State of the Union by Carl Moore

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  1. mroberts88

    mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

    People will not allow something they dont want shoved down their throat. It doesnt matter whether what they will make their life better or worse, so we need to let the people decide.

  2. kensurg

    kensurgGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Wrong end

  3. Ronshua

    RonshuaGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    That can’t be a Conservatives mouth . kensurg your right .

  4. sablebrush5

    sablebrush5 said, about 1 month ago

    If Obama decides to go the reconciliation route in the Senate (only 51 votes needed to pass), then over half the country will see this as “shoving ObamaCare down our throats.” His popularity will sink, not rise, as many Dems hope. The country will be seriously divided more than ever and his “bring-us-together” rhetoric will be nothing but hot air. Though it won’t be a knockout punch, It will be a body blow to his presidency… a blow from which he will spend the next 3 years trying to recover.

  5. Lewreader

    LewreaderGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Oh, I think American enjoy others making their decisions. They would rather pay taxes and let Uncle Sam decide what is best for them. After all those fringe parties like the Libertarians and that party with three letters are only for mental cases who don’t realize the government knows best.. The founding fathers never specified two parties, so they probably meant one. We could save a lot of money if we only got rid of those pesky elections.

  6. JanCinVV

    JanCinVVGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Lewreader, even in the revolution, there were two parties. That carried over to the first election and every election since then. If the constitution doesn’t specify two parties (or more), it is certainly implicit in the election process itself. Do you really think Jefferson et.al. wanted two candidates who agreed with each other running a popularity contest?

    That being said, (with tongue firmly planted in cheek) I agree, getting rid of those pesky DEMs would certainly improve the country.

  7. mroberts88

    mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

    Jan, I think Lewreader was being sarcastic.

  8. fogey

    fogeyGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    George Washington (and may framers of the Constitution) disliked political parties. The worst excesses of political parties happen when they act as monoliths with no tolerance for deviations within their own ranks - that’s why one-party contol of both Legislative and Executive brancehes can be a disaster. Ronald Reagan succeeded because hate across the aisles was not as ingrained as it became under Gingrich and Lott - or as it has become in reaction to them. I firmly believe that both Reagan and Obama were/are capable leaders and good men concerned with the welfare of our country - and unfortunately I have received a negative reaction to that belief.

  9. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 1 month ago

    This strip is funny but the facts are sad. At least two flavors of the health care bill with the public option have now been killed by the Democrats while in committee. This shows just how powerless Obama has become. With his ideas on health care failing what are his biggest issues at the moment? Not Iran, not the unemployed. It is getting Chicago the 2016 Olympics followed buy shorting summer vacations.

    Ok Chicago has its Aldermen and a Mayor plus a Governor in Springfield IL. Any of those guys can help Chicago with the Olympics hope they do. So why is Obama getting in on this? He is the President of the United States and I don’t want him involved in bringing the Olympics anywhere. As for summer vacation that is why the States are better able to teach then the federal government. They know better then Washington what there education needs are. The reason why summer vacation happens was so kids could help on the farm. Well a few states still have that need, Wyoming, Idaho, Iowa and the Dakotas for example. Others have High Tech needs like California, Washington and Texas, other have industrial needs like Michigan. Some like Missouri, Illinois and Texas again have a combination of all three so yes why do we want the federal government making this decision for everyone.

    The real sad thing is this is not even Obama’s fault. It is not George Bush’s fault it is ours. We elected both of them so we need to take the blame. The best thing that could happen in 2010 is to elect about thirty or more Independents and scare the hell out of both the Republicans and the Democrats. Maybe through a few in Jail like Charlie Wrangle for tax evasion.

  10. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 1 month ago

    fogey

    You are mostly right but my problem with Obama is that there is nothing in his history that tells me he knows what is best for this country. A three year Senator with no votes. A 1 & 1/2 terms in the state senate was never enough to make him ready to be president. Everyone who is ready to be president will have everything they have done studied and torn apart.

    Bush was the same way. The man who runs the State of TX is the Lt. Governor. If you are the state Treasure Secretary or head of the Rail Road Commission you report to the Lt Governor. The Governor signs and veto bills and calls out the National Guard in an Indian Raid. Honest it is in the state Constitution. Like it or no both men are carbon copies of our age.

