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commented on Dick Tracy
10 days ago
The Unofficial GoComics Staton/Curtis Death ListAs compiled by boboscar, Tarry Plaguer, and AnyFaceNOTE: Names with a + were found dead or killed prior to the story start.+ Wormy & Thistledew (Reported dead in armory fire) 3/21/11Flyface 4/22/11The Fifth & Eddie Garcia (Caught in ’Thor’s Hammer’ beam weapon overload explosion) 4/25/11Earl (Flaky and Hot Rize’s innocent co-worker) 5/12/11Hot Rize (Asphyxiated in flour silo) 5/28/11Emma Parks (A.K.A. Ponytail Mk I) 6/14/11The 2 terrorists who tried to hire and double cross Morning Gloria 8/13/11Big Frost 10/20/11Apparatus Member (Killed by DoubleUp) 10/25/11 & fed to Tonsils 10/27/11Flakey Biscuits 10/29/11, confirmed 5/29/16 (of a heart attack brought on by Blaze’s murder attempt)+ Sizzler Sitzes (Hired by Kadaver to kill Charles Adams A.K.A. Baron Clovis in a hit and run. Was then shot and killed by Kadaver to keep him quiet) 10/31/11 identified 11/9/11Cueball 1/31/12Mr. Levitz (Doubleup’s main henchman in his first story; later killed by Kadaver to get Doubleup off) 3/13/12+ Vincent Vinyl 5/5/12 confirmed 5/11/12The 3 supporting members of the Mumbles Quartet (Car bomb explosion arranged by Abner Kadaver under Panda’s orders) 5/20/12Lt. Teevo (Fed to Muerte Vine by The Mushroom Lady) 7/8/12 confirmed 7/18/12Davey Mylar (A.K.A. Mr. Crime Mk II) 7/14/12 tombstone 9/30/12Panda (Tripped and fell into Tonsils’ tank under smoke cover released by Abner Kadaver, then eaten) 7/15/12 confirmed 7/23/12+ Arthur Curry (Aquarium director) 8/22/12Bookie (Measles’ partner) 10/14/12Measles (Overdose) 11/10/12+ Stephen Baux’s fiancée 2/8/13 identified 2/27/13Simon Baux A.K.A. Sweat Box (Struck by train during car chase) 2/24/13Diet Smith Industries Guard (Supposedly killed by Bardoll) 6/25/13 (Uncertain; shown lying on the ground and called a “casualty” on 6/29/13, but unconfirmed)Bardoll 7/7/13 confirmed 7/16/13Hy Pressure 9/28/13 confirmed 10/8/13Bill “Shortcake” Mitchell (Apparatus member) (never confirmed, but implied) 10/31/13Miles Mycroft (Garroted by Silver Nitrate, then fed to Lena the Hyena) 1/26/14Mr. Kolossal 4/30/14Ed Rosato (Never confirmed, but implied) 5/14/14Tabby Angus 5/28/14The Butcher of the Balkans A.K.A. Henrik Wilemse (Punjab placed his magic blanket over him, sending the Butcher on to “fly with the Maji” where none have ever returned) 7/27/14Axel’s “crack combat troops” (Implied to have all gone the same way as The Butcher of the Balkans a la Punjab) 9/30/14Axel (Blown up by Dr. Kenyon’s unstable experimental explosive) 10/5/14Otis (Killed by Gruesome) 12/5/14Mrs. Flattop (Flattened by 70-pound Film Canister thrown by Sprocket Nitrate in self-defense) 3/1/15 confirmed 3/6/15Cork 4/29/15 confirmed 5/1/15Fontane 5/6/15 confirmed 5/12/15Jimmy Choo Shooz (Sucked into undertow at Lake Prachett) 6/4/15Méliès (Accidentally shot with 50 caliber bullet – Possibly in right eye – By Apollo) 8/23/15 confirmed 8/31/15Rocket Munroe & Apollo (They would’ve been fatally shot by 9/12/15, on 9/13/15 it’s implied Venus is the only one on that floor still alive, on 9/21/15, Rocket & Apollo are among those on that floor who are identified.)Venus 9/22/15+ Vic Smith /John Cassaday 11/7/15+ Byron Orlock 11/16/15Freddy Capp 11/23/15The Hangman/The Brow’s Son/Alfred Brau, Jr. (caught and hanged in Tracy’s safety cable while trying to hang Tracy) 12/10/15Cheater Gunsmoke and his driver (crushed to death by Rikki Mortis’ special car) 7/19/16
Hey, BobOscar!Once it’s been confirmed in-strip, I’d like to request that – for specificity’s sake – cause of death be ammended to "Crushed to death by Rikki Mortis’ special car, The Vampire Mechanique …… or however it’s spelled.Sure thing, but unless it happens tomorrow (when I repost the list with all names boldfaced, not just the latest additions), I won’t repost the death list until the next time it needs an update (whether to take a name on or off the list).And it’s just “boboscar”, I don’t need any capitalization although I respect yours, AnyFace.
