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1. 

   mroberts88 said, 22 days ago

   Diplomacy is a weapon. It must be used, or we will stretch our troops thin.

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   Kees said, 22 days ago

   ………….even a “little” empty headed.
   If this cartoon comes out in print as well, let’s hope it’s on recyclable paper, or even better, on toilet paper.

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   HUMPHRIES said, 22 days ago

   A real grip on the situation Mr Moore has, indeed.

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   scottfreitas said, 22 days ago

   Osama is always willing to talk with evil, bullying dictators… but wont talk to anyone on Fox News.

   Yeah, he’s street-rat crazy, alright. :/

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   sablebrush5 said, 22 days ago

   Obama has offered Iran an open hand and the result - nada. Iran continues to play diplomatic games with Obama and the West while the centrifuges keep on spinning. It is only a matter of time until Iran has the bomb. Obama is naive at best if he thinks otherwise. Iran knows it. Europe knows it. Even the stupid U.N. knows it. Israel will attack Iran within two years.

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   Lewreader said, 21 days ago

   As Rodney King said (after he endangered pedestrians, drivers, police and himself in a long car chase), “Can’t we just get along?” We got nukes, why shouldn’t they? Come On, Fair’s fair.. Now go out there and share with the neighborhood bully. I’m sure you’ll be good friends.

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   jack75287 said, 21 days ago

   I don’t know why Obama even bothers. Iran has messed with every president sense Carter.

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   bartbuzz said, 21 days ago

   The blind leading the blinder.

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   SQUIDBREAKER said, 21 days ago

   George is a champion of ‘all talk and no substance’ which is why he recognizes it so easily.

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    pschearer said, 21 days ago

    Not only are the centrifuges still spinning, Sable, but we have negotiated a deal in which Russia has agreed to enrich Iran’s existing uranium stockpile on the pretense it is for an old reactor for making medical isotopes.

    This will cut months or maybe years off Iran’s nuclear weapon timetable. How suicidal are we becoming?

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    amberdextrose said, 21 days ago

    We just watched the Bushie’s bungle North Korea for eight years and now the problem is Iran? Give me a few moments to rest my aching ribs.

    Anyone who believes that the Iranians will use a nuke on their enemies also believes that commies are hiding under their beds, that Viet Nam was ever in danger of succumbing to the Domino Theory and that Iraq is awash in WMD/s.

    Quit buying the threat of death promulgated by war profiteers. Relax. We have adults running the country now.

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    blacknight11 said, 21 days ago

    we can always test it if we send nukes. if they have nukes the explosion will be bigger.

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    JanCinVV said, 21 days ago

    amberdextrose: take your meds.
    Again you are categorizing something with which you don’t agree in with obvious fallacies in an attempt to trivialize it.
    
    Of course Iran is working on nuclear weapons. President “A” has publicly stated that he will wipe Israel off the map and that he wants to start a world war in order to fulfill his version of Islam. What in those two statements makes you believe he doesn’t want nukes?

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    jack75287 said, 21 days ago

    amberdextrose

    I would agree with you but for several points. A lot of these guys want to die for Allah. We will never know when one of them will have there finger on the button. Iran has attacked this country every chance they get so why will they stop with an Atomic Bomb even if we can retaliate.

    Yes they will try to infiltrate us from with in like they have done in Europe but Iran would not think twice from placing a bomb in a container ship if it means they can take out New York the financial capital of the world.

    The Soviet Union always in the end worked for self preservation. Which mean they were always useless to anyone? Iran works for Islamic domination under there control maybe but they are useful to al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas and any group that wants to cause the west trouble.

    Iran can make a bomb and give it to one of these organization and then again place it in a container ship and bye bye big apple.

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    Ian Valenzuela said, 21 days ago

    As opposed to before, when it was bloviating, posturing, and (in secret) capitulating to the oil interests.

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    SQUIDBREAKER said, 21 days ago

    @brownsugar/amberdextrose:

    How did the Bushies bungle North Korea? I have yet to see any destruction in our nation by North Korea.

    Any chance North Korea is just playing defense and aren’t really interested in offense? You still have to test your defense to MAKE SURE IT WORKS IF YOU NEED IT! Oddly, NK tested when WHO was president of the U.S.? That answer tells you who even NK thinks is the bigger offensive threat.

