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Robert Ariail

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  1. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    Why the constant political gotchas that in the total scheme of things are irrelevant? Who cares if Obama’s wording was unintentionally not perfect. That’s not what’s important. A person dies every 20 minutes in America because they lack affordable health care. That’s 72 people today, yesterday, and tomorrow. About 26,000 annually – about eight 9/11s every year. And the Republicans are determined it will stay that way. Imagine the reaction and the billions spent if those 72 people who died today for lack of affordable health care were killed by a Muslim terrorist. No wonder America is decades behind every other developed nation in providing affordable quality health care. Too many have their priorities screwed up.

  2. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Or diabetes
    Or heart arrhythmia
    Or kidney disease
    The ER’s requirement is to stabilize the patient. After that, they are sent on their way and they are billed.

  3. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    Seems to be the favourite conservative reaction that if you don’t like something you call it a lie. (…in common parlene that is called lying…." You don’t happen to mean “parlance” do you?)
    Unfortunately 72 people dying every day (26,000 annually) because they lack affordable health care is all too true, although we can quibble about the exact number. Urban Institute says 22,000. Harvard Medical School says 44,800. I heard just yesterday on TV the figure is 26,000. I went with the lower number, although Harvard could very well be right. Rather than the accusations of lying and the fascist name-calling, why don’t you lend your support to badly needed reforms and actually do something for the good of Americans?

  4. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago


  5. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    “…….So the same 26,000 people will die with ACA insurance. That will make them feel better……”
    That’s 26,000 people who die of treatable conditions that if they had access to affordable health care would live. (Harvard Medical School study says the number is 45,000)

  6. ossiningaling

    ossiningaling said, almost 3 years ago


    There’s no profit in affordable healthcare. But there is profit in insufficient coverage and emergency care.

  7. echoraven

    echoraven said, almost 3 years ago


    Try this article:
    What is particularly chilling is that the Soviet Union’s socialized health care system to some degree mimics the way our public schools are. Rich neighborhoods get the best stuff vs. the poorer neighborhoods that have to curb programs for insufficient funds.

  8. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    “So the same 26,000 people will die with ACA insurance. That will make them feel better.”
    This is something you honestly believe?

  9. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago


    Interesting, but hardly a good critique of health care systems when you compare the U.S. system to the failed Soviet health care system in the failed Soviet State. There are much better and less ideological comparisons of some very successful health care systems around the world. Most health care systems around the world are not socialist systems, even though they may have government involvement via regulation or single-payer. With most, the doctors are private practitioners and hospitals are often community or faith based operations.
    One of the most socialistic systems on the planet is the U.S. DVA where government doctors in government clinics dispense government drugs, and no bills for the patients to pay. Costs are low and the users seem to like their health care services. The system can’t be too un-American if the government would choose it for their military veterans.

  10. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Once again corARYAN misstates the truth. The “cuts” to Medicare were NOT cuts to benefits, but an attempt to weed out OVERPAYMENTS to shady practitioners!
    BTW: Obama (or Bush, Clinton, Reagan) is NOT who determines a cost of living allowance. Why don’t YOU just STOP spending so damned much for your lifestyle?
    See, I can be a Tea Partier with the correct presentation!

  11. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    ^^ Not to mention that she wants (gasp) MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING! On her.

  12. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, almost 3 years ago


    I feel your pain…….however, the ACA is NOT the panacea you want it to be.

    You cry "we need “affordable” health care. OK, I agree. Show me how the ACA universally makes health care affordable. Maybe it provides availability of insurance for some that did not have it before, BUT it is sat the expense of MILLIONS of people that have seen their costs go up sharply IF they want to have the same level of coverage that they now have. Why even MY copay and out of pocket expenses have gone up 2K apiece for the wif and I each year.
    And me retired and on a fixed income. Yep, affordable.

    And then you say that 26K to 44K people die each year of “treatable” conditions. Hmmmm. Did these people not know that type 2 diabetes can be prevented by a simple lifestyle change? How about cancer? Heart disease? Your citation above from Harvard quotes a Dr. Wilper as saying “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

    Well I recon…..

    Do you think that it would be better if people would not life a lifestyle that makes them predisposed to developing these illnesses and thus preventing their untimely death that way? How would you regulate that and why would we need doctors and medications if no one got sick?

    But you notice that the good doctor said that people need to get into the office and take pills as the method to extend life. Kind of short sighted don’cha think?

    But you want the corrupt government officials who have a problem getting a simple web site on line after 3 years of preparation in charge of preventing your untimely demise.

    I hope you made it this far in my rant. Like I said at the onset, I feel your pain. As fellow humans we should do what we can to ease the pain and suffering of those less fortunate. However, we can do nothing to FORCE people which is want governments do and often to the detriment of a portion of the population.

    And Obama is now, always was and always will be a liar.

  13. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago


    “…..…….however, the ACA is NOT the panacea you want it to be…..”
    I absolutely agree that the ACA is not the universal panacea. I have said many times that the ACA is a start, it is not a finish. Obama got what was possible, not what he wanted. The many compromises to defend the incomes of Big Insurance and Big Medical assure that costs will continue to rise, but hopefully at a lower rate because of the competetive exchanges for health insurance.

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