22ph said: “I guess the death list needs some updating.”JPuzzleWhiz replied: “If and when they’re pronounced dead.”Seemed like a pretty safe bet so I went and updated it anyway. If I’m wrong, I’ll repost the death list with their names no longer on it.
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11 days ago
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20 days ago
I’ve been wanting to post this about my death list all last week, but felt I couldn’t by all the real deaths going on last week involving both Tracy and cops.Thanks to Neil Wicks’ excellent search engine, we were able to find the strip where Mike Curtis confirmed that Venus and Melies were dead, but where he also revealed that, contrary to what might have seemed at the time, Apollo and the Munro brothers are all still alive. I don’t always read every comment of every strip, and this was the first time I had a chance to see it. So how does this affect my death list?The answer is: surprisingly little. I’ve decided the last word on whether a character is dead isn’t the author’s comments outside the strip, but within the strip itself. I mean this as no disrespect to Curtis, but simply because an author can always change his mind. I listed Rocket Munro and Apollo on the list because their deaths are what one would naturally assume just by reading the strip itself, the same reason I include Flaky Biscuits, Bill “Shortcake” Mitchell, and Ed Rosato on the death list even though Flaky’s death wasn’t confirmed until very recently, and the latter two have never had their deaths fully confirmed. It’s just what you’d naturally assume based on the strip itself. I will keep Rocket and Apollo on the death list until the strip itself reveals they’re still alive. On the day that happens, I will unhesitatingly repost the death list with their names no longer on it.One thing that has changed, is that I’ll be taking Drs. Sail, Ghote, and Flash Munro off the death list. The only reason they were ever on the death list in the first place is because of comments Curtis made at the time outside the strip. One would not naturally assume just by reading the strip itself that they were automatically dead, just that they were in a lot of trouble and could die at any minute. Curtis made comments at the time that we were never going to see them again, so when I made the death list I reluctantly included them on it. Here, Curtis is saying, “no one knows” what’s happened to them, which makes it at least possible that he has, or someday might, change his mind about never seeing them again. Right now, their fates are the same uncertain state as Mumbles and Flash’s two remaining brothers, Satellite and Sputnik. The last we saw of Mumbles, Satellite, and Sputnik, they were getting into fights with Punjab. Punjab has since been seen unperturbed, so he clearly won, but there’s been no sight or mention of the foes he vanquished, and Punjab does have a habit, established even in this strip, of using his magic blanket to have crooks “sent to the Magi” where none have ever returned i.e. might as well be dead. If that’s ever confirmed, their names will be added to the list. If they show up alive again, I won’t have to take their names off the list because they were never on it. The same will now hold true of the three lost in the Space Coupe.I’m not going to repost the death list today just to show Sail, Ghote, and Flash are no longer on it, because I don’t consider it important enough, They’re just some names that I now feel should never have been on it in the first place. The next time I repost the list, whether to take Rocket and Apollo off it on the day their survival is confirmed (I do feel their names belong on the list until the strip shows us otherwise because their deaths are just something one could naturally assume), or to add names to the list (seems inevitable with Abner around, even if it’s just himself who ends up dying), you won’t see their names on it.
commented on Dick Tracy
30 days ago
It’s the Abominably Alliterative Adversary!