    We could learn a lesson or two from that. ‘Adults’ running the country means nothing - we need righteous and honest adults running the country.
    That ain’t happening now - is it?

    A.

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    ChuckTrent64 said, 21 days ago

    Carl Moore is very good at filling up four panels with more meaningless mumbo jumbo with no roots in reality than any cartoonist I’ve ever seen. Even McCoy only fills up one meaningless, false & misleading panel at a time. It’s a waste of news print.

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    pschearer said, 21 days ago

    Amberdextrose (does that mean Brown Sugar?):

    You trust Ahmadinejad with nukes? I didn’t know they made rose-colored glasses so thick you can’t see through them.

    No WMDs in Iraq? Not after Saddam had plenty of time to get rid of his poison gas after he realized he could not stop an invasion, but the Kurds certainly know he had them.

    No Domino Theory in southeast Asia? Tell it to the victims of Pol Pot’s Killing Fields.

    Did Bush bungle N. Korea? Absolutely, just like we continue to do.

    Commies under our beds? No, just in the Manhattan Project, the Army, the Treasury, and the State Department as shown by the KGB archives.

    But the thing that made MY ribs ache, was the ancient Red chestnut about war profiteers. But maybe I shouldn’t be surprised. I’ve been reading that the Old Left is making a comeback because of disappointment that Obama hasn’t nationalized the entire economy yet. There’s not been enough change they can believe in.

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    getmoreatp said, 21 days ago

    @amberdextrose (Comment #2):
    What’s so special about home-schooled people?
    Disclaimer: I’m home-schooled.

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    BirishB said, 21 days ago

    I love popping into this page every so often to see how history has been rewritten.

    Jack … I must have been asleep that day in history class when they talked about the Iranian invasion of the US. Thanks for letting me know that “Iran has attacked this country every chance they get so why will they stop with an Atomic Bomb even if we can retaliate.”

    Courtesy of … Emet … we know now that Bush did not undo 8 years of negotiations and opt out of a nuclear nonproliferation agreement with North Korea. And we know that the famed “Axis of Evil” speech did not spur N Korea back into nuclear proliferation. Nope … that needless shot fired across the bow by Bush the 84th did not make us a powerful enemy in the Asian theater and certainly did not distract our diplomatic concerns that were concentrated in the Middle East.

    But courtesy of pschearer … we know that we continue to bungle N Korea. Right. Those 8 years of needless, senseless antagonism should certainly have been undone by now. And because Obama is unable to do the harm done by Bush, then he is “bungling” a situation and not stuck with a diplomatic nightmare.

    And for that Domino effect in SE Asia … well, actual history tells us that US-backed forces expelled the Cambodian government fighting Mr Pol Pot into submission; those governmental forces joined with Pol Pot to battle the US. In retaliation, the US bombed the bejesus out of Cambodia and N Vietnam, causing large displacement into Cambodia, so much so that the Cambodian people slipped into a Stockholm syndrome: the enemy of the force killing my friends shall be my friend. It was the Cambodian-Pol Pot alliance that walked into power in Cambodia and freely made cross-border attacks on US military, political and strategic instillations in South Vietnam; and it was that tide offensive that caused the pull out of Saigon in August 1975. In other words, US backed forces antagonized a relatively meaningless insurgency, deposed a stable sovereign power who later joined that insurgency, and it was that new alliance that eventually doomed the US in Vietnam. So, not only was there no threat of the the Red Domino Theory in Vietnam … there was no threat until the US set up the very dominoes that fell on top of itself.

    Interestingly, knocking down Afghanistan and destabilizing operations in Iraq; antagonizing an insurgency to join forces with former enemies (Hammas, Iran, Iraq) against a common enemy (US) … all sounds rather familiar.

    I guess Santayana was wrong. Those who do not know history are not doomed to repeat it. Instead, those who don’t know history just rewrite it, make the same mistakes, and then claim that zero precedent was available upon which to base wiser decisions.

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    mroberts88 said, 21 days ago

    amberdextrose, the president of Iran has stated he wants to wipe Israel off the map. If he gets a nuke, why wouldnt he nuke Israel?

