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commented on Luann
about 1 month ago
Ooops on the double post. Apologies
So, activist1234, for you, sex is like punching people, eh? God, you’re weird. There is no nobility, no superiority, no morality in resisting natural impulses when there are two consenting adults. As neither Toni nor Brad have shown a single religious impulse, there is no reason not for them to have taken their relationship to physical intimacy.
LUANN: So was Toni referring to virginity in her “white, obviously” remark? That’s the topic today. As the strip is so ridiculously circumspect about sex, one has to look for clues in past iterations of similar situations. And there is a recent similar situation. After three years with Quill, Luann was considering going to New York with him, so the Evanses had Luann’s mom step into the limelight and say,
“Have you thought about protection? About disease and emotional consequences? What you’d do if the worst happened? Are you prepared to deal with parenthood? Your father and I struggled with this same thing while we were dating and we chose to abstain.”
And in the light of Mom DeGroot’s “we-waited-until-marriage-to-make-love” speech to Luann, it’s clear that the Evanses and Toni mean that she (and by extension, Brad) REALLY IS a virgin.
The strip really is that lame and emasculated.
In today’s comic, Toni says to B-wad, “You’re the one thing in my life that make me feel safe, stable, and sane.”
Ooooookkkay, crazy lady.
B-wad is the guy who:1) When he’s laid off, doesn’t know he can file for unemployment2) When a toddler in his care goes missing because B-wad’s been thinking about dating funtime, STARTS RIPPING THE WALLS OUT OF THE HOUSE3) While working in a “you-want-fries-with-that” franchise, squeals like a ten-year-old when given the headphones.4) Complains continuously about babysitting his girlfriend’s niece, and somehow translates that complaining into “wanting to adopt” her.5) Rewards and reinforces violent, antisocial behavior in his “niece”.6) Obsesses about bridal arrangements while completely ignoring his girlfriend’s emotional breakdown.
This is the person who “keeps you sane”? The person YOU JUST RAN AWAY FROM BECAUSE HE WAS DRIVING YOU INSANE?
LOGIC CIRCUITS FAIL! LOGIC CIRCUITS FAIL!
DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER!
Robot waves arms frantically, circuits popping and hissing in a shower of sparks, falls over BOOM!
commented on Luann
9 months ago
@Schrodinger’s Dog – One grope-fest in four years (though a good thing) does not cancel out Luann’s accepting Nancy’s "sex-is-such-a-terrible-and-dangerous-thing-and-you-are-far-too-young rant. Remember that Luann said, “Wow, I just learned a TON in twenty seconds!” And there’s the continued squicky dancing around sex in the strip, (ie. Gunther/Tiffany/Bernice). It’s been four years for Luann and Quill; he left Australia and his family for her; and he and she are 20 years old. It’s not that they HAVE to have sex — it’s just that the question has be addressed in an age-appropriate manner. And it would be good for the strip to do so.
Having Nancy talk to Luann as though she were fourteen isn’t appropriate and repeating arguments from the 1950’s just isn’t on. Either Luann is in Community College, or Luann is still in Grade 10.
Hmmp. Sorry for activating the cross-out feature.
@Pipe Tobacco: Thank you for your perspective. I agree about the relative amount (50-50) of active-copulators vs. feeling-their-way-in-the-sexual-minefield types - I was in University once, too. But the point I wished to make is that the Luann characters are not just “conservative” -- they’re actively dysfunctional in their attitude towards sex. And that’s an unhealthy viewpoint to show to the tweens that Evans writes for.
For instance, it wouldn’t be hard for the Evanses to non-explicitly write non-judgmentally about various levels of sexual activity (including zero, of course) engaged in by the main and peripheral characters.
But, again, presenting normal, appropriate sexual activity and/or desires as sick or dangerous does not do their readers a service. For instance, presenting a university dorm filled with adults as having a Sex Policeman (Bernice) is actively deceptive. And I object to that.
Y’know, I thought that Evans’ high-school Luann strips were cloying, smirking, and unrealistic about sex, but I could accept that because high-school sex is mostly infrequent, furtive, and awkward. But now — Luann, Quill, Bernice, Gunther, and Tiffany are all twenty-year-olds surrounded by other adults who are having sex like normal adults; and the Evanses, what with the “sex-is-a-dirty-terrible-and-dangerous-thing-you-only-do-with-person-you-love-after-the-age-of-thirty-and-after-signing-the-government-forms-which-acknowledge-your-participating-in-this-disgusting-act” speech from Mama deGroot, with Bernice dressing tighter-than-a-nun for bed and patrolling her dorm like the witchfinder-general, with Gunther ignoring Tiffany’s blatant, naked come-ons, with Quill beginning to express his unsurprising unhappiness with four-years-of-blue-balling, all of this has quickly made the strip a cornucopia of squicky sexual dysfunction.
And they don’t even seem to realize it.
commented on Luann
over 1 year ago
“Separate rooms” — that comment shows Bernice thinks like a 50-year-old parent; “separate rooms” never stopped any two people who actually want to!
commented on Luann
over 2 years ago
You CAN’T get into the PEACE CORPS unless you ALREADY have a DEGREE! She can enter the Peace Corps after she’s finished with Yale. And re: Gunther: would she give up Yale for that ONE KISS from Gunther?
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