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2011The Fifth & Flyface III (March 14-April 30)Hot Rize (May 1-June 2)Doubleup (June 3-25)B-B Eyes II (June 26-July 30)Morning Gloria (July 31-September 17)The Retelling of Tracy’s First Case (September 18-October 23)The Second Mr. Crime, B-B Eyes, Blaze Rize, Mumbles, Doubleup, & Abner Kadaver (October 24-December 2)Abner Kadaver is in a unique position among Tracy villains. As a profession hitman, he’s always taking orders from somebody, and they’ve always been main villains in their own right. So technically, Abner is never the “main” villain. But there are stories where he is the main focus, and whenever that is, I boldface his name.Putty Puss III (December 3, 2011-February 2,2012)Thunderchild (February 3-March 7)Blackjack (March 8-April 24)The Second Mr. Crime, B-B Eyes, Blaze Rize, Mumbles, Doubleup, & Abner Kadaver II (April 25-July 20)Mrs. Flattop (July 21-August 20)Phishface (August 21-September 28)Measles II (September 29-November 16)Broadway Bates II (November 17, 2012-January 5, 2013)Sweat Box (January 6-March 3)The Jumbler (March 4-April 16)The Return of Moon Maid (April 17-October 19)The Blackhearts, Mrs. Flattop, Abner Kadaver, & Blackjack (Octobr 20, 2013-January 4,2014)Silver & Sprocket Nitrate (January 5-March 19)Tabby Angus (March 20-May 31)The Search for Annie (June 1-October 12)Gruesome (October 13, 2014-January 18, 2015)Silver & Sprocket Nitrate and Mrs. Flattop (January 19-March 21)The Great Train Robbery (March 22-June 13)The Downfall of the Blackhearts and the Return and Rise of Mr. Bribery (June 14-October 11)Where it’s revealed that Mr. Bribery was the secret leader of the Blackhearts, making him the unseen main villain behind the Return of Moon Maid, Abner Kadaver’s second “solo” story, and the Great Train Robbery.Midnight Mirror Mystery (October 12-December 25)Specs & Spicy and the Return of the Ace of Spades (December 26, 2015-April 6,2016)Mrs. Notta Faller Chin Chiller, Blaze Rize, and Putty Puss (April 7-June 21)
Thanks, Neil Wick. As to our discussion of story beginnings and ends, it’s alright to disagree. It’s a polite disagreement where we both agree there’s no official “right” answer.And I politely disagree here on where the Notta story ends. I would end it a day earlier on June 21. I understand your reasoning that the 6/22 strip is both the end of the Notta story and the beginning of the current story, but I personally don’t like ending adventure strips that way, prefer ending a story on as much of a clean break as possible.One thing I think we can both agree on is that it isn’t until today that we could fully decide when the Notta story ended. On June 22, Notta is referred to while Tracy first brings up going on a vacation. For the next couple of days, Tracy continues talking about the vacation and mentions going to Europe, and we’re unsure where this is leading up to (if anything). And then, boom! Today, we learn that by chance or design (most likely design) Abner Kadaver is also going to Europe. And now we know that Tracy’s talk of vacation is the prologue to the next story.I’m going to post my table of contents for Curtis stories next.
Since this is the Notta Faller story is the second story in a row this year to have no deaths, it’s time to take a look back at all the stories Curtis & Staton have done where no one died. That is, where no death was confirmed or even implied. By “implied”, I mean where a death may not have been fully confirmed, but where in the absence of any further evidence, it’s the conclusion you’d naturally come to, where the only reason to doubt they died is the lack of final confirmation. If there’s any reason to doubt it besides the lack of confirmation, then to my mind, it’s not an implied death.The first such story was in their first year on the strip in 2011, with the initial return of B-B Eyes. He tried to kill Honeymoon, but thankfully failed.The next time this happened was in 2012, their most “squeamish” year, the only one with multiple stories where no one died. In both of the first two stories introduced that year, Thunderchild and Blackjack, the villains weren’t killed and didn’t kill anybody. In between these two stories, however, was a weeklong subplot of the Second Mr. Crime, where it was implied Abner Kadaver killed Doubleup’s henchman, destroying the prosecution’s case against Doubleup and resulting in his acquittal. The next deathless story was the debut of Mrs. Flattop. She only tried to kill one person, but if she’s succeeded, the strip would be over. The year closed with the return of Broadway Bates, and while he had his moll Belle shot, the last we saw of her she was getting medical attention, making her death uncertain, and by my standard, unimplied.A few months later, in early 2013, we had the Jumbler who wasn’t killed and didn’t kill anybody. And that was the last story we had with no confirmed or implied deaths for the next three years.Which leads us to this year with the Specs/Spicy story. While people may have been killed in the safe explosion at the climax of the story, no deaths were mentioned. The safecracker could have been killed in the blast, but since he saw the dynamite before it went off, it’s at least as likely that he turned and ran and managed to get far enough away from the blast that it didn’t kill him. The facts that Specs was injured in the blast but was still well enough to travel soon afterwards while Spicy appears to have survived unscathed add to the possibility that the blast wasn’t as deadly as it looked and that no one was killed. And now, the following story with Notta Faller and Blaze Rize. Although we did get a confirmed death in this story, it was from several years ago, readers’ time, with the confirmation of Flakey Biscuit’s death. Her death at the time had been so heavily implied that I’d included her on the Death List right from the start, but it had not been confirmed until now. Aside from this confirmed deaths, no one who was alive at the start of this story was dead by the end of it.
Yes, actually. There was this one time back in 1941 where Dick, Tess, and Pat went camping together and nothing bad happened to them. Of course, while they were gone from the City, Junior was being framed as a bicycle thief. More recently (since Curtis began writing the strip) the Tracys went on a vacation where they got friendly with another married couple heavily implied to be Popeye and Olive Oyle (Tess and Olive had fun comparing their spouses’ chins).
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