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  1. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    But that’s just the problem, we have forgotten our Lord. The people of this country have been largely raised in a school system that tells them they come from nothing, are going back to nothing, and that life is ultimately meaningless and without purpose. What do we expect is going to happen? Too many point to inanimate objects like the gun rather than the moral decline that this nation has been experiencing for some time.

  2. 5+8=64

    5+8=64 said, over 3 years ago

    KILL ALL BAD GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    Since you are obviously an atheist, do tell me what your basis for morality is that allows you to even call this “wrong.” Also, since we are just random collections of atoms, glorified pond scum in the atheistic worldview, then this guy (and others like him) was doing nothing more than just scattering atoms. As for such tragic occurences, we are still taking the consequences of rejecting our Creator and telling him we can run things better than him. This kind of horror is a direct consequence of our own foolishness. Not doing such a good job, are we?

  4. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, over 3 years ago

    ^you have no place judging another on their morals. the fact that you do so in such a way proves you have none. I guess you didn’t listen to the new town interfaith services where the clergy invited those that had any religious views or none. Morality, knowing right from wrong, does not necessarily come from the church. there is much to prove that it exists inspite of the church.

  5. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    @dannysixpack

    Fail. I am not “judging” others on their morals, but pointing out that the atheist has no valid standard for objective morality. To have such a standard requires a source both outside of and above human beings. Therefore it is not “my” morals I am espousing people follow, but God’s. As for “interfaith,” this sounds like the concept some put forth that all religions are equally valid. This is, however, totally illogical. Every religion/worldview contradicts the others at some fundamental level (which is why they are referred to as “different” religions). Therefore at most only one can be correct. It is unreasonable to consider that conflicting information can all be equally valid. Truth is, by its very nature, exclusive, and anything that differs from the truth is by definition false. You have not provided a valid source for objective morality. All you have said is that it does not necessarily come from the church. On this we agree. It comes from God.

  6. runar

    runar said, over 3 years ago

    Fail. I am not “judging” others on their morals, but pointing out that the atheist has no valid standard for objective morality. To have such a standard requires a source both outside of and above human beings. Therefore it is not “my” morals I am espousing people follow, but God’s.

    Double Fail. I’d rather trust someone who does the right thing because he believes it is right than someone who does the right thing because he’s terrified of burning in some imaginary hell after he’s dead.

  7. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    @runar

    And once again the point is missed. Christians ARE doing the right thing because it IS the right thing, not out of fear of punishment. Unlike Christians, atheists have no basis to think that ANYTHING is right or wrong, so your comment is utterly without meaning since you failed to provide a valid basis for objective morality. Without that, you cannot comment on a moral issue and have it carry any meaning whatsoever. For the Christian, there actually exists such things as right and wrong, not so for the atheist, who also lacks a basis for free will, a reason to trust their own randomly derived brain and senses, an answer to infinite regression and how something could therefore pop into existence from nothing, etc. Atheism is highly contradictory and illogical.

  8. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, over 3 years ago

    @exoticdoc2

    A gross and bigoted statement about athiests. Morality has nothing to do with your god.

  9. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    You never tire of being wrong… or dodging the issue, do you? America’s decline did NOT start because we followed God, but because we have drawn further and further AWAY from doing so. Notice the trend. And the other industrialized countries are no prime choices for morality since they kill their own children and the elderly at an alarming rate. And you STILL failed to provide a valid basis for even calling anything wrong. Without a valid basis for objective morality anything you say on the subject is utterly meaningless. Note that is is the atheistic regimes that have been the bloodiest in history, dwarfing all the “religious” killings put together. When someone commits such an atrocity while calling themselve a Christian, they are going against the tenets of Christianity. When it is done by an atheist, or Muslim for that matter, it is perfectly consistent with that worldview.

  10. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, over 3 years ago

    ^sophistry. another hateful bigot.

    apparently you can only be ‘moral’ if you believe what he says.

    wanna buy more snake oil?

  11. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    How is it obvious you are an atheist? Your own words mocking Christ’s promise to be with us always, asking where he was when we were taking the consequences of our own foolishness and arrogance, and then saying you want to vomit. Not the words of any real Christian, but it is no wonder one would take you for an atheist, or at the least the follower of some other false religion. Now, you managed to explain absolutely nothing that I had not previously considered, for you stated nothing worth considering. Pond scum does not work together for the benefit of its community, for it is mindless, possesses no free will, and therefore no morality, so your comparison only damages your own case. If we are nothing but glorified pond scum we are in the same boat. Our lives are ultimately without meaning or purpose, and since free will is a prerequisite for morality, there cannot be any such thing as right or wrong. Now, as for your supposed “flaws” in reasoning that this is the consequence of our rejecting our Creator, you have made the error of assuming that a specific sin fits a specific punishment. The first human rejected following God’s advice, in essence telling God that we could make decisions better without him, that we would be better off running things our way, and this tragedy and every other heinous act throughout history is the direct result of that thinking. ALL humans are fallen as a result. It is sad that children must live in the fallen world humans created for themselves, but there is no escaping the fact that we brought it on ourselves. What we are doing is NOT “exploring our independence” as you try to put it. This is outright rebellion against the one who created us, gave us life, gave us every good things, and in return we spat in his face. Under no obligation to rescue us from our own foolishness, God nevertheless gave us a way out, and all we have to do is accept it. Nothing could be simpler. There are no “tools of the devil” as far as inanimate objects are concerned. It is the use to which they are put that is the issue, and misuse stems from FALLEN HUMANS and not from the inanimate object. The criminals do not care about laws, they will have the weapons anyway. All the laws will do is take away the means for the law-abiding citizen to defend themselves. It would create a wonderfully profitable underground for weapons just as prohibition did with alcohol. Inanimate objects are NOT the problem, people are. Instead foolishly blaming an inanimate object try pointing to the root of the problem. We live in a society where now the schools teach people they come from nothing, are going back to nothing, and that life is ultimately devoid of meaning and purpose. What do we expect the result is going to be? And I would not be so quick to state what you think Jesus would be doing. When he sent forth his disciples, Christ instructed them to take a sword with them. He knew they would be traveling in some dangerous areas and that self-defense/a deterrent might be needed at times. Doesn’t sound like the claim you make at all. I’d say you know a good deal less than you think you do.

  12. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    @Chillbilly

    And yet you, like all others, fail to provide a valid basis for objective morality within atheism. It does not and cannot exist. God is a source both outside of and above human beings, a valid source. If not God then where do you propose to come up with a valid source? Hurling insults is no substitute for reason.

  13. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, over 3 years ago

    @dannysixpack

    And again you, I suspect being purposely obtuse, miss the point. I do not say to believe what I say when it comes to morality, but to look to God. You still utterly fail to provide a valid source for objective morality apart from God. Until you can provide that, all comments you make on moral issues are without meaning. Atheism is highly illogical. Within atheism there is no free will, because any “choices” we make are simply the result of chemical reactions in our randomly derived brains going off a certain way in response to a certain stimuli. Without free well there can be no morality because you cannot hold someone responsible for their actions if they had no real choice in the matter. You can’t have it both ways.

  14. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, over 3 years ago

    ^only christians can be moral. everyone else is sub-human.

  15. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, over 3 years ago

    don’t you love they way the religious nuts throw around words like “Atheist” and “liberal” as if they are curse words?

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