State of the Union by Carl Moore

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mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

Like I said before, people shouldnt be forced into a healthcare plan that they dont want. However, if they cant pay for a health plan themselves, then they should be on the health care plan. So, that being said, are people begining to think I’m a liberal?
slug_queen said, about 1 month ago

Hey, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings, and you don’t hear me warming up…
sablebrush5 said, about 1 month ago

Hmmm… seems Mr. Obama speaks with forked tongue.
Norman said, about 1 month ago

He couldn’t tell the truth if it slapped him the head. He is a congenital liar.
pschearer said, about 1 month ago

I read a disturbing account the other day about the long-range strategy of the White House: to use the health-care bill to permanently emasculate the GOP. Once any version is passed, government-run healthcare will, like Social Security and Medicare, become impossible ever to undo.

This will reduce the Republicans to forever arguing that THEY can run a socialist government more efficiently than the Democrats. No matter who wins any given election, the Left will always win.
DavidDow said, about 1 month ago

Continuing from yesterday:

Mrob., regressives who could not survive without all the protections our government provides invented the term “nanny state” in a spasm of self-loathing. Do not worry: There is no such thing. I agree with you that no one should lack health care and that we must remain a land of opportunity. Congress’s health-care plans take a large step toward ensuring the former w/out in the slightest endangering the latter.

Contrarian, if you cannot afford car, internet, cable t.v., & health insurance, then how will you pay for school? If you have no car, how will you get a second job? Our nation was built by grants from royalty to wealthy suck-ups who then paid others to invade & wipe out the natives. The pioneering, can-do, et cetera is a myth created after the Civil war as a means of unifying a divided land. P.s.: There is no Santa Claus either.

Striper, you make my points. Thank you. What a load of name-calling. Jesus is dead, too, but there’s still plenty o’ folk calling themselves Christians. Thus, R.J. Rushdoony & Jerry Falwell have legacies that outlive them. I am glad to read that you consider Bush-Dick a good president. He was one of the worst, but your viewpoint on that—along with the hysteria & shortsightedness—demonstrates that one need not attend to your remarks.

Mrob., I commend you for trying to reason with Striper. You can see that his remarks are laced with ignorant bigotry, so, I would consider your efforts a losing battle, but it is good of you to try. I tried to reason with him months ago. Now, reading yesterday’s remarks, I recall that I shouldn’t bother.

As for your thoughts on the Second Amendment, Mrob., it’s not as simple as anyone being for or against it. There are many different interpretations of it, and you will find people of all political stripes holding widely varying interpretations of it.

I agree with you that in some neighborhoods, gangs are a serious problem, and guns make gangs in a serious problem. The problem of gangs stems from racial & ethnic bigotry, class warfare against the impoverished, & enormous income disparity. When young people see no future before them and see a dangerous community around them, then they join gangs. It is actually, within those parameters, a reasonable decision. Thus, we need to increase police presence & society’s presence in impoverished areas, and offer low-income housing in middle-class & upper-middle-class neighborhoods. Gangs are worse when the comfortable & the impoverished are physically separate.

Richter, please stop these shallow, incorrect views of the American past.

Ronshua, please stop plagiarizing from other websites, whether accurate or—as here—inaccurate. England has serious gun control. How many have been “rounded up” there?
Your “facts” are highly distorted & too simplistic. Germany actually had stricter gun control laws before the Nazis took power. The Nazis loosened the gun-control laws. Besides, let us say that individuals in Germany had guns in 1935, which they did. Do you think that would have stopped the Nazis from taking the Jews & Romany (almost all of whom had guns) to concentration camps? Yes, a few Nazi police & soldiers might have been shot, wounded, killed, but that would have lead to more killing of Jews & Romany, not less.

Today:

Mrob., I agree with you about health-care. Don’t worry about labels. Look at what is best for people and promote that. Sometimes your views will be conservative, sometimes liberal, sometimes radical, sometimes progressive. Thus, you will be a thinking human being.

Pschear, the Republicans don’t need the Democrats to emasculate them. With leaders like Limbaugh, they already have no balls left.
murph0613 said, about 1 month ago

DavidDow, you are a blowhard. Please find a blog to post your rantings. You’re filling my comics page with crap. Post your garbage somewhere where it’s welcome and people only go there and voluntarily see it. This is a comics site, not your soapbox.

Why don’t you run for President? You seem to know everything and have all the answers. You even seem to know how history will interpret current events - wow you’re smart! You must be rich, because certainly someone as intelligent as you claim to be has figured out a way to make quite a life for himself.

