’ll take a gun. You said outside of military use, so what about cops? They have a dangerous job, where people will kill them if given the chance, are they cowards for packing?
My2Cents said, 14 days ago

@wsfn

Waaa…waaa…waaaa.

Me…me…me.

Just when did Americans become so self-absorbed and narcissistic?

You chose to get married.

You chose to have kids.

You have a social responsibility and obligation to rear those children to adulthood.

It’s not about you anymore.

Being married and having a family is tough. Nobody said it was easy.

Once you make that choice, however, your wants and needs are supplanted by a greater responsibility that demands selflessness and sacrifice.

Oh, yeah, I’ll get off my high horse when you toss away the cryin’ towel.
jack75287 said, 14 days ago

wsfn

I believe that is what every one here said.

Jae’da

I don’t understand your statement. Gay familes do occur in nature: they cannot produce children they may adopt but that is not in nature. Don’t get me worng adoption is great but no not nature.

As for the biblical reference that was in the old testement mostly. Islamic tradition alows up to four wifes yes but look at the problems that causes.

One man marries then puts her up in a little business like a bakery or a flower shop. Then a second wife and dose the same thing then a third. I saw this first hand in Iraq, that is how they aford all those families. The wifes run the businesses and the husband own them. Not a good situation for the women.

Then that leaves others with no chance of getting a wife. No wonder they hate the world so much and want to blow them selfs up but that is a different point.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, 14 days ago

Gun man was caught at his Mom’s house - according to CNN. Much speculation as to WHY? Most talk was about his losing his job (poor performance) 2 years ago.

We will have to wait to see if his mother was a SINGLE MOM making Carl Moore a “Prophet (Profit) Our Times”. Now that’s a sorry “State of the Union”…
mroberts88 said, 14 days ago

GJ, that is interesting. How did a suspect leave the scene, and make it to his mothers house. Why did he wait so long to do this. Alot of unanswered questions, but that is what happens with crime scenes. Good job to the police for ending it, my thoughts and prayers are with the victims, and those involved in the office building.
eaglesofwar said, 14 days ago

Dow, GJ and wndrwthy must be three homosexual lovers.

By the way the Muslim that killed his fellow Army of one soldiers was a mental health doctor (bang your head).

Guns are not allowed on the bases except by law enforcement and secured areas.
Everyone was a sitting duck for a coward Muslims wrath.

He may have been upset because Obama would not put on his old Muslim outfit and take a picture with him.

He also did not want to go in harms way. He was sitting on a base for 6 years practicing his terrorism religion.
hookedoncomics said, 14 days ago

Thank you wfsn, and my2cents, you are just plain mean. that wasn’t whining, just an honest opinion, as every other commentor did. Give the person a break.
My2Cents said, 14 days ago

@hookedoncomics

Mean? You didn’t notice that wsfn called people idiots and morons?

Boo, hoo. Are you hooked on anything else?
Jae'da said, 14 days ago
“jae, when was an assault weapon waved at the president? If someone has a gun, and is threatening my life, I’ll take a gun. You said outside of military use, so what about cops? They have a dangerous job, where people will kill them if given the chance, are they cowards for packing?”
- I will correct my statement to make it more legible, by “military use” I include police in that because I would treat them with the same respect as the military and should be armed as necessary to fight their battles and protect themselves while conducting lawful business.
- You take your gun. I’m not saying you can’t have your gun. It’s not my right to take your gun. I don’t want one. If anything, in self-defense I would hesitate and I would only end up more likely to get shot because the assailant would see me as a threat. On the other hand there’s the feeling of superiority when you’re armed meaning you’re more likely to attempt a violent solution to a problem. If someone tried to commit an armed robbery on you and you are in possession of a gun, you are more likely to use it, correct? While it is true that most armed criminals are cowardly and will not attack armed opponents, there’s also the chance that they’ll also “defend” themselves by attacking because now they realize that you’re a threat. Two reasons I’ll take my chances without one. If I end up in a paper killed in an armed assault, well then you can grab this post and say “should’ve been packing.”
- As for the “waving assault weapons at the President” were you not paying attention to the news coverage of the people who show up to Presidental functions with with their assault weapons just “because they can.” More it’s because they think Obama’s “gunna took thur gunz.” It’s stupid and disrespectful to the President. I don’t think anyone but the Secret Service should be armed near the President. It’s the President! Even as much as I didn’t like Bush, I wouldn’t cheer any liberal waltzing around his appearances with guns. That’s a veiled threat, in my opinion.
“He may have been upset because Obama would not put on his old Muslim outfit and take a picture with him.”
- The initial suspicion I have read is that he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan and didn’t want to go, especially after hearing all of the horrible stories “every day” from people who had been there. But … I mean… to think that someone that died yesterday probably had been over there, just got home and felt like they were finally safe and were going to go see their family after some nuts have been trying to blow them up day in and day out … and then gets killed by a coward spraying up the processing building. These’re supposed to be the people you can trust.
jack75287 said, 14 days ago

