State of the Union by Carl Moore
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mroberts88 said, 2 months ago
Haha, I like how it says apologies to Charles Schulz.
Granted, Bush wasnt the greatest president we had, but now its Obamas presidency. If he messes up, it will be on him.
rricchhterr said, 2 months ago
with whatever respect may be due, Obama did’nt start the fire, and he’s not getting much help putting it out.
in may cases, unfortunately we inherit…
Ronshua
said,
2 months ago
Now or then , if it looks like a duck , and walks like a duck . Smells like a duck and acts like a duck . You can wager all you have , your in for a real good ducking .
Kees
said,
2 months ago
It’s just like a balloon, you rub it and it becomes static. all the dirt from the predecessors automatically becomes yours. So one can only judge an achievement if it not polluted.
Only if the bill for your new health plan passes congress (something I doubt seriously, since you have all those silly lobbyists) and it fails you have something to rub into Obama’s face.
DavidDow said, 2 months ago
From yesterday:
Mrob., to state that, after a brief civil skirmish with a seceding Texas, the U.S. could clear out the secessionists & “let Texas repopulate itself with civilized folk” does not mean that all living in Texas currently are uncivilized. I didn’t say it, and I don’t believe it.
As for secession, if Texas secedes, and you try to stop that from happening, and you leave Texas to help the U.S. retain Texas, then no, you have not committed treason.
About today:
Even more than not the greatest, Mrob., your unfortunate landsman, Bush-Dick, is going down in history as one of the worst presidents. He will be ranked down there with Warren Harding & James Buchanan, lower even than Richard Nixon. Fifty years from now, our descendants will ask us, “What were you thinking when you let him steal the election of 2000 and then ELECTED him in 2004!?”
I agree, Richter, did you notice how the regressives have abandoned Bush-Dick in order to blame this current mess on President Obama, whose presidency is all of eight months old? The Republicans have run two or three branches of government for twelve of the last fourteen years, but the terrible mess that the nation is in? That is somehow the fault of Obama & the Democrats.
(By the way, considering how Bush-Dick lived in denial about our part in polluting the world, perhaps Snoopy is right.)
tizzo said, 2 months ago
“with whatever respect may be due, Obama did’nt start the fire, and he’s not getting much help putting it out.”
Obama didn’t start most of the fires he’s dealing with, but they were smaller than they are now, and were shrinking, on January 20. He has managed to throw gasoline on several of them. Less than a year ago Afghanistan was considered a war all but won. And most agree that the economy would be on the way to recovery by now, including jobs, had the Bush administration’s policies (excluding TARP) been continued. The stimulus bill has been a disaster. In Florida, our share of the couple of hundred billion that was actually stimulative, EG road construction, is all being given credit for projects we’d already paid for. And the tab for those funds, plus the half trillion or so of political giveaways, will end up coming due under whomever succeeds Obama.
After the way creditors of Chrysler and GM were treated, commercial lending is not likely to recover at least until the current administration is out of office. The greater risk is that the Obama administration’s shredding of the bankruptcy law to literally steal assets properly belonging to senior creditors and giving it to undeserving parties, some of them bad actors, might be seen not only as the isolated and extremely personal act of graft that it was, but also as precedent. The fact that Obama was not legally opposed on this means that it will be that much easier for a future president, of either party, to shift assets in bankruptcy proceedings to favored groups of their own.
I’m not unsympathetic towards Obama, but he has no one to blame but himself for a lot of this. If he had simply done what he said he would do in the campaign – act in a bipartisan manner – he could have a much easier time of it. When the recovery act was being debated, the republicans had a plan on the table that would have created twice the jobs of the package that was passed, at half the cost. And it would all have been in the first two years. The package that was passed will end up creating all of its jobs – if any – after the recession would have been over anyway.
On health care, he could have legislation tomorrow that meets all of his stated goals if he would get his party to stop shutting Republicans out of the process. This problem is political, and really isn’t of his making. His biggest problems on health care today are with other democrats. But this is where leadership over partisanship could make the difference. Until there is more unity among democrats, it is not in his political interest to get Republican support for health care. In other words, health care reform that passes with all Republicans and some democrats is good for the Republicans, good for the country, but bad for Democrats. Reform efforts that fail with universal Republican opposition isn’t great for the democrats either, but is worse for Republicans and for the country. There’s a stark choice here. The first is a no-brainer for a leader and a statesman, and the second is similarly obvious for a political partisan. And we all know which choice President Obama has made.
jack75287 said, 2 months ago
It is Bush’s fault. This is so common blame Bush or Obama all you want. The problem is us. It is the American People who elected the last three presidents on how pretty they are. It is not Democrats it is not Republicans it is the American voter.
Thomas Jefferson would not be elected today because the American eye the Camera would take one look at him and see a ruddy skin red head who did not look like George Clooney, or Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama.
Yes David I am Ranting make whatever comment you want.
Lewreader
said,
2 months ago
Pig pen isn’t the only one getting dirty at the moment.. The men we elected to ink up the printing presses are filthy.
In my state, our beloved Senator has rolled in real estate scams, voting AIG raises (He is chairman of Banking, isn’t he), and defended himself by photo ops with the president.Seeing that we are a liberal state (read: Dem) he will undoubtedly be re-elected as he brings home the bacon (our tax dollars that have gone through the Federal strainer).
ChuckTrent64
said,
2 months ago
How soon we forget. 9-11 and everything else was Clinton’s fault, right? Turn about may not be smart, but it happens.
mroberts88 said, 2 months ago
On Texas: David, so you were saying, that if Texas were to secede, I didnt leave for whatever reason (family,job, etc.), never raised a weapon against the U.S. I am as guilty of treason as the militias that would have?