Why don’t you take all of that money you’ve amassed, all of that amazing intellect that you claim to possess, and start your own site? Leave the rest of us “emasculated” idiots alone so we can read our comics and enjoy them without being forced to read your “intelligent” discourse (which, by the way, is extremely myopic, one-sided and closed-minded). You are guilty of exactly what you accuse others of. Take a good look in the mirror before you start going after others.

I’m so glad that the truth of Moore’s comics raises your blood pressure. Please leave mine alone.
striper77 said, about 1 month ago

Mr. Roberts,

We were having dialoged yesterday and rrichhter asked you a question on gun control. As you mentioned I stated
Mr. Roboto,
You did not ask me the question on guns. But it is an easy on.
I was reviewing to his aviator. To make things more clear I should of called him by his aviator name or Iron man or whatever the picture was.
Mr. Roboto was a song by Styx back in the 80’s.
Lewreader said, about 1 month ago

DavidDow You attacked me lat week for attacking the “poor and childbearing” The reason “the rich get richer and the poor get children” is because the rich are willing to put off family life by working 16 hour days until they are able to raise a family in a decent life.

This is called sacrifice. Some 16 year old drops out of school to make a quick buck pumping gasoline has no right to complain over lifelong poverty. The other student puts in another 10 years in school, owes $50,000 in student loans, and puts off children until his/her thirties deserves the reward they earn.

Do I believe in the Amereican Dream? Do I believe in hard work? Borrow $500 on a dream and ask Bill Gates.
jack75287 said, about 1 month ago

Todays strip is great. Instead of giving truth to power it gives power to the truth. Something it should have had already.

David I am very sorry for you. Please remember this whole strip isn’t about you.

Oh and David I cannot speak for all of Germany’s gun control laws but before Hitler’s one and only election they did not register all guns. After his election they register all personally owned weapons and then took them from the people.
ReFlex-76 said, about 1 month ago

Yet another reason a single-payer solution would be better; just call it Medicare-for-all, as that’s what it would be.

As for an “emasculated Republican Party,” it’s a simple matter of admitting they’re wrong, and accepting universal health care as it is accepted in every other industrialized nation. It’s time to realize the “socialism bad” mentality is a McCarthy-ite relic of the 1950s, and that some socialism can be downright good for society (schools, roads, libraries, firefighters, police, sewage, water, etc.).

Oh, and bills can be amended; this purchase requirement sounds like the sort of thing that gets taken out before a final vote.
harleyquinn said, about 1 month ago

Lets not forget the brand new powers it will grant the IRS!
DavidDow said, about 1 month ago

Ah, Lew, if only life were that simple. Actually, the best predictor of your wealth & class status is your parents’ wealth & class status. If you were born impoverished, then the odds are that you will live impoverished. If you were born into the proletariat, then the odds are that you will remain in the proletariat. If you were born into the middle class, then the odds are that you will remain in the middle class. If you were born in the upper-middle class, then the odds are that you will remain in the upper-middle class. Everyone can cite individual instances of people coming from poverty & raising themselves into wealth. Everyone could cite instances of people coming from wealth and ending in poverty. The individual anecdotes are not as relevant as the trends & statistics. Almost everyone in poverty works very hard for very little money. Please remove your delusions & read Barbara Ehrenreich’s NICKEL & DIMED. There are millions of Americans earning minimum wage & barely scraping by.

As for having children, yes, the proletariat & the impoverished have more children than do the middle-class. There are many reasons for this: They have the worst educations; thus, they see few opportunities besides having families. They have the worst sex education and worst access to contraception and to abortion clinics; thus, they have a higher number of accidental pregnancies. They compensate for other inadequacies in their lives by having children. There are higher rates of sexual abuse & rape of women among the impoverished. Thus, they have more children. Many more reasons, but I gave myself five minutes to write, and I am already overtime.
mytinytown said, about 1 month ago

I never knew our Declaration of Independence said, we have the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and healthcare.
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mytinytown said, about 1 month ago

murph0613
I find what you said about David AKA Mathew very truthful. He is extremely narrow minded and he LOVES to put words in peoples mouths, but get VERY angry when you do it to him. I do my best to ignore most of what he says.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, about 1 month ago

mytinytown - So U ignore the one man who’s asked how your wife & child R doing? He’s been the only one to query how Gracie has been since your wife’s scheduled C-Section.