eaglesofwar

As for guns not allowed on base. You are right weapons are locked up when not used for training. More times then not they have blank adapters on them and when they go to the range they come back clean them and store them.

Privately owned weapons stay in the home or if they live in the Barracks in the Arms room. Take to shoot take it to off post and back on don’t stop at the PX. End of story.

When I was stationed at Ft. Knox they had this big deal with old weapons showing off real antiques and firing them. All owned by soldiers and locals it was an annual event. It was around for years well a new post commander came on post and said No to dangerous so it was gone. Now if one of those young bucks had so much as a side arm a lot of good people would not be hurt.

Thank god for the lady police officer, don’t know why she was on post but I am glad she was.

PS: If you keep going after Davie remember he likes to change his name from time to time so he will come back and use something you say against you.
Jae'da said, 14 days ago
“Gay familes do occur in nature: they cannot produce children they may adopt but that is not in nature.”
- Neither can sterile couples. Sterility certainly occurs in nature.
“As for the biblical reference that was in the old testement mostly. Islamic tradition alows up to four wifes yes but look at the problems that causes.”
- Yes, but see, if true, then Biblical references can count as examples of marriage practices of the time: where a king could “marry” a woman, but possess as many concubines as he saw fit. That’s certainly not sanctimonious by today’s standards. Several examples of that in the Old Testament.
- And regardless of how problematic it is… it is still an example of how lacking the position that “marriage has always been ‘between one man and one woman’” argument has been.
- And regardless also… it doesn’t matter because Marriage isn’t a church matter anymore, at least not here. Legal benefits are tied to it. Once it is not a religious matter, religion shouldn’t be able to deny it as a right [since it is law] to others. After all, everyone pays taxes. We pay taxes for married couples to get tax breaks. So if we pay taxes for it, then those rights shouldn’t be withheld from those that seek them. Unless you give equivalent compensation.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, 14 days ago

OK - I’m back to “Focus” on today’s strip - Single Moms & Missing Fathers. Who has been in the news the past couple of weeks - Levi Johnston (famous for almost being “You Know Who’s Son-in-Law”). I don’t pay attention to what’s been happening in the tabloids (like Carl must to get his topics).

BTW - Guess for some folks - it’s better to be a “Single Mom” than to marry some dude who happened to fertilize your egg. So much for MARRIAGE when it’s your own daughter & she dated someone U consider a liar…
DavidDow said, 14 days ago

Jae’da, well said. Congratulations on your successful & thriving marriage.

Chrisn, thanks back atcha for your replies, but I am afraid that your notions of psychology are incorrect. Nurturing men are hardly exceptions. In addition, your generalities are almost useless in understanding American society. If you divorce income & class environment from the studies of children growing up with hetero-parents, homo-parents, or single parents, then the children have practically equal chances of succeeding as adolescents or young adults or not succeeding. Human beings’ genders speak extremely little about how they will parent.

I agree that we must help encourage young men to be less violent. However, tighter control of the weapons will certainly mean fewer deaths. Again: look at the story out of Albuquerque mentioned above.

I wish that I had more time to opine, but I gave myself five minutes before returning to tasks, and the five minutes ended two minutes ago.

P.S. to Eagleso, though: Keep your fantasy life out of the forum, please.
mroberts88 said, 14 days ago

David, the problem is, that alot of weapons are obtained illegally. The problem won’t go away by making life harder on the law abiding.

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