On this current strip: David, I never voted for Bush. I wasnt old enough either time, the second time I was only 16. I can say, thankfully, George Bush is not from Texas. He’s from New Haven, Conn. Granted, he was the governor of TX, but like I said before, I never voted for him to be president.
mytinytown said, 2 months ago
DavidDow
In YOUR mind Bush will go down in history as 1 of the worst presidents. I love how you are still crying the 2000 election was stolen. I think all us conservatives should still be crying every day how the 1960 election between Nixon and JFK were stolen. I am sure in 50 years you will still be crying about the 2000 election. Get over is, this ALLEGED incident happened almost 9 years ago. The only proof I ever see is what liberals bring to the table and to me that holds about as much water as Obama’s citizenship in your eyes I am sure.
butch1942 said, 2 months ago
How about the Elections of 1824 and 1876, if you want to talk about the will of the people being subverted, and elections stolen??
HolySmoke said, 2 months ago
Charles Schulz says “Apologies NOT accepted!”
This is the FIRST sign a democrat is desparate…keep on blaming Bush in the face of all the evidence that when it came to government spending Bush was in the , well, BUSH league, compared to Obama.
jmworacle said, 2 months ago
mroberts88 said, about 15 hours ago
Haha, I like how it says apologies to Charles Schulz.
Granted, Bush wasnt the greatest president we had, but now its Obamas presidency. If he messes up, it will be on him.
Hate to tell you if anything goes wrong “The Benevolent One” and his lackeys in the main-stream media will cry:
“I.B.F.!”* Hey, they’re doing to to President Regan.
*It’s Bush’s Fault!
jmworacle said, 2 months ago
rricchhterr said, about 15 hours ago
with whatever respect may be due, Obama did’nt start the fire, and he’s not getting much help putting it out.
in may cases, unfortunately we inherit…
The “Demopublicans” have majorities in the House and the Senate they do not need assistance from the “Republicrats” in order to get legislation passed. After ramming through the “Stimulus” bill some “Demopublicans” are realizing that this isn’t going well with the folks back home and are concerned about their re-election chances. Not eveyone in the House or the Senate have the luxurey of represent “safe” districts or states like Speaker Pelosi, Barney Frank, Henry Waxman, Pat Lehey, or Bernie Sanders.
DavidDow said, 2 months ago
Thanks, Tizzo, for your coherent thoughts, but you are wrong about the invasion of Afghanistan. It has been a mistake & a disaster from the start. As for the Great Republican Recession, it was getting worse & worse when President Obama inherited it in January. I do not like 100% of the stimulus, but he did something, and the economy has begun to improve, and lending has picked up. You mention a Republican economic recovery plan: What was it?
As for health-care reform, the Republicans have expressed little interest in it. Almost all the effort from the right-wing has been to stymie anything that Obama & the Democrats try to do. In addition, any Republican proposals would create such feeble reform that it would be virtually useless. We have a huge health-care crisis, and even the Democrats’ plans do not go far enough.
Obama has expended much of the last eight months attempting to work with Republicans. It has not worked. He & the Democrats should do what the people sent them to D.C. to do: Run the government and fix the country. Eight years of Bush-Dick in the White House along with fourteen years of Republicans running Congress left us with the biggest national mess since the Republicans’ Great Depression of 1929.
Lew., I agree with you about Senator Dodd. It is time for him to retire, and you Nutmeggers need to replace him. Your senators do not speak well of your political acumen, I am afraid. Of course, I live in Tennessee, and we have two terrible senators. It’s tough all over.
Not necessarily, Mrob. Of course, if Texas seceded, your job would disappear soon, as the state had to conscript all its able-bodied citizens to take up arms against the federal troops. If you joined the Texas military, then you would, indeed, be committing treason. You can reject G.W. Bush as a Texan, but it’s no go. He is Texan. I realize that you did not vote for him, but he is Texan. Sorry.
Thanks, TinyT., for not being able to rebut any of my points. There is no need to discuss the election of 2000, because the facts are established, as they are about the election of 1960 & as they are about Obama’s citizenship. It is all settled. That is the reason that I simply made a brief reference to it. As you cannot find anything good to say about Bush-Dick, it is not simply in my mind that he is a terrible president. In fifty years, Gracie’s children will be in awe about how out of touch Grampa is. My best to your wife. I hope that she’s feeling well. Nine more days!
I agree with you, Butch, about the election of 1876, but the election of 1824 followed the constitutional process.
Woracle, as Obama has been in office all of eight months & two days, point to something that IS NOT Bush-Dick’s fault. Give Obama, say, two years. In January of 2011, we can give him an interim report card.
Contrarian said, 2 months ago
mytinytown said to DavidDow: “In YOUR mind Bush will go down in history as 1 of the worst presidents.”
Tiny, do YOU think that Bush was a good president? Do you understand that Bush was not a conservative, nor was his father?
Are you aware that William Buckley and Pat Buchanan opposed the Iraq war?
Have you read George Will’s columns calling for American withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan?
Conservatives do not believe in nation building.
Bush was fiscally irresponsible.
Tiny, are you a conservative?
You sound more like a neo-con.
Tigger
said,
2 months ago
Pig Pen is a Dust Collector
Jim said, 2 months ago
… . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbiYFA0-8mU
DavidDow said, 2 months ago
I’m happy to agree with most of what you wrote, Contrarian, but George Will was hardly writing against these invasions in 2002 & 2003.