So I’ll ask - how are you & your family doing? Hope all went well & she is bringing joy to your life.
Jim said, about 1 month ago

Howdy mroberts88 .
worldisacomic said, about 1 month ago

Hey Tony Dow! Get a LIFE. Its just a comic strip not MSNBC!
mytinytown said, about 1 month ago

GJ_Jehosaphat
I ignore MOST of what he says. As well we are talking politics, about personal stuff is a different subject. Should have made my post a little clearer, sorry.
They are doing very well, the “C” section went good and she is recovering the fastest of the 3 she had. Gracie is doing very good too. She was 9 pounds 14.8 ounces at birth and about 11pounds right now. Thank you for asking.
mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

Hi jim, do I know you from another strip?

David, I saw that striper was a bigot when I got into the chat with him last night. Learned my lesson. Gangs are a problem because of the reason you said, they see no other way out. They join because they want to get money, and respect. I think if they had alternatives, gangs would lose their power over the youth.

mytinytown, how is your wife and kid?

Striper, I’ve heard of that song.

pschearer, are the GOP that weak where that would “emasculate” them? They would probably move on to something else.

A nation must take care of all its citizens, even those who can’t help themselves. Everyone deserves healthcare, at worst decent healthcare.

To everyone saying Obama has lied. He’s a censored politician.They lie. G.W. Bush passed the Patriot Act, an unconstitutional act because of the warrantless wiretapping.
Contrarian said, about 1 month ago

DavidDow asked: Contrarian, if you cannot afford a car, how will you pay for school?

Thank you, Lewreader, for answering that question:

Sacrifice and hard work.

David, I took the bus to work every morning at 6 A.M. (On the weekends, my second job started at 2 A.M.)

At 4 P.M. each day, the bus took me from work to school.

I’d be home by 10 P.M., and stay up until 1 A.M. doing homework.

It’s called a work ethic. My grandparents and parents taught me this.

My Siouan great grandmother would tell me, “Teetonka, always believe and never stop trying.”

She never blamed the white man for destroying her native culture, unlike the crescendo of liberal whinybacks who are always complaing about this or that.

David, it’s all about strength of character, integrity and perseverance. I’m sorry if you don’t understand the concept.

Sometimes, I find your posts very disturbing.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, about 1 month ago

Thanks mytinytown - it’s been a bit rough in SOTU comments the past couple of days - I’ve been busy doing some painting & cleaning projects but pop in on occasions.

I’ve been posting comments since June & I have seen times when “the political sparring gloves” come off & people show concern for others. DavidDow is one of those folks who shows compassion for others - unlike some of the regular commentors who have their own agenda to rant about (like Stripper77).

Personally I’m getting tired of the Health Care Reform debate & am in favor Single Payer System.

Take out the costs the middleman (Insurance Companies) require to process claims (pay or reject) and make it easier for Medical System (Doctors, Hospitals, Etc) to function smooth and efficient. Less hassles would mean more time to see patients & money saved would reduce costs. A Win/Win situation for US!
BirishB said, about 1 month ago

mytinytown said:

I never knew our Declaration of Independence said, we have the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and healthcare.

You are correct … the Declaration of Independence does not mention healthcare. But as you point out … it does say we have a right to life.

(we’ll leave out the fact that modern medicine and healthcare was not even invented at the time)

Interestingly, that statement was taken from a French political philosophy that said each man had an inalienable right to life, liberty and property. The authors of the Declaration, not wanting to confer land rights to slaves, did a bit of editing.

What the Declaration did was establish a nation. The governing principles would come later in the Constitution. And those rules were and are subject to amendment given the needs of the time. Today, we have a crisis in the form of inequality in delivery of health and life. Therefore, there is a proposal to remedy that situation.

See the necessary and proper clause of the Constitution under enumerated powers of Congress.

“Editing” of our governing principles has been going on since the beginning of our nation. That neither the Declaration or Constitution do not explicitly identify healthcare is not a reason not to go forward with it now.

You may recall … the Declaration and Constitution both at one time counted blacks as 2/3 of a man. Sometimes progress is beneficial.
BirishB said, about 1 month ago

pschearer …

Is that scenario you laid out any different than republicans claiming that healthcare reform was Obama’s Waterloo? That if they were able to defeat the healthcare bill, they would defeat Obama?

