Shoe by Chris Cassatt and Gary Brookins
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Llewellenbruce said, about 1 month ago
Health insurance is getting to be about that bad.
Yukoner said, about 1 month ago
Maybe then, a public health care system is the answer.
EarlWash said, about 1 month ago
Life? Maybe too hard a life.
sjoujke said, about 1 month ago
Well, if he’s dead, he won’t need health insurance.
BigChiefDesoto said, about 1 month ago
Hey, that’s the republican plan! If you haven’t got Cheney’s money, don’t get sick!
BC13
said,
about 1 month ago
Try AARP
jrbj said, about 1 month ago
Actually AARP betrayed us and I, like several thousand other seniors, sent back our AARP cards and resigned from the organization. The Public Option is financed on the backs of seniors who are losing their Medicare Advantage Program and half a trillion out of Medicare. We’re told that doctors charge too much for what they do for seniors. Wrong! I just came out of the hospital and the total bill was 13 thousand dollars for a two day stay. Medicare only paid a little over 3 thousand and I paid 400 for my deductable. All the rest the hospital and doctors had to eat. If the government pays any less, seniors will be refused service. It’s bleeep sure not the Republicans that are killing us - especially seniors.
When you find yourself with stage 2 cancer and it takes six months to be scheduled for an operation 12 months in the future just take time to remember that you said the Public Option was the answer to our health care problems. On the other hand, we can enact tort reform, let insurance companies really compete and do business across state lines and we can form insurance pools for the poor. That, and things like that, will bring down the cost of insurance and will provide for those who can’t afford to pay.
If you really want the government take care of you from the cradle to the grave, instead of taking responsibility for yourself, there’s a place you can go that does that. It’s called Russia. I doubt that you’d like it there.
Susan001 said, about 1 month ago
I’m on SSD and Medicare. As such, I’m considered “uninsurable”.
Just as well. All that would happen is that I’d have to pay outrageous premiums, and then when I’d need reimbursement, the company would renege.
Happens every day.
cabrobst said, about 1 month ago
So let the hospital eat it. 13 thou is obscene, it’s obviously a fake charge. How could it cost that much?
Another area that needs to have their fake and excessive charges shoved down their throats is insurance companies. But our elected representatives are too busy taking bribes from them to vote the way the vast majority of the American people want.
Only in America is profiteering seen as the answer to public health.
Devonshade
said,
about 1 month ago
jrbj,..your drivel is senseless and selfishsly driven. Your mis-facts are stolen from of a Limbaugh rant full of lies and innuendo. Your stupid plan would just further allow the insurance nazi’s to kill off more elderly and the poor. Go tea bag some other stupid and/or rich republicans.
bartbuzz said, about 1 month ago
You can tell when the name callers are losing an argument.
FishStix said, about 1 month ago
The modern American: Whine, whine, then whine some more! Gosh, it gets tiring. Devonshade, your comment was the usual liberal rant and name calling we expect when liberals lose the debate - as liberals usually do.
For years I watched AARP promote every social program conceivable. I’m pleased that I never joined that bunch of socialists.
CogentModality said, about 1 month ago
Devonshade
Just because somebody you don’t approve of says something first doesn’t necessarily make them wrong.
Take this comment from Saul Alinski for example, “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”
Lewreader
said,
about 1 month ago
Insurance companies-Profits- bad bad bad
Wages-profits- bad bad bad
Average workers IRAs- profits bad bad bad
Savings accounts- profits- bad bad bad
NO PROFITS- NO MEDRFCAL ADVANCES- GOOD GOOD GOOD
theR0nin said, about 1 month ago
“You can tell when the liberals are losing an argument.”
Fixed that for you.
GJ_Jehosaphat
said,
about 1 month ago
NO PROFITS - NO MEDRFCAL ADVANCES - NO SPELL CHECK - BAD BAD BAD
BTW - some medical advances come from government spending. From Student Loans & Grants (Medical Schools & Hospitals) to Funding R&D Projects and Test Trials - Tax $$ have made it possible for many advances in Health Care -
R U ready to get in line for your Flu Shot?
