State of the Union by Carl Moore
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mroberts88 said, 2 months ago
I agree. Hopefully the better ones will start soon.
Ronshua
said,
2 months ago
Someone Who Read The Whole Thing…
If you have not yet heard about what’s really in it…..
FROM AN EXPERT WHO HAS READ THE WHOLE THING!
From Michael Connelly - Retired attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor
Carrollton , Texas
Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House
Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied
it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional
law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were
being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse
tha n what I had heard or expected.
To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its
implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the
media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care,
particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are
involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion
services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members
of the medical profession.
The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out
of business and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions
about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal
bureaucrats and most of them will not be health care professionals.
Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of
necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled.
However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface.
In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention
of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a
convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the
Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been
contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions
of the Constitution of the United States will ef fectively have been
destroyed.
The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of
power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the
U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama
Administration authority in a number of different areas over the
lives of the American people and the businesses they own. The irony is
that the Congress doesn’t have any authority to legislate in most of those
areas to begin with. I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S.
Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of
Congress to regulate health care.
This legislation also provides for access by the appointees of the
Obama administration of all of your personal healthcare information,
your personal financial information, and the information of your
employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a direct violation
of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the
Constitution protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures.
You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been
legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and
4th Amendments may provide.
If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private
insurance that is not deemed “acceptable” to the “Health Choices
Administrator”20appointed by Obama there will be a tax imposed on you.
It is called a “tax” instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid
application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment.
However, that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law
that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is
definitely depriving someone of property without the “due process of
law.
So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate
so much out the original ten in the Bill of Rights that are
effectively nullified by this law. It doesn’t stop there though. The
9th Amendment that provides: “The enumeration in the
Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or
disparage others retained by the people;” The 10th
Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by
the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved
to the States respectively, or to the people.” Under the provisions of
this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the
states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas
that once were theirs to control.
I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you
get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing
power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the
members of both houses of Congress to “be bound by oath or
affirmation” to support the Constitution. If I was a member of
Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything
like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or
affirmation. If I voted for it anyway I would hope the American
people would hold me accountable.
For those who might doubt the nature of this threat I suggest they
consult the source.
Here is a link to the Constitution:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
And another to the Bill of Rights:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/billof_rightstranscript.html
There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.
Michael Connelly
Retired attorney,
Constitutional Law Instructor
Carrollton , Texas
DavidDow said, 2 months ago
Ronshua, where did all this bleeep come from? If “Michael Connolly” (who is NOT “an expert”) really did read House Bill 3200, then it would be perfectly simple for him to quote & cite those parts of it that do the horrific things he claims.
What do you have next for us? A man who has “actually seen” the Loch Ness Monster?
HUMPHRIES
said,
2 months ago
David, note “law instructor in Texas”.
PS plus a “lot” of congressional staff members preping briefing papers have read it as well.
slug_queen said, 2 months ago
Hey, I want some of what ‘Michael Connolly’ is smoking, because I read the bill and it does not say what he claims. Someone’s blowing smoke here…
GJ_Jehosaphat
said,
2 months ago
I had NO IDEA who this guy is so I Googled “Michael Connelly Carrolton Texas” and got a good laugh reading the Address Lines of all the Wing-Nuts who’ve posted the Above Rant in their Blogs. I didn’t click on any of them cause U don’t know what kinda “bugs” (spyware) may be attached.
Since Ronshua did such a poor job with his Copy/Paste (didn’t bother to edit out all the excess spaces), now we have alot of wasted space & BS which says Nothing About What’s in The Health Care Bill. Says more about Ronshua & where he gets his information….
toasteroven said, 2 months ago
You know, I thought about reading this comic, and the comments that follow. I really did.
But in the end, I just pulled out an old collection of Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stories, and read that instead. Now that is time well spent.