I’d be interested to see your source; nevertheless, I can say with almost absolute certainty that this account you mention expressed an extremist position. Extremism, on either side of the aisle, is dangerous, given that it gives credence to wild, unrealistic fantasies.
jmworacle said, about 1 month ago

pschearer said, about 7 hours ago

I read a disturbing account the other day about the long-range strategy of the White House: to use the health-care bill to permanently emasculate the GOP. Once any version is passed, government-run healthcare will, like Social Security and Medicare, become impossible ever to undo.

This will reduce the Republicans to forever arguing that THEY can run a socialist government more efficiently than the Democrats. No matter who wins any given election, the Left will always win.

Well said, sadly the both parties try convince the “folks” that they are against waste and unecessary spending. When the party out of power gains control they go out of their way to try and bring “the goodies” back home.
striper77 said, about 1 month ago

The liberals definition of a bigot.

Someone whom calls good, good and evil, evil.

The liberals do not want to hear about the 25 million aborted babies, the 10,000 Americans killed by Muslims, the failed school system, the failed welfare system, the abomination homosexual agenda and they do not want to hear it is freewill to join a gang and live that lifestyle. They state if their was more options for them, the gangs would not look so good.
Well they already have all the bare necessities of life given to them without requiring anything from them such as get a job. The school systems, media, Hollywood and the liberals agree with them that it is not their fault that they do not work and live off the government. With that just said there is no motivation to actually make a sacrifice and finish school and go to work.
striper77 said, about 1 month ago

Furthermore is the police and or national guard went and took care of the gangs. The NAACP, ACLU, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and media would be screaming racial profiling, law suites, and Obama would pardon all of the gang members then it would be worse than it started.
striper77 said, about 1 month ago

Liberals definition of racism.

Any complaints what so ever from the Caucasians about the African American racists.

But it is ok to complain 24 / 7 about anything that could be possibly considered racisms against an African American.
striper77 said, about 1 month ago

The liberals do not want to hear about Obamas Muslim ties, Chicago corruption ties, racist pastor, racist church for 20 years, ties to Acorn, ties to pedophiles, ties to homosexuals, ties to the black panthers or ties to just about every liberal group out their.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, about 1 month ago

lewreader: Re: “The reason “the rich get richer and the poor get children” is because the rich are willing to put off family life by working 16 hour days until they are able to raise a family in a decent life.”

I remember reading a book years ago for a class (American Thought & Language) with the title: The Rich Get Richer And The Poor Get Children. It’s been so long that I don’t remember the details so I’m going to borrow from a googled abstract:

“It is unlikely that mankind will overpopulate or overpollute itself to death. Population growth has historically improved rather than decreased the prevailing standard of living. Rising poverty, not rising population, is the problem. The poor make rational decisions about their lives and will limit their families when it is to their best interest. Unequal systems of property distribution and social stratification multiple problems of overpopulation. If the basic condition of inequality is solved, the related problems of food, population, and environomental quality will also be soluble.”

http://www.popline.org/docs/0192/762314.html

I would also disagree with your “logic”. Real Rich (as in Old Money) have people (like U say) work 16 hours a day to make them More Rich! If U R lucky to be one of the “Nouveau riche” - congratulations! Otherwise U may become simply one of the Indentured Servants trying to pay off accumulated debt.

Fortunately - The Government offers low interest Student Loans and other programs to off-set the cost(s) of Higher Education. I wouldn’t go putting the cost of Tuition, Books, Lab Fees, etc on your Credit Card(s).
jack75287 said, about 1 month ago

BrishB said

You are correct … the Declaration of Independence does not mention healthcare. But as you point out … it does say we have a right to life.

(we’ll leave out the fact that modern medicine and healthcare was not even invented at the time)

Interestingly, that statement was taken from a French political philosophy that said each man had an inalienable right to life, liberty and property. The authors of the Declaration, not wanting to confer land rights to slaves, did a bit of editing.

are we not editing the Declaration of Independence again saying the taxpayer has to pay for all this.

Life, liberty, pursit of happiness and a free ride.
BirishB said, about 1 month ago

Well, Jack, I don’t know that we’re editing the Declaration. Remember, the Declaration is only a statement of purpose; the Constitution is the statement of how that purpose will function. The Declaration in no way establishes any law; it establishes only the right to make up our own laws without regard to a ruling nation.

But, yes, we would be “editing” our practices if we passed healthcare reform. If you read the rest of my post, I said as much.

The point was, we have been “editing” our laws since the beginning. It’s all part of this organic process we call America.
BirishB said, about 1 month ago

Jack,

Since you edited your post after I responded, I will respond to the “free ride” comment separately.