“U.S. to Spend $1 Billion on H1N1 Flu Vaccine Production”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203771904574181343250485958.html
Joe Allen Doty said, about 1 month ago
I sort of have Medicare as a back-up and the premium for it is paid by the federal government through a state Medicaid program handled by the state DHS.
Under regular circumstances, I get almost all of my medical needs through the VA hospital and clinic.
But, in April 2005, when the local VA Out Patient Clinic was still taking walk-ins, I fell and needed some emergency care. There was no way that I could make it to the Tulsa clinic in time; so, I went to a local hospital ER.
Although I told them that I was getting my care from the VA, they already knew that I had Medicare since I had gone there for an MRI of my head. Because I suffered a head trauma when I had been assaulted from behind and hit in the back of and sides of the head, Claremore Indian Hospital sent me to that hospital for the MRI under a contract program.
Well, instead of charging anything to the VA, they went the Medicare route and I had to use my credit cards to pay for the ER doctors and nurses who were not actually the hospitals employees. Medicare only covered a part of the treatment.
The patient coordinator (or whatever he was called) told me after I told him about what happened, “Next time you go to a different ER and tell them you get all of your medical services from the VA and don’t even have your Medicare card with you.”
So, if I have any type of emergency in the future, I am going to one of the 2 Roman Catholic Church owned hospitals and tell them what he told me to say.
The RCC hospitals here in Tulsa are mega-complexes and they own a lot of property. One of them even owns a retirement complex with houses, too; but, poor people cannot even afford to live there.
When a person with no insurance shows up at one of them for treatment, they request that state Medicaid reimburse them for that.
Church owned businesses should not ask the government for financial assistance. Besides, Christians are supposed to help poor people without expecting something in return.
Joe Allen Doty said, about 1 month ago
AARP used to be a supplemental health insurance program for those who were at least 65 years old.
Now they have members who join when they turned 50 years old, whether they are retired or not.
EarlWash said, about 1 month ago
For reasons previously stated, I too would like to dump AARP and have been scampering for a good alternative for auto and home insurance rates. Any ideas from any of you would be appreciated.
The same for AAA, for reasons they direct my payments to liberal organizations I disaprove of. And yes, I have that right!
Nelly55 said, about 1 month ago
EarlWash, yes you do
As do I. And I have pulled my $$ out of every corp. I can that funds the Rightwing.
I’m tired of hearing “I’ve got mine, screw you” attitude toward my fellow human beings
WWJD?
Rmom said, about 1 month ago
EarlWash
• American Seniors Association (ASA) is a conservative alternative to AARP. By the way, ASA is offering any senior that sends in a torn AARP card a special deal that provides them with a two-year membership for the price of one year.
Please let me know if you find a conservative competitor to AAA.
jimpow said, about 1 month ago
Earl Walsh: Try 21st Century (now a member of Farmers Group)
Mxyxptlk said, about 1 month ago
Public Health Care - you can buy better, but you can’t pay more.
BTW, the concept of rights is totally misunderstood by most people. Every person is born with every right to do anything. That’s what freedom is. Every person gives up some rights for various reasons, usually moral.
Take theft. I give up my right to steal from you and in return you give up the same right. It’s a fair trade to live in a society where everyone doesn’t have to experience theft on a daily basis.
No one has the right to forcibly take rights from anyone else. The US constitution is a document that prohibits the state from forcibly taking rights from the people, not giving rights to people. People already possess the rights. That’s why there’s not an amendment that prohibits the state from preventing people from stealing from each other. That right has already been given up by mutual consent. The 2nd amendment, for example, says the state can not prevent me from arming myself for my own protection. I never gave up that right because the moral agreement between most people allows that this is acceptable.
The point is mutual agreement. If some want to give up the right to bear arms, fine. But you can not forcibly make me give up the right. Nor can the state, 2nd amendment or not, forcibly make me give up the right. Laws requiring a license to carry a concealed weapon, besides being unconstitutional, violate the right I was born with.