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    Radical-Knight said, 21 days ago

    What amuses me daily about SOTU is the number of babies that constantly return to cry and complain about a cartoon. BOO-HOO!!! XD

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    Ronshua said, 21 days ago

    mroberts88 ….Here’s one good sized reason .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domeof_theRock

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    mroberts88 said, 21 days ago

    Ronshua, the dome of the rock, that is a good reason. However, he may nuke another nation.

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    scottfreitas said, 21 days ago

    Personally, I think the ultimate political graphic novel would be written by Carl Moore and drawn by Glenn McCoy. They’d probably make millions together!

    Obviously, Osama would be the evil supervillian featured. Not sure who the heroes would be though, since the GOP has distanced itself from everyone to the right of John McCain ever since it betrayed Newt Gingrich…

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    jack75287 said, 21 days ago

    Scott

    Honest this is the first time I have ever heard of a betrayal of Newt Gingrich. Please tell me more.

    BirishB

    I don’t know how old you are but
    79 Iran took American hostages. In the mid 80 took more hostages that led to Iran Contra and mined the Persian Gulf to force the cost of oil up in our country. In the 90 Iran started supplying Terrorist organizations to hurt us and Israel. In this decade they supplied IED to insurgents in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

    So please explain were did I rewrite history? Just because some one expresses a different opinion is no reason to insult anyone also just because they cannot attack us directly dose not mean that Iran cannot attack us. Also you have accused me in the past of starting trouble please remember this. Thank you!

    And I almost forgot no one said anything about an invasion except you.

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    BirishB said, 21 days ago

    jack …

    “iranian separatist” does not equal “iran” … iranian separatists took us hostages; the government of iran did not.

    by your logic, the US attacked oklahoma city because separatists tim mcveigh and terry nichols, who happened to be americans, blew up a federal building.

    is iran a big problem? yes. but iran has never directly attacked the us, which would be a declaration of war. has iran funded terrorist organizations? probably. but the validity of that evidence is undermined by the stack of lies that poured out of our diplomatic efforts over the past decade. i think iran has given safe harbor to terrorist organizations that attack americans; but to say that “iran has attacked this country every chance they get” is … well … wrong, as in not factual. that’s not opinion, either.

    oh … iran mined the persian gulf? yes. because we were backing iraq in their war against iran (thank reagan and bush 81 for that). iran did not lay mines in the persian gulf to “force the cost of oil up in our country.” that is another misstatement of fact. iran layed mines to destroy kuwaiti oil tankers and as a strategic military offensive against iraq; sadly, a us warship that was escorting kuwaiti tankers became ancillary damage. the us retaliated, reseized the gulf, brokered a truce, and handed control back to iraq … WE GAVE THE GULF TO SADAAM HUSSEIN. we also gave sadaam chemical weapons that he would later use against the kurds. iraq, btw, was the aggressor (provocateur) in that war; but by 1989, bush 81 was declaring that long term partnership with iraq was in the us best interest. maybe reagan was wrong, eh? maybe we were poking a bear in the zoo with iran?

    i didn’t insult you. i said that you were wrong on the facts. and that is troubling.

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    Jim said, 21 days ago

    meh .

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    Contrarian said, 21 days ago

    From the U.S. Department of State:

    Iran remains the most active state sponsor of terrorism.

    Iran is a principal supporter of terrorist organizations including Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestine Islamic Jihad.

    True, Iran has not attacked the United States directly; but their proxy, Hezbollah, had killed more Americans–prior to 9/11–than any other terrorist organization.

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    ReFlex-76 said, 21 days ago

    So, points:

    
    

    • No WMDs in Iraq.

    
    

    • The Kurd thing was way back in 1989; the Kurds, in fact, have been effectively free in Iraq since at least 1995.

    
    

    • Israel has +200 nuclear warheads, so for all their talk, Iran doesn’t dare touch.

    
    

    • Sending their material to Russia to be enriched actually guarantees it’ll be for “safe” reasons because it’ll be somebody else doing it.

    
    

    • Ahmedinejad (not even the real power in Iran) has to watch his step, lest he risk a public rebellion which would make the Green Revolution look like a town hall meeting.

    
    

    • North Korea, whose missiles can’t even reach Japan, has never posed a credible threat.

    
    

    • Pol Pot’s rise had less to do with “The Domino Theory,” and almost everything to do with American intervention.