Exactly what “free ride” are you referring to?

The authors of the Declaration said quite clearly that by virtue of being human, you had certain rights. One of which is life. And they said that if you live here, you will always have that right protected. But, as I said in my last comment, the wording of the Declaration has no bearing here.

Are you suggesting that only welfare-sucks and lazy people will get healthcare?

If so, you are sorely mistaken.

“free ride” … that’s a rather pejorative statement. I think it shows a bit of bias about the topic. But no one wants a free ride; they just want assurance that when they get sick, that they will be able to be taken care of. I don’t have a problem with that.

Do you?
mytinytown said, about 1 month ago

mroberts88
All’s well with the family. So because Bush did something wrong, we are all liars? Because we call Obama a liar? I am confused by your statement.
“To everyone saying Obama has lied. He’s a censored politician.They lie. G.W. Bush passed the Patriot Act, an unconstitutional act because of the warrantless wiretapping.”

BirishB
Still life does not = healthcare. ESPECIALLY Obama’s healthcare. But you do realize that most every can get healthcare if they wanted. I will admit it might not be the best and at times not so affordable. But the government stepping in and fixing is way to dangerous.
mytinytown said, about 1 month ago

BirishB
I suppose you feel our Constitution is a “living document” too?
You said to Jack:
““free ride” … that’s a rather pejorative statement. I think it shows a bit of bias about the topic. But no one wants a free ride; they just want assurance that when they get sick, that they will be able to be taken care of. I don’t have a problem with that.”
You really believe that no one uses the system for a “free ride”?
Very, very naive.
BirishB said, about 1 month ago

Tiny …

“I suppose you feel our Constitution is a “living document” too?”

It has been amended 27 times already. Yes, living document.

“You really believe that no one uses the system for a “free ride”?
Very, very naive.”

I did not say that I believe that. Please reread my comment.

In any case, it is not practical to believe that you can prevent all abuses of a system, and abuses of a system by individual bad actors by no means detracts from the worthiness of a system or idea.

“Still life does not = healthcare”

Tell that to the people without healthcare.

I think we are missing the principle here: is it OK for some people to get sick and die because they don’t have access to healthcare? How is that morally justifiable?
mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

tiny, good to know that all is well. Politicians in the federal gvt. (senators, congressmen, president, etc.) lie. They will promise to fix the defecit, or whatever, and never do. Politicians arent truly trustworthy. If that doesnt answer your question, tell me specifically what it is that is confusing you, and I’ll help you try and be less confused.
mytinytown said, about 1 month ago

mroberts88
I was trying to find the relevance of you stating Bush’s patriot act. Now from your statement I get it. Thank you for clearing it up. I do agree with the lying they all do, I feel you just gotta pick who lies the least. But I feel Obama is directly “in your face” lying. Which is really bad.
mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

tiny, he is the most recent president, so his name popped up first, I could go back to Nixon, or Clinton. How is Obama “in your face” lying?
Jim said, about 1 month ago

@ mroberts88 : No . I just never got a chance to welcome you , over at Pibgorn . I look at this strip daily , but rarely comment .
jack75287 said, about 1 month ago

Tiny to be fair to Brish it was I who mention the free ride.

Brish to be honest to myself I edited just a few minutes after my post and I think the post was better of for doing so.

You want universal health care fine. You do not have the right to expect everyone else to pay for the cost. We are already in debt being broke would be a step up. Our social spending is already far out pacing military spending it is true. You could cut back on all military spending every dime of it and you would still not cover medicade and medicare. Honest.

The question of this becomes so why are we wanting to give healthcare to everyone when the life we will be giving everyone will not be worth living. I rather have a good live of 60 years then a horrible life of 90.

http://www.heritage.org/research/budget/images/b2114_chart1.gif
mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

Oh, well then. The commenting on that strip really flies by.
Wyo1 said, about 1 month ago

I’ve got to interject here. This is why I’m against Congress/government sticking their noses into this…or most anything…..
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BirishB said,

Tiny …

“I suppose you feel our Constitution is a “living document” too?”

It has been amended 27 times already. Yes, living document.