Unfortunately, the reality is that we are all wage slaves. Asking the state to reduce taxes, for example, is like a chattel slave asking his master to be less cruel.
The US system of government was a good try, but it has failed. It’s taken a couple centuries, but it has failed. Reform is not possible because too many have too much vested interest. Corruption is rampant. Taxation, while legal by the states definition, is still theft and it’s immoral. There is nothing the state does that can not be done better by private industry. I’m not talking about corporations. Corporations as they exist today are just extensions of the state.
Taxation is THEFT. If everyone stopped paying taxes, the state would soon implode. But that won’t happen becase of the states monopoly on violence. Refuse to pay and you will be destroyed. Agorism is the only method left to bring about the downfall of the state.
Ushindi
said,
about 1 month ago
What a truly AMAZING group of comments on a cartoon.
BigChiefDesoto said, about 1 month ago
Any way you figure it, insurance, ANY insurance, is socialism whether it’s run by the government or private for profit insurance companies. Because it socializes the risk to spread the risk among the populace so people can afford to buy the insurance. Everybody contributes a little to the insurance fund so that someone ( and it may be you ) who has a catastrophic loss isn’t economically devastated.
The advantage of having the government run the insurance system, EVERY insurance system, is that THEY WON’T throw “grandma and grandpa” to the wolves when there is too much chance that the insurance might just have to pay out something to “grandma and grandpa”, like the private for profit insurance companies do all the time.
If you think I’m kidding, just look at what it costs for PRIVATE health insurance for people over 65 who don’t have access to Medicare!
Taiwan has the best health care insurance system of anywhere in the entire world. It’s a government run SINGLE PAYER national health care system that works very well.
Go here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
Down at the bottom at the left click on “watch online”
From the menu that comes back, click on “4 Taiwan: A New System They Copied from Others”
Listen to it. It’s only eight minutes long. You’ll learn something.
“It has state of the art IT, gives equal access to all, free choice of doctors, NO WAITING, lots of competition among providers, and the government runs the financing for it.” The doctor gets paid instantly from the computer system that handles the whole thing off of a smart card that each person has, and there is NO PAPERWORK for the doctor to have to do!! AND it costs less than half of what WE spend on health ‘we don’t’ care!!
What’s there to not like about it?
It works.
NoBrandName said, about 1 month ago
Indeed. The farce is strong here today.
shogun124 said, about 1 month ago
re mx you know the rest, while the United States systems of government does have a lot of problems and does stink, its best part is that it is way better than any form of government to be found on Earth. BTW, what would you replace it with?
cholldekkgher stenst... said, about 1 month ago
His pre-existing condition was breathing. Guess he wasn’t allowed to do that.
Just plain Steve said, about 1 month ago
Okay, one more time.
jrbj, you don’t have to go to Russia, Canada offers the same horrid medicare, and the lifestyle isn’t too bad either. Canadian rich are still rich, Canadian poor aren’t as poor as American poor, and Canadians don’t die in the gutter because they can’t afford medical aid. Try it, you may like it!
EarlWash said, about 1 month ago
My sincere than you to those fed me back info on insurance outlets. It is greatly appreciated and will follow up these leads. Thanks again.
LameRandomName said, about 1 month ago
Yes, AARP, much like Devonshade, should be ashamed of itself. The current US Government, I won’t call it “our” government, should be ashamed of itself as well. It’s obvious why they are trying to rush everything through so fast…
They’re afraid we’ll read it! Well too late, I already have. And that Senator should not have apologized for calling Obama a liar, because he DID lie.
Mxyxptlk said, about 1 month ago
You are right LRN. I asked my reps why they too didn’t join Joe Wilson. One lone voice against a narcissist like BO doesn’t work. He has to be shouted down by many.
Shogun124, in an agorist society, government is not needed. Private enterprise and a free market can provide everything the state now provides; better and cheaper.
The entire population of the US has been brainwashed for years to accept as normal what the masters want. Try not believing what the MSM says.
BCD, here’s what’s not to like - it’s just one more freedom taken away.