  11. Radical-Knight

    Radical-KnightGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Marker

  12. Magnaut

    MagnautGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    AFFIRMATIVE ACTION STRIKES AGAIN……….

  13. soundeziiner

    soundeziiner said, about 1 month ago

    Hey Jack75287,

    Speaking of “studied and torn apart” you might want to do a little bit more research on Obama’s voting record as a Senator.

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/

    For instance, in the 110th Congress (his last year in office) he voted 352 times… almost 50% more than John McCain , who had just 237 and was the only senator to miss more than 50% of the votes. Kind of funny when you think about it, as Obama had a really good reason for missing the last month of Congress as he was getting ready to move into his new house.

    In fact, it appears McCain was the top vote-misser for the 110th – more than any of the democrats (Obama, Biden and Clinton) involved in the most heated primary in recent memory! If vote casting is a measure of how well a Senator knows what is good for this country and how qualified he or she is for the presidency, Obama, Biden and Clinton all EASILY outclassed McCain.

    Jack75287 said:
    “You are mostly right but my problem with Obama is that there is nothing in his history that tells me he knows what is best for this country. A three year Senator with no votes. A 1 & 1/2 terms in the state senate was never enough to make him ready to be president. Everyone who is ready to be president will have everything they have done studied and torn apart.”

  14. Contrarian

    Contrarian said, about 1 month ago

    JanCinVV said: “If the constitution doesn’t specify two parties (or more), it is certainly implicit in the election process itself.”

    Said Thomas Jefferson:

    Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object: the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good.

    edu.virginia/jefferson

    In contrast, Jefferson’s estranged ally, John Adams, thought that political parties were to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.

  15. Norman

    NormanGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    You don’t like it there, Bozo will shove it up the other end.

  16. Tigger

    TiggerGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Obama is in for a rude awakening when Congress rejects his Health Care Proposal. He will be even more suprised when we give control of Congress back to the Elephants on November 2, 2010.

  17. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 1 month ago

    soundeziiner

    Fine but McCain had over forty years of service to his country and over twenty in the senate. Obama had three. Your numbers are about the same for all three years for Obama. How dose this change my point that he and Bush are not that much different. Noticed you left off the second paragraph there.

    Tigger

    I would be happy with just one house at this point. Either the House of Rep or the Senate. Don’t care which..

  18. pschearer

    pschearerGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    It will make no difference in the long term if the “public option” gets defeated, because all the other provisions of so-called “health insurance reform” will be enough to kill the private health insurance industry anyway.

    When the currently uninsured (including millions for whom this is a purposeful choice) are forced by threat of fines and even JAIL to buy insurance, there will be a sudden surge of the newly insured. But the law will tax and discouurage the highest coverage policies, will outright outlaw high-deductible catastrophic-only policies, and will forbid exclusions for pre-existing conditions.

    The eventual result will be higher costs leading to higher premiums for all, creating yet another alleged “healthcare crisis”. This will give the government its excuse to come riding to the rescue with the government-run system they can’t get through yet but have wanted all along. If the advocates of socialized medicine can’t get it now, they’ll be satisfied to get it later and make all Americans dependent on the government for one of the most critical parts of our lives.

    It’s all part of an old scam: regulate an industry almost to death (in this case, health insurance–forbidden, for example, to compete across state lines), pretend that it is virtually unregulated and that more regulation is needed, and use the problems caused by each new round of regulations as the excuse for each new cycle of the same old game. It started over 100 years ago with railroads and continues today with the auto industry, banking, Wall Street, and so forth.

    So far the vigor that the still free elements of our economy can muster have kept our standard of living from crashing, but how long will that last as the government takes over more and more elements of the economy and turns them into kindred spirits of the Post Office and DMV?

    And how does the Left answer those who stand up for freedom? By calling us racist.

  19. 3hourtour

    3hourtour said, about 1 month ago

    voting is gov’t socialism at it’s worse.I say we stop it now…

  20. dkram

    dkram said, about 1 month ago

    mroberts88 said, about 19 hours ago

    People will not allow something they dont want shoved down their throat.

    Unless like in Vermont the law makers don’t let the people have a say.

  21. Contrarian

    Contrarian said, about 1 month ago

    pschearer said: “”It’s all part of an old scam…”

    It’s called incrementalism. Change is enacted step by step; and one day you wake up and don’t recognize your country.

