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  1. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha about 2 hours ago

    See, while you’re engaging in opinion, in my reply to echo I was engaging with facts.
    ATTENTION! – AGRESTIC PRESENTS THE FACTS AND ONLY THE FACTS. NEVER ANY PERSONAL ATTACKSJUST PLAIN FACTS.

    They might be a foreign concept for you.
    AH, AN INSULT.

    If so, I invite you to consult one of those dictionaries you’re so fond of trotting out every now and again.
    THANK YOU.

    (WHO SAYS I WAS ADDRESSING AGRESTIC?)
    Um, you did, unless “THAT’S NOT REALLY A QUALITATIVE (ORQUANTITATIVE) COMMENT – IT’S JUST BECAUSE YOU SAYSO. AND RATHER BELLIGERENTLY” was somehow not in reply to the quote you so helpfully placed directly above your shouting, said quote belonging to a certain commentator called agrestic.
    I’M NOT SHOUTING, RATHER, EVERYONE ELSE IS SQUEAKING TOO QUIETLY. AFTER ALL, INTERPRETATION IS INVOLVED HERE.

    Really, indie, sometimes I get the feeling you’re trying to rub two neurons together but keep missing.
    I DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO THATWOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN IN DETAIL?

    (AGRESTIC PLACES IMPORTANCE ON SPARRING WITH ME.)
    I don’t place importance on it.
    WHOA, BACKPEDALLING.
    I simply find it entertaining.
    DISMISSING AS UNIMPORTANT (ESPECIALLY WHEN LOSING AN ARGUMENT)

    You’re just so easy to nudge into high dudgeon.
    IT’S A GOOD THING YOU DON’T USE TWENTY FIVE CENT WORDS JUST TO SHOW OFF.

    Just, like, a little tiny poke with a pinky finger and away you go!

    LET’S FACE IT – YOU ONLY WISH AWAY I’D GO.

    BUT AGRESTIC DOESN’T LIKE ME TO COMMENT ON LALO, SO I’LL DO THIS FOR A WHILE (IT’S SO MUCH EASIER)

  2. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha about 4 hours ago

    Awww, look who’s back? And in fine form as always!
    THERE’S THE SARCASM.

    (note: ALL CAPS IS MY PERSONAL EXPRESSION.)
    And they suit you so well, indie! They’re like a window into your soul.
    PLAYING CONDESCENDING PSYCHIATRIST AGAIN.

    Or maybe economists and historians actually know what they’re talking about. Couldn’t be that, could it?
    IMPLYING THAT ONLY AGRESTIC KNOWS ALL, SEES ALL. BY THE WAY, ECONOMISTS HAVEN’T DONE TOO WELL FOR OUR ECONOMY LATELY, AND JUST KNOWING WHAT HISTORIANS HAVE LEARNED IS NOT PREVENTING SOME BAD TIMES EITHER.
    If so, huzzah for your active imagination!
    IMPLYING THAT ANYONE ELSE’S OPINION IS VALUELESS.
    What do I care if you tell me it’s not a qualitative… or quantitative… comment?
    WHO SAYS I WAS ADDRESSING AGRESTIC?

    Particularly when your whole business in these forums is to engage in fact-free blithering?

    SO WHERE ARE THE RULES THAT SAY WHAT WE CAN COMMENT?

    Okay, I care in that it’s quite comic, and a little bit humiliating for you.
    A SUPERIOR ATTITUDE IF THERE EVER WAS ONE.

    But hey, at least echo tried to play a pair of twos.
    FAINT PRAISE BUT IT’S ACCEPTABLE AS LONG AS YOU CONSIDER YOU’VE WON.

    Looks like you’re trying to sit at the table without any cards in your hand at all.

    APPARENTLY I HAVEN’T A CHANCE, AND YET AGAIN, AGRESTIC SPENDS A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY THE SAME AS IF I’M A THREAT.

    AGRESTIC HAS ALL THE ANSWERS, YET THERE’S LOADS OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN MANY AREAS OF THE WORLD’S PROBLEMS.

    IT’S POINTED OUT THAT I DON’T HAVE ANY ANSWERS BUT AGRESTIC PLACES IMPORTANCE ON SPARRING WITH ME.

    RATHER QUESTIONABLE USE OF RESOURCES, EH?