So, classic sword and sorcery, anyone? Thoughts?
ejcapulet
said,
2 months ago
Pass The Hobbit, toasteroven, and we can wait this arc out (sorry, I hate to be negative, but I’m getting bored).
sablebrush5 said, 2 months ago
Does anyone really believe that the more politicians get involved with healthcare, the better off we will be? Where in all of history is there an example of politicians making any business, institution, or program better by getting more involved, making more regulations, passing more laws that improve, make more efficient or make things easier to do? If this bill passes, we’re on our way to healthcare by Waxman, Reid and Obama. God help us.
twright64 said, 2 months ago
Do you left-wing jerkos have any idea what the US Constitution is? Did you do as ronshua suggested and read it? Did you understand anything about it? What does the 10th Amendment mean to you, anyway?
Here’s Attorney Connelly’s page:
http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/
Go read it, you nimbn4tted jerkos. It may be alright for YOU to give up a measure of freedom, but this old fart will go down swinging.
LibrarianInTraining said, 2 months ago
Toasteroven, know if there’s any word on Elfstones of Shannara finally making it to a movie screen? My hubs has been waiting with baited breath for a year now, and no word.
And who would you pick to play Allanon? Hubs thinks Jeremy Irons would do wonderfully.
jack75287 said, 2 months ago
David
Now you are just trying to attack the statement by attacking Ronshua. If you don’t believe it start looking the man up and come back with something. Just stating what page it is on is not enough. Some of the issues with this bill is that it is so convoluted. Get over all this. It’s like saying we will not supply health care for illegal aliens when the hosp will not be allowed to I.D people. So how will you stop health care for illegal aliens.
All these nice little twist and turns are really what this bill is all about.
DavidDow said, 2 months ago
Yes, Humphries, I read “law instructor”: No college given, no credentials given, no qualifications to understand a complex health-care bill given, and, as I wrote above, nothing of or from the bill given. GJ’s observations are much more trenchant.
Sable, politicians are already completely involved in health-care. By having some of President Obama’s reforms, we will improve a system in which the government’s most recent acts, under Bush-Dick, were to give insurance companies everything they wanted.
Thanks, Twright. His website shows that he is a former private practice attorney, could have been the ambulance-chaser type, wants more publicity for his books, and has no expertise in the study of healthcare. He is an “instructor” only for a sleazy online education program. Finally, no one has addressed my first point: If Michael Connolly really did read House Bill 3200, then it would be perfectly simple for him to quote & cite those parts of it that do the horrific things he claims.
Jack, I have tried, for months, to read your remrks. They are illiterate & incoherent. Please sober up, read what you write, and clean it up so that it makes sense. I’ll look at what you write in tomorrow’s forum.
SQUIDBREAKER said, 2 months ago
A fine line between ‘your greeniness’ and ‘your greediness’.
We put in solar to try and save money - its not working very well.
A.
Nick V said, 2 months ago
You’d think the Spirit of Greeness would change its image after being told the same thing so many times… either the Spirit of Greeness has tunnel vision, or it doesn’t care what it looks like.
Contrarian said, 2 months ago
marktrailerpark said: “(Rush Limbaugh) is a Republican, so there’s not an environmental bone in his huge, blubbery body.”
Do you really believe that Republicans want to drink dirty water and breathe polluted air?!
Think about what you are implying.
Also, would Limbaugh have an environmental bone if his body was not huge and blubbery? (By the way, he has lost a few pounds.)
I suppose you dismiss Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation efforts; and dare I mention Richard Nixon’s Environmental Protection Agency.
johnnydoc5 said, 2 months ago
David, I think Jack’s posts are illiterate too. I doubt they can read. (sorry, it is funny to me)
Kees
said,
2 months ago
and in California it is not permitted to shoot deer while sailing on a boat.
If this makes sense to you, let me know. All the above, including the cartoon are just gibberish to me.
Contrarian said, 2 months ago
Kees said: “…and in California it is not permitted to shoot deer while sailing on a boat. If this makes sense to you, let me know.”
It is not considered sporting to herd the game that you are hunting.
From the California Department of Fish and Game:
DFG reg. 252. No person shall pursue, drive, herd, or take any bird or mammal from any type of motor-driven air or land vehicles, motorboat, airboat, sailboat, or snowmobile, except: 1) When the motor of such motorboat, airboat, or sailboat has been shut off and/or the sails furled and its progress therefrom has ceased, and it is drifting, beached, moored, resting at anchor, or is being propelled by paddle, oar or pole.
mytinytown said, 2 months ago
Good thing Obama is scrapping the missile defense we have. Good to know he likes to waste TONS of money, except on the military.
jack75287 said, 2 months ago
johnnydoc5 they or he.