  22. GJ_Jehosaphat

    GJ_JehosaphatGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    I think it’s incredible with the advances of medicine that health care has become unaffordable for the uninsured masses.
    What would happen if the Health Care AND/OR Insurance System Collapsed and went Bankrupt?

    Would the Government be expected to bail them our?
    Would U know how to fend for yourself?
    Do U run to the hospital ER at the first sign of a heart attack OR wait to see if it’s just Heart Burn…
    Can U afford to Wait to see if an acute pain becomes a chronic condition?

    What if U decide that U can’t wait to see your regular physician & find the ER is FULL to capacity - beds in the hallway, waiting room chairs full of “sick” people waiting their turn.
    What if this NEW FLU takes out some of the health care workers (EMT’s, Nurses, Doctors, ETC.) are not invulnerable to illness.
    Have U seen the advertisements for Emergency Flu Kits to have just in case U come down with it & have to treat yourself at home

    It’s more than interesting the Health Care Reform Debate with a Public Insurance Option is being debated during the emerging Flu Season. Perhaps those folks who are against the Public Option already have insurance coverage - well Bully For Them.

    Hope they don’t have to go out in the Real World where Germs Linger - Good Luck not getting contaminated by those Poor Folks who couldn’t afford to buy their own Health Insurance - not being able to afford to seek medical help & try to tough it out.

    Be thankful if only a Health Care Pill is being shoved down your throat - could be a ventilator tube trying to keep keep your alive because you’ve let something that could have been easily treated become life threatening.

    Fear of reduced access to the health care system is one of the tactics used to defeat the public option. Well for alot of folks, that’s already reality. Business have been taking the brunt of insurance cost increases. Alot of them have gone out of business leaving folks without insurance coverage. The whole system needs re-evaluation - a second opinion by folks who vote will be made next year.

    I predict that if Health Care Reform doesn’t happen this year - it will be fodder to replace the Bums who voted it down. Get rid of the old goats who voted the Public Option Down in the Senate Finance Committee and replace them with those who have a conscience & a heart for their fellow man.

  23. ChuckTrent64

    ChuckTrent64Genius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Can you trust a cartoonist who doesn’t know the difference between Spider Man & Bat Man?

  24. Noreen Klose

    Noreen Klose said, about 1 month ago

    I am disgusted with our system. The politicians have paid staffers who do all the work. The politicians do NOT read, or understand the ramifications of the HUGE mega-bills.

    I could be a senator, or a representative. Get a nice, cushy job- - -boss around the hired help, get GREAT government benefits… Ooh la la, let me be a “leader”.

    The real trouble is, D.C. has forgotten that they work for us. They have become “Aristocrats” whose only concern is keeping themselves in office. They look down upon the common man, and they all think of themselves as CZARS.

    THEY WANT THE PUBLIC OPTION FOR US COMMON PEOPLE…BUT THEY WON’T LIVE WITH IT FOR THEMSELVES.

  25. mroberts88

    mroberts88 said, about 1 month ago

    dkram said, about 3 hours ago

    mroberts88 said, about 19 hours ago

    People will not allow something they dont want shoved down their throat.

    Unless like in Vermont the law makers don’t let the people have a say.

    Wow, I’m sorry to hear that. Is there nothing the citizens of Vermont can do?

    GJ, I think it will get voted down, which is sad, because the more I think about it, the more I think its a good idea. Out of curiosity, does the GJ stand for Great Jumping?

  26. DavidDow

    DavidDow said, about 1 month ago

    This pill is not as huge as Bush-Dick’s capsule of lies to get us into the bloody Iraq fiasco, and if the American people could swallow that, then they will have no problem swallowing health-care reform. Yes, this will be expensive, but so is the Iraq fiasco, and these expenditures will actually save lives and help people—unlike the Iraq fiasco, which has cost thousands of lives & helped no one, excepting Bush-Dick’s friends.

    Sable. & Tigger, your predictions are worthless.

    Lew., we have others making our health-care decisions for us now. Health care reform will take steps toward rectifying that.

    Pschearer, defending the huge insurance industry is hardly standing up for freedom. You are confusing freedom with avarice.

  27. sablebrush5

    sablebrush5 said, about 1 month ago

    pschearer,

    Terrific post. Right on the nose.