No Man, Zippy (& I guess Debt Free, since he says it’s “Truth”)Your claims are pathetic, half baked lies, spouted by racist pigs. I usually try to avoid such language to describe other posters, but this spew of disgusting venom needs to be answered. Mandela & the early ANC did espouse Marxist ideals, but so did the folks who went on to form the governments of Ireland & Israel in their early, revolutionary periods. What Mandela thought in 1960 was very different from the thoughts of the man who emerged from nearly 3 decades of imprisonment. Even then, he was more interested in equality & democracy than nationalizing South Africa. By the time Mandela was released he had the benefit of seeing the disasters that nationalization caused in other African countries.http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-political-economy/what-nelson-mandela-thought-about-nationalisationMandela was moving from non-violent protest to believing that the only way to gain freedom was by meeting violence with violence. The ANC started using sabotage & destruction of property as a means of political protest, but expressly disavowed killing civilians as counter-productive. Mandela seems to have been planning a guerrilla resistance to the state. George Washington was probably one of his role models.Mandela was arrested for organizing strikes & leaving the country without permission. He entered a “plea in mitigation of sentence”, saying that he was, “a black man in a white man’s court.” He was sentenced to five years. At the time, the South African government wasn’t aware of the full extent of his leadership role in the ANC. When they uncovered documents that gave them more information on the ANC’s plans to destroy infrastructure as a means of disrupting the government, Mandela & nine others were put on trial. Mandela plead not guilty.http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-12-10-mandela-on-trial-the-ethical-core/#.UqalIWRDtYsThe ANC went on to commit ruthless acts against suspected informers & people considered a threat to the organization. During this time, Mandela was on Robben Island, breaking limestone with a sledgehammer. Newspapers were forbidden. Mandela was allowed one letter & one visit every six months, both under close scrutiny by prison staff. There isn’t a shred of evidence that Mandela was even aware, let alone had a hand in the ANC’s despicable acts at the time.No Man’s “source” is Peter Hammond. As for him, “If you believe Christ wants a holy war to preserve apartheid, the Reverend Peter Hammond is your general, his Frontline Fellowship your army,” wrote the National Catholic Reporter in 1989.Despicable, racist propoganda.
No Man, Zippy (& I guess Debt Free, since he says it’s “Truth”)Your claims are pathetic, half baked lies, spouted by racist pigs. I usually try to avoid such language to describe other posters, but this spew of disgusting venom needs to be answered. Mandela & the early ANC did espouse Marxist ideals, but so did the folks who went on to form the governments of Ireland & Israel in their early, revolutionary periods. What Mandela thought in 1960 was very different from the thoughts of the man who emerged from nearly 3 decades of imprisonment. Even then, he was more interested in equality & democracy than nationalizing South Africa. By the time Mandela was released he had the benefit of seeing the disasters that nationalization caused in other African countries.http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-political-economy/what-nelson-mandela-thought-about-nationalisationMandela was moving from non-violent protest to believing that the only way to gain freedom was by meeting violence with violence. The ANC started using sabotage & destruction of property as a means of political protest, but expressly disavowed killing civilians as counter-productive. Mandela seems to have been planning a guerrilla resistance to the state. George Washington was probably one of his role models.Mandela was arrested for organizing strikes & leaving the country without permission. He entered a “plea in mitigation of sentence”, saying that he was, “a black man in a white man’s court.” He was sentenced to five years. At the time, the South African government wasn’t aware of the full extent of his leadership role in the ANC. When they uncovered documents that gave them more information on the ANC’s plans to destroy infrastructure as a means of disrupting the government, Mandela & nine others were put on trial. Mandela plead not guilty.http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-12-10-mandela-on-trial-the-ethical-core/#.UqalIWRDtYsThe ANC went on to commit ruthless acts against suspected informers & people considered a threat to the organization. During this time, Mandela was on Robben Island, breaking limestone with a sledgehammer. Newspapers were forbidden. Mandela was allowed one letter & one visit every six months, both under close scrutiny by prison staff. There isn’t a shred of evidence that Mandela was even aware, let alone had a hand in the ANC’s despicable acts at the time.No Man’s “source” is Peter Hammond. As for him, “If you believe Christ wants a holy war to preserve apartheid, the Reverend Peter Hammond is your general, his Frontline Fellowship your army,” wrote the National Catholic Reporter in 1989.Despicable, racist propoganda.