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Robert Ariail

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  1. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    this appears to say that she cut up the constitution. Sorry, the patriot act did that back after 9/11/2001.
    the freedom of speech, the freedom of having the privacy in our own homes, the freedom of speech and of ( peaceable ,assembly,( 2 years ago). and the police state in Boston after the marathon. 9,000 police after 1 suspect.
    She is not responsible for all that.
    Our government has been growing into a plutocracy, rapidly descending to greed and power hungry bankers.
    those top .01% are behind both parties, and both sides of any wars.

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, about 1 year ago

    @Wabbit

    So your entire response to this toon is that we are losing our freedoms?

    You do understand that people high up in our government(including Ms Lerner) specifically targeted groups of people simply because their views did not agree with the current administration, right?

  3. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @ConserveGov

    they were looking at groups that were “social welfare” groups. that were claiming tax exempt status.
    I think they were suspicious that groups with “Tea party” and “Patriot” tend not to care about social welfare.
    Something about a clausee 501-3 VS clause 501-4.
    I don’t pretend to be real clear about IRS rules, but I did read something about that.
    I think this happened to liberals too, during a conservative administration over different things.
    it’s just how politics seems to work.

  4. mikefive

    mikefive said, about 1 year ago

    @Wabbit

    I hope this will clarify this a little for you and others. It’s from IRS publication 557.

    Social welfare. To establish that your organization is organized exclusively to promote social welfare, you should submit evidence with your application showing that your organization will operate primarily to further (in some way) the common good and general welfare of the people of the community (such as by bringing about civic betterment and social improvements).

    However, later in another part of the 501c4 part they throw in this proviso:

    ….it can obtain exemption even if it participates legally in some political activity on behalf of or in opposition to candidates for public office.

    There is, of course, a lot more in the IRS’s definition of a 501c4. What’s posted are excerpts.

  5. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, about 1 year ago

    @Wabbit

    Good point. The IRS is one of the most effective tools the executive branch has to disrupt its critics. This particular scandal is fairly minor compared with ordering repeated intensive audits of anyone who was trying to start effective negative discussions of administration policies, a technique used by several of our best and most effective presidents to keep order (e.g., Nixon).


    Some say the IRS wasn’t really targeting anyone, but one group submitted an application with ‘patriot’ in the name of the group applying, was rejected, changed ‘patriot’ to ‘green’ in the name (keeping everything else identical) and was immediately approved, so they were just looking at the name of the group, not reading the actual applications. That’s targeting. But granting or not granting 501( c)3 status is not nearly as disruptive as repeated audits, showing that Obama is not nearly as hard-working and effective as Nixon was.

  6. californicated1

    californicated1 GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    And after that snow-job testimony, what other fifths was she taking?

    My guess is that a fifth of gin was probably in there somewhere.

  7. Harleyquinn

    Harleyquinn GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    She needs a 5th of Gin maybe.

  8. mikefive

    mikefive said, about 1 year ago

    @Adrian Snare

    A request to be a 501c3 or c4 is not a request to be a political action group.

  9. Ruff

    Ruff GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @onguard

    Trying not to pay their fair share of taxes.

  10. SusanCraig

    SusanCraig GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @Wabbit

    I agree w/Wabbit, when the name declares political affiliation to a specific agenda, how can they claim social welfare? geez, that’s the IRS job! to scrutinize tax-exempt apps

  11. SusanCraig

    SusanCraig GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @Wabbit

    I agree w/Wabbit, when the name declares political affiliation to a specific agenda, how can they claim social welfare? geez, that’s the IRS job! to scrutinize tax-exempt apps

  12. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @mikefive

    Thanks for the clarification. I knew what it was about, and generally what document. But I didn’t know it could include some political activity.
    Things change so quickly, and much of it is secretly, or at least not told about.
    Like citizens united, nice name, but bad concept. I noticed that we never knew much, then out of no where it came, without the people being able to vote on it. Or at least I didn’t know about it beforehand.

  13. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Last week, the conservatives blamed Sarah Hall Ingram, this week it’s Lois Lerner. Next week, I’m sure they will be claiming it was Hillary.

  14. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    to onguard, I will list a few.
    threatening to leave secede GOT IT. takes so long to find correct spelling (I don’t blame my problem with spelling on the TP.;-) )

    To avoid taxes and love loop-hopes for the CEO’s,
    to obstruct all bills on principal, even con introduced bills.

    to put the party 1st. over the good of the people,to oppose taking care of our own poor and kids,kid’s education,to not care for the weakest in society, but to name-call.

    to be so anti women that you take away the domestic violence laws.

    To claim an exclusive right to be a Christian, yet don’t follow Jesus in his examples and words.

    To hate immigrants, a good many are well educated and can improve our nation.

    To be against some races.
    I heard a con call a lib racist. that must have been as a joke.

  15. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @mikefive

    All of these groups raced to get 501( c)4 status because it would allow them to operate without saying who funded them. The tax exemption was just a side perk.

    The sooner we realize this is the real scandal, the better.

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