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Robert Ariail

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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 11 months ago

    Just putting curtains on the Bush NSA.

  2. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 11 months ago

    @dtroutma

    Two presidents, from both major parties, strongly support the NSA’s efforts to keep all Americans safe from the army of goatherds armed with sinister staffs, and they know much more than you do (and they can’t lie, since whatever the US President says, while in office, has been ruled as true by the US Senate, who said that Clinton NEVER lied, the President’s Word trumps a DNA test on a stain on a blue dress).


    However, it does appear that major reforms will allow the NSA to continue protecting all Americans while guaranteeing that it never engages in any illegal invasions of our privacy.

  3. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, 11 months ago

    Why is it that the first reaction (Trout) is to point a finger at someone else? Does the fact that American Intelligence agencies have spied on, collected information and used illegal tactics to classify and document the American public since their inception justify the practice NOW since Obama has continued that practice even though he promised to change the way business was done in DC ???

    WE are to blame for letting this situation get out of control.

    And you Sharuniboy should reflect on the history of your ancestors. Here, read this tid-bit:

    http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/03/17/irish-americans-racism-whiteness/

    Do you really think that the personal scrutiny that we must endure today is OK? Are you one that would “freely give” away your right to privacy for security? Would your prefer to be returned to the plight of your ancestors?

    Better quit seeing exaggeration in others comments and yes you SHOULD consider the words of the men that were honest and courageous enough to form a “more perfect union” and begin the “grand experiment” that is the USA.

    We are fast becoming a mere reflection of the world at large rather than a shinning light on the hill.

  4. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, 11 months ago

    @Sharuniboy

    Here are some more for your consideration:

    Because power corrupts, societies demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases. – John Adams

    But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. – John Adams

    But, ah, think what you do when you run in debt: you give another power over your liberty. – Benjamin Franklin

    The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. – Patrick Henry

    History does indeed repeat itself……

  5. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, 11 months ago

    But if the President does it, it’s not illegal… Richard Nixon.
    And what does someone’s ancestors’ history have to do with what they have learned from it? It appears you neither misunderstood sharuniboy’s comment, or are you trying to mislead others.

  6. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, 11 months ago

    Oops! That should be EITHER, not neither!

  7. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, 11 months ago

    @edinbaltimore

    Really? What about my comment – just having a conversation here dude – to Sharuniboy wiuld “mislead” others?

    Nixon was a crook. He did the CYA lie all the time, was profane in his protestations and resigned in ignominy. Just an everyday politician.

    It is good to reflect on your roots. It gives perspective.

    As it happens, I agreed with his comment but not the “tone”…….you?

  8. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 11 months ago

    The cumulative increases in the “right to spy” in this country goes back to Nathan Hale (a “traitor” at the time against the “current government”), while the Constitution was amended to demand WARRANTS, the incease in technology has complicated that “persons and papers”, and who actually OWNS the data/information. Since at least WW II and the OSS, the division of foriegn vs domestic “spying” has also been contentious, only aggravated by some idiocies written into the “Patriot Act”, rushed through of course in the panic after 9/11, which should NOT have been signed as written.


    My original point is that current “window dressing” is just an effort to clean up, not eliminate, what’s been done in the past. In a “enviornomentalists” book, “On the Loose”, Terry Russel says it best: “God secure me from security, forever.”


    It is our fetish with “security” that has cost us that security.

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