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  1. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 29 minutes ago

    Some of the value that Lalo brings, according to posters here, is that he makes readers aware of issues.
    Well, La Cucaracha has been published since 2002.
    In over 12 years there should have been a massive drop in racist activities if Lalo was effective.
    Yet, recently, there seems to be more race-based divisiveness than ever in the U.S.
    You may draw your own conclusions.
    Personally, I think Lalo benefits from keeping race stirred up.
    And for those who don’t think his strip does that, let me present Exhibit A from long ago:
    From Wikipedia -
    “Alcaraz satirized his hate-mailers by drawing a letter-writer pleading, “Please drop ‘La Cucaracha’ and bring back my favorite comic strip, ‘Whitesville USA’ by Aryan McCracker.” In regards to this response, Alcaraz said, “I’m sorry, but I’m just not polite about this stuff.”"
    So he knows darn well what he is doing.
    And his supporters go right along simply because they think he is speaking for them and their group.
    Well, your representative is responsible for much of the very things you are unhappy about.

  2. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    “It seems that, according to some people here, white folks are the Most Oppressed People in the USA.”
    Hmm, I don’t see those words posted anywhere here today.
    Perhaps Agrestic is resorting to hyperbole.
    And if she exaggerates once, she can do it often.
    “Also, where’s the “racist bias towards white republicans”?”
    Hasn’t Lalo personally attacked Rush Limbaugh, calling or implying that he’s a racist? And Republican? And white? And a pig?
    “But your accusation of racist bias holds about as much water as a rusted-out sieve.”
    I have in my possession, a rusted out sieve.
    The rust has “grown” over the holes and it easily fills to the top with water.
    Metaphors and similes shouldn’t be attempted by amateurs.

  3. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    “Of course people from any race, ethnicity, nationality, creed, etc. can be bigoted toward anyone else.”
    That’s another way of saying – when others do it, it’s bigotry; when white folks do it, it’s racism.

    “Whites wield the power in this country.”
    Does that mean that Obama is powerless?
    “And when white folks who are either in power or heading for power (which is what plenty of frats are about in the first place), well then, you’ve got yourself a big ol’ problem with racism that will continue to affect brown folks in real-life ways.”
    That’s another way of saying that all powerful white people are racists.
    “… racism that will continue to affect brown folks…”
    George Hamilton will be unhappy to hear that.

  4. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    “You may not have found it funny, but I laughed out loud.”
    So do black audiences when the comic uses the N-word.

  5. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    “Racism is a learned behavior and as long as racists teach their hateful creed, it will still exist.”
    But as long as blacks use a racist term (thus teaching it) and indicating it is all right to use it, how is anyone supposed to figure out exactly what is racist?

  6. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    “Agrestic is saying that SAE (and I know a few) is systemically racist…”
    Is it the frat that is “systematically” racist, or is the college, or the kids, or the administrators, or the teachers?
    If the “system” is racist, where did they get it from? – perhaps by hearing blacks USE the term for themselves?…
    " Why you think agrestic’s avatar is “a rather offensive stereotype” is curious. Is that because the person is black?"
    I find the cartoon offensive because it looks like a big-eyed, ready-to-please caricature who’s ready to tap dance for our pleasure.
    There is the pandering use of a black cartoon by someone (Agrestic) who has used white people, and men and women, to represent her murky identification on this forum.
    It’s like black is her current flavor-of-the-day, virtually screaming, “Hey, look at me – I’m too hip for the room!”
    I have expressed the same objection to Lalo using his rip-off of The Boondocks.
    This is all in conjunction with today’s subject – groups can make fun of themselves but others can’t, UNLESS the others consider that they are speaking for that group, like Agrestic and Lalo.
    “…Lalo is saying that GOP congressmen act in a similar manner, pushing and passing legislation that is particularly harmful to minorities. "
    Well, I’m white and I’m now a minority in the area in which I live.
    I think ALL of Congress (Left and Right) passes harmful legislation to us minorities.

  7. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    I have decried the use of derogatory labels by members of the same group who would be offended by others saying them.
    On this forum, a hearty chorus sprang up and let me know, in no uncertain terms, that that is absolutely permissible.
    “it’s just used for comedy, and used to bring those groups together and turn their hurt into pride,” is their justification.
    So, even though their are a few voices of reason to applaud your post (including me), I fear it also will fall on very deaf ears.

  8. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    “What he’s saying is that there are a lot of legislators that are SAE alum.”
    Hmm, he seemed to leave out that some Democrat legislators might be alums too.
    Or don’t Democrat congressmen go to college?

  9. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    Regarding lalo’s strip -
    He is saying, in essence, that GOP congressmen learn their racism from the University of Oklahoma.
    Where did Lalo Alcaraz learn his racism?
    Or is he just a natural?

  10. indiethink commented on La Cucaracha 1 day ago

    Uh, oh – we’ve got Agrestic riled now.
    All of us had better not be racist or she’ll whack the bejeezus on the side of our haids.
    Hmm, about racism – maybe she could start with a rather offensive stereotype avatar (which is not doubt purloined from some cartoonist who isn’t getting money or credit).