    (UNLESS OF COURSE AGRESTIC’S VALUE IS ALSO NOT MUCH)

  3. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha about 5 hours ago

    note: ALL CAPS IS MY PERSONAL EXPRESSION. FOR THOSE WHO THINK I NEED TO CONFORM, IT’S THEIR PROBLEM.
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    Fewer people working today than the day he took office
    False. Also, keep in mind that while employment numbers crashed hard from 2008–2010, this was as a direct result of what happened under the Bush administration.
    STILL BLAMING OTHERS, EH ? – HOW LONG BEFORE YOU RUN THAT COURSE?
    And keep in mind that the employment numbers would rebounded much more quickly had Republicans not blocked economic stimulus spending, though they were perfectly happy to bail out their Wall Street friends.
    A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS PRESIDED DURING CLINTON’S SO-CALLED ECONOMIC RECORD HIGH GROWTH.
    more people on public assistance
    Are you counting Social Security? Because as the population ages, there will be a steady increase in those numbers. Do you mean SNAP? Or unemployment? Those numbers went up sharply between 2008–2010, as a direct result of the financial crash that happened on Bush’s watch.
    ON BUSH’S WATCH? HOW COME BUSH IS BLAMED FOR HIS WATCH, BUT YOU DON’T DO THAT FOR OBAMA?
    Presently he is on par with Jimmy Carter for worst president in modern times.
    I’ll see your Jimmy Carter and raise you one GW Bush. What? I cleaned out your pot? Just fold and walk away, echo, just fold and walk away.
    THAT’S NOT REALLY A QUALITATIVE (OR QUANTITATIVE) COMMENT – IT’S JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY SO. AND RATHER BELLIGERENTLY.

  4. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha about 6 hours ago

    I base it on you and all those white folks who constantly complain that slavery is in the past, Jim Crow is in the past, Michael Brown was three weeks ago, refugee kids are so yesterday, the genocide of Native Americans is in the past, etc., etc.
    SO I TAKE IT YOU COMPLAIN THAT SLAVERY IS IN THE PRESENT?!
    AND YOU HAVEN’T EXPLAINED HOW I WOULD BE BENEFITING FROM FORGETTING. PLEASE LET ME KNOW, BECAUSE I WANT TO GET IN ON IT.

    Seriously, do you even listen to anyone here? Do you even listen to yourself?
    THERE’S NO POINT IN LISTENING WHEN WE ARE WRITING.
    When’s the last time you cleaned out your ears?
    I’LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU TELL US WHAT IS YOUR GENDER.

  5. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 4 days ago

    “Trying to transpose current situations into ancient history may be cute and satirical, but it is still an attempt to legitimize lawbreaking.”

    It’s interesting (well, maybe not so much interesting as completely unsurprising) that the ones who most often advocate for setting aside the past are those who stand to gain the most from that forgetting.

    AND YOU BASE THIS STATEMENT ON WHAT?

  6. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 4 days ago

    Yes, I am a native American. I was born here, so I am not an immigrant.
    Or are you immersed in PC semantics?

    Right now, in this time, there are people who were born in America (making them native to this country), people who immigrated here legally, and immigrants who aren’t legally documented.
    There are also refugees but they are here under a different set of laws that is not pertinent to this comment.

  7. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 4 days ago

    You missed my original point, which is that a point of this strip is that those laws are in some way immoral.

    I IMAGINE ALL LAWS CAN SEEM IMMORAL, UNFAIR, OR OPPRESIVE TO THOSE CRIMINALS WHO HAVE AN INTEREST AGAINST THEM.

    And hey, by drawing strips about such a thing, and bringing the subject to a larger audience, Alcaraz is doing something about it.

    THE ONLY THING THE AUDIENCE HERE IS DOING IS A TRIAL OF IMMIGRATION AND COLUMBUS THROUGH THE FAR LENS OF HISTORY.

    There ain’t no organization without information. Just because you don’t like that information doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be put out there.

    THAT’S NOT HOW LIBERALS FEEL ABOUT CONSERVATIVE INFORMATION.

    And all of them were seen at the time as troublemakers, rabble-rousers, enemies of the state.

    IS THAT HOW YOU SEE LALO AS BEING CHARACTERIZED?

    They all knew that the law would not be changed simply by going through the “correct” legal channels. Rather than leave (really, what is it with folks who are so happy to tell people they disagree with to go away?), they worked hard through other means to get those laws changed.

    TRUE, THEY ULTIMATELY GOT THE LAWS CHANGED. BUT THEY DIDN’T ADVOCATE THAT 12 MILLION PEOPLE BLATANTLY BREAK THE EXISTING LAWS BEFORE THAT CHANGE.

  8. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 4 days ago

    The U.S. has laws allowing refugees fleeing from danger in their country.
    The U.S. also has laws about those who are just trying to come in without going through channels.
    Just wanting to have a “better life” doesn’t qualify – it’s still against the law.
    Lalo has advocated for illegal immigration in the past (he only has a few subjects, apparently).
    Trying to transpose current situations into ancient history may be cute and satirical, but it is still an attempt to legitimize lawbreaking.
    What is needed is a respect for the laws currently in place.
    If enough people feel those laws need changing, then the mechanism is in place to do so.
    (and for those who feel the government is so corrupt that isn’t possible, why are you still in the U.S.?)

  9. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 5 days ago

    Lalo is finally using the term “illegal immigration.”
    Now if he will only apply it to the current situation of people coming into the U.S. without going through lawful procedure.

  10. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 5 days ago

    Night-Gaunt -

    I direct your attention to the title of this forum – it’s called “COMMENTS” and it’s in all caps.