David sorry you can’t read. Not all of us have all day to play around here.
Also I didn’t think you have been on this blog for months. Did you call yourself something else? Are you from England?
One word I miss-typed stating and placed in sitting. If this is how you get your jollies then I am very sorry for your both. But the truth is when someone disagrees with you, you respond by attacking. Personally you come across like a child.
Tigger
said,
2 months ago
I can understand Ms. Crow asking females to use one square to pat miss kitty’s mouth dry after she spits up water, however, it takes me much more than one square to clear the entire residue after I poop. I keep wiping until there is zero residue on the tissue.
mroberts88 said, 2 months ago
Tiny, you have a point. We need a missile defense system if N. Korea has nukes. Their leader is street rat crazy, we dont know what he will do.
Contrarian said, 2 months ago
In defense of Jack, people may have different strengths with regards to spatial and verbal skills.
MIT students rank lower on reading and writing skills, but excel at math and science.
Jacques Hadamard, the French mathematician who proved the prime number theorem in 1896, said he did not think in words and so it was difficult for him to put in writing his abstract ideas.
Maybe Jack is a genius.
mytinytown said, 2 months ago
mroberts88
I never agree with lessening our military. It should never be an option. Especially with psychos out there that may have them already. To big of a gamble to play.
You all have a GREAT weekend I’m out till Monday!
dkram said, 2 months ago
0.o This can’t go on much longer, forever.
Contrarian said, 2 months ago
mytinytown and mroberts88:
I didn’t read that the president was scrapping our missile defense system.
He did, however, decide to not implement the Bush plan to deploy missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic.
HUMPHRIES
said,
2 months ago
The Bush plans for a “defensive missle system was a joke and only used to antiganize Russia. The EU, of which Poland is a member, decided that if there were to be a disagreement between east/west they didn’t care to be the playing field.
mroberts88 said, 2 months ago
The simple thing is, we need to protect ourselves from Nukes. Yes, diplomacy is good, it should be our first option. However, if the censored hits the fan, and nukes are launched, we should protect ourselves.
jmworacle said, 2 months ago
Amazing how the “eco-warriors” seem to think that they are exempt from the guidelines they want other people follow……………
GJ_Jehosaphat
said,
2 months ago
I don’t pay much attention to the so-called “Eco-warriors”. I just want to save $$ & have a nice clean environment. Don’t trust those liberals - here’s some advice from the folks at Chevron:
“Ten Easy Ways to Conserve Energy”
“Conserving energy not only saves you money, it saves valuable resources and protects the environment by reducing greenhouse gas emissions. There are many things you can do conserve energy everyday.”
http://www.chevron.com/deliveringenergy/efficiency/whatyoucando/
Saving energy is good PR - so what’s Carl’s problem with the “Greenies”. Check the air in your tires and get one of those Automatic Thermostats to reduce your heating/cooling costs make sense.
Before you think I’ve had a stroke or something that makes me think Chevron gone Green - there’s those pesky lawsuits down in South America that don’t make the headlines here:
“…Texaco – which merged with Chevron in 2001 – deliberately dumped more than 18 billion gallons of toxic wastewater into Amazon waterways and abandoned more than 900 unlined waste pits filled with oil sludge….”
http://yubanet.com/life/Amazon-Watch-Launches-Campaign-To-Promote-CRUDE-The-Film-Chevron-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-See.php
I don’t worry the small stuff - wonder how the Prince William Sound is doing after the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill - it’s been 20 years & is still considered toxic…
http://www.evostc.state.ak.us/
Contrarian said, 2 months ago
GJ
I find sometimes that links are so long that they don’t always work.
For example, you can abbreviate the yubanet.com link…
http://yubanet.com/life/Amazon-Watch-Launches-Campaign-To-Promote-CRUDE-The-Film-Chevron-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-See.php
…so that it looks like this:
yubanet.com