    
    

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    jack75287 said, 21 days ago

    BrishB

    Said:

    “iranian separatist” does not equal “iran” … iranian separatists took us hostages; the government of iran did not”.

    I have never heard the word Separatist related the Iran’s Revolution. A separatist is a person who steps away from a government not take it over.

    Feel free to compare Tim McVeigh to Iran all you want it will not work. Iran took over a government and there so called students took our hostages the Ahtolla’s did nothing to stop it till Reagan told them to. So yes that makes it the government.

    As for your other comments. Iran is a nation stae and should act as one. It is not never has. Those mines took out a lot of ships not just U.S. Every super tanker country in the world was at risk.

    You also tried to confuse the issue again by saying now directly. I never gave any detail as to how they attacked us. Again that was you. I did not give any detail because after 30 years of this stuff it doesn’t matter. It is time for you to decide what side you are on.

    I have been to Iraq and I have seen first hand how half mesures has gotten us in to this mess.

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    mroberts88 said, 21 days ago

    Reflex, South Korea is in range, and we have troops there. That, and the man is street rat crazy.

    How do you know how many nukes israel has? Please back this up.

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    Noreen Klose said, 21 days ago

    Diplomacy does NOT work when the heads of the States that are negotiating are lying through their teeth. Most politicians are lying, cheating scumbags! Their only agenda is to keep themselves in office- - -the “self-styled elite”. The fact that they say that they care for “the little guy”, is a BIG FAT LIE.

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    Ronshua said, 21 days ago

    mroberts88….Yes they could “nuke another nation.”

    Help me out here , how does the verse go ?
    “Let me count the ways”……….of retaliation .
    These people follow a Religion with some barbaric doctrines .
    However Islamic leaders are not senile imbeciles .

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    ReFlex-76 said, 21 days ago

    Israeli nuclear weapons: one of the world’s worst-kept secrets! (yes, they still officially deny it; common wisdom puts the current number at around 200 warheads):

    http://csis.org/files/media/csis/pubs/090316_israelistrikeiran.pdf

    http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

    Last I heard, South Korea is not the United States; still, being a US ally means any attack on them would mean full retaliation from the US, the US itself never being touched.

    If anything, this sound like yet another reason to pull US troops out of South Korea; they certainly have enough money for their own military, without freeloading off of us.

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    mroberts88 said, 21 days ago

    Ronshua, you are talking about religous extremists who dont care whether they live or die. The only thing they care about is how many “infidels” they kill.

    Reflex, the Israeli numbers are an estimate. That means they dont really know how many Israel has.

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    Ronshua said, 21 days ago

    mroberts88…Having read the Muslim Mein Kampf . I understand the premise completely. General Pershing to my knowledge , improvised the only successful slow down of the relentless onslaught .

    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

    Scraping what remains of the conquered earth from the bottom of a bar-b-que pit , isn’t in the book .

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    Ronshua said, 21 days ago

    ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Rebellion

    On February 1, 1906, Major. Gen. Tasker H. Bliss replaced General Wood as the commander of the Department of Mindanao-Jolo, and replaced him as governor of Moro Province sometime after the First Battle of Bud Dajo. Bliss’ tenure is regarded as a “peace era,” and Bliss launched no punitive expeditions during his term in office. However, this superficial peace came at the price of tolerating a certain amount of lawlessness. Constabulary forces in pursuit of Moro fugitives often found themselves forced to abandon their chase after the fugitives took refuge at their home cottas. The constabulary forces were outnumbered, and a much larger (and disruptive) expedition would have been required to dislodge the fugitives from their hiding place. However, this period also demonstrated the success of new aggressive American tactics. According to Rear Admiral D.P. Mannix who fought the Moros as a young lieutenant from 1907-1908, the Americans resorted to the extreme measure of wrapping dead Moros in pig’s skin and “stuffing his mouth with pork” thereby creating a religious “defilement.” By inference this eventually deterred the Moros from continuing with their suicide attacking tactics.[8] On November 11, 1909, Major General John J. Pershing, the third and final military governor of Moro Province assumed his duties.
    [edit] Reforms

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    ReFlex-76 said, 19 days ago

    Point being: Israel has nukes, plenty of ‘em!