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If this IS what the people want, then amend the constitution! Government stepping in like it is trying to do this, is, well, unconstitutional, in this setting. Dammit. Put it up to referendum and we’ll see what exactly the populace wants. Legal voters, which means citizens registered to vote, key word, citizens……we the people….not Congress, who all need to be fired. I’m tired of seeing the arguments, for and against, when the issue should be treated as the ERA was treated. Again, it will take time, but it would be legal, constitutional, and THEN congress can go ahead with the mandate from we the people, and screw it up….at least we would have tried the way it should be done.
GJ_Jehosaphat said, about 1 month ago

OK!!!! This is where I get to be one of those “geezers” with their “I remember when”:

I went to a State University in the 70’s & remember paying between $12 to $15 per credit hour. Typically one would sign up for 18 hours to be considered a full time student (10 week terms).
So my father would write me out a check for $2,000 to pay for Tuition, Room & Board (dorm), Books & Spending $$ (food, clothes, entertainment). Bless him for paying my way thru college cause I came out not owing 1 cent.

Here’s the cost of a State University (U of Mich) for in state students to budget for 2 semesters which ranges from $23,721 for Lower Division & $25,203 for Upper Division Undergraduate Students to $34,571 for Graduate Students.

http://www.finaid.umich.edu/FinancialAidBasics/cost.asp

THIS IS PER YEAR!!!
TOTAL COST FOR 4 YEARS = $97,848!!!
2 YEARS GRADUATE SCHOOL = $69142!!!

If Government Student Loans/Grants/etc get reduced because of this economic mess - guess Who’s Going To College (or go into massive debt before they get a job).

BTW - what’s the job placement for graduating students? After they’re out of school - R They Going To Be Covered By Their Parents Health Insurance? When Do They Have To Start Paying Back Student Loans?

I was lucky - had a job while I was in College which I kept for years afterward (payed below the expected value of my degree - but at least it payed my rent/utilities/etc & had excellent health care benefits (I worked in a clerical position at the local hospital). R the graduates as lucky today?
BirishB said, about 1 month ago

Wyo …

A reasonable solution in some regards.

But we live in a republic, where we elect officials to represent us. If we put it to a direct, referendum vote … wouldn’t we be turning our back on the system of government we have trusted since 1776?

But I think it would be interesting to take a vote – a poll – to see where people stand on this issue alone:

Is access to healthcare a right? Or a privilege?

Perhaps if we agreed on the principle, we could let rest some of this anger and get down to work on the details of how best to fulfill our American promise.
Contrarian said, about 1 month ago

Wyo1

I need to address you tomorrow when I have more time to discuss your interesting idea.
mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

Birish, hlthcare is a right.
DavidDow said, about 1 month ago

TinyT., I am very glad to read that your wife & little Gracie are well. Almost ten pounds at birth! She is a huge baby. No wonder your wife needed another caesarean—of course, once you have one, you tend to have them all that way. Please convey my best to her, and give Gracie an extra kiss from your “narrow-minded” progressive friends at this forum.

Mrob., I agree with you about gangs & about health-care. Ensuring everyone decent health-care would take a step in shrinking the gap between rich & poor. That gap helps lead to gangs.

Teetonka, I am proud of how hard you worked. I encourage everyone to work hard. I am sure that there is more to your life than these few lines, however, and you would certainly agree that the situation of the impoverished in our society is a very complex one.

Since you want to use your life as an example, Teetonka, then please impart more information. How old are you now? With what degree did you graduate? What school did you attend from five to nine p.m. every evening? How did you pay for it? What were your jobs? When did you work these jobs, and when did you graduate? What is your occupation now?

Okay, back to other tasks. My five minutes are up.
mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

striper, do you not realize that many leaders of the so called “christian right” were segregationists, and want no one to have rights, other than christians? If nothing else, look this up for yourself, as I am not going to do it for you.
striper77 said, about 1 month ago

I do not approve of anyone being segregationists.

Senator Byrd from West Virginia was and also belonged to the KKK.
He apologized and that was good enough for the liberals.

However which is worse.

Not wanting to be around other races. No harm done to any one.

Or

Murdering 25 million babies.
Approving of and participating in all forms of 597 forms of abortion.
Belonging to a gang and living a life of crime.
Purposely infecting another human being with aids.
Blowing up buildings
Molesting children.
Having numerous kids with numerous partners and not supporting them.
Career criminal.
Career welfare participant.
Blowing up airplanes
Killing innocent American citizens
Males marching in parades only wearing women’s garments.
Women marching in parades only wearing men’s under garments.
Worshiping the earth.
Worshiping animals
Democrat congressman having affairs and killing the partner.

The bottom 16 is the liberals and democrats