Pibgorn by Brooke McEldowney

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Margueritem said, 9 months ago

Ah, kindred spirits communing. Charlies does have a certain Je ne sais quois about it.
Joseph H said, 9 months ago

Charlies?

Ah, Dru’s new adopted niece. :)

FPF, time to post the boilerplate.
Joe Minotaur said, 9 months ago

Let’s take a walk down the road not less traveled.
Joe Minotaur said, 9 months ago

“…a lovely new set of Demon Chops.”?
Sisyphos said, 9 months ago

Do you think maybe Master has been just a tiny bit influenced by comments he’s read here in writing today’s script? It’s definitely a hoot, but a bit unexpected!
Joe Minotaur said, 9 months ago

If you would like to

‘favorite’ the strip,

(and maybe the sketch, too), simply log in and click on the ‘Favorite’ star directly above the strip. Mr. McEldowney very kindly asked for us what purpose is served by favoriting, and this was the answer:
I asked my editor at Gocomics about the purpose of “favoriting” a strip. Her answer was this: “‘Favoriting’ allows people following you to see what comics you like. ‘Favorited’ comics also show up under your profile, and allow us to see what comics people are enjoying.”
Basically, I think it provides a method for spreading the word.
Brooke

ccdesan has been kind enough to provide several resources:
Pibgorn in-depth background info, strip history, synopsis of story arcs, etc.
• http://home.comcast.net/~ccdesan/Pibgorn/Pibgorn.html

9 Chickweed Lane in-depth background info, strip history, synopsis of story arcs, etc.
• http://home.comcast.net/~ccdesan/Chickweed/Chickweed.html

GoComics comments posting guide to special formatting: italic, bold, indents, large fonts, etc.
• http://home.comcast.net/~ccdesan/Pibgorn/StyleGuide.html

fairportfan has samples and a guide for converting 2D comics to 3D and for “flicker” comparisons:
3D conversions of a couple of Pibgorn panels, go to:
• http://electronictiger.net/stereo/dru.htm
How to Commit 3D - quick-and-dirty guide for stereo images:
• http://electronictiger.net/stereo/demo.htm
Index of “flicker” images:
• http://electronictiger.net/avail/flick/
Flicker Picture Tutorial:
• http://electronictiger.net/avail/how2

Joe_Minotaur has a number of fan fictions based upon Pibgorn and TV police dramas:
• http://home.earthlink.net/~joeminotaur (start reading at the bottom of the page!)

Free registration to participate in a forum dedicated to Brooke McEldowny’s work:
• http://www.talkaboutcomics.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=568 [link to forum]
• http://marmoe.livejournal.com/34590.html [for registration assistance]

Brooke McEldowney info at:
• http://officialpibgorn.livejournal.com/ [Brooke’s Pibgorn blog]
• http://chickweedcafe.blogspot.com/ [Brooke’s Chickweed blog]
• http://www.wuky.org/tonicarchivesvisual [WUKY NPR interview (audio)]
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_McEldowney

Come one and come all, de-lurk and join in!
Add your own voice to our great, joyous din!
Just one bit of wisdom ere joining our game:
Read the comments! All of them! Or you’ll miss something! (Shame!)
(No trolls need apply.)
And please do not feed the cuisine-challenged bridge substructure symbionts.
http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/pib/2002/pib021218.gif
http://chickweedcafe.blogspot.com/2009/02/on-return-of-loons.html

Today’s 9 Chickweed Lane can be found at:
http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComic.mpl?date=2009%2F2%2F20&name=9ChickweedLane
An index of old 9 Chickweed Lane strips, 2001-present, can be found at:
http://www.comicstriparchive.com/9ChickweedLane/
Sisyphos said, 9 months ago

The rainbow hues of the changing background help set the artful mood of today’s adventure in childish literature. (tongue firmly planted in cheek)
Joe Minotaur said, 9 months ago

For today’s 9 Chickweed Lane, follow the link then advance to the current date(2009/02/24).
Fairportfan said, 9 months ago

Once i get done installing Linux and switch back to Windows (and re-install a few things there … don’t ask … “Whatta we doin’ tonight, Brain?” “The same thing we do every night, Pinky - re-installing Windows 7…”), i shall generate a flicker pic for this strip.
Sisyphos said, 9 months ago

(note to jwhouk67 and anyone else wondering: fearciuil retired early tonight because she was not feeling well but has work to do tomorrow, so she’ll not be posting the boilerplate. Stand-in?)
Sisyphos said, 9 months ago

Thanks for filling in, Joe!
txmystic said, 9 months ago

Dru’s Charlies are the stuff of legend…
wndrwrthg said, 9 months ago

So, Dru is saying the kid is a little…?
oCinneide said, 9 months ago

Could Lena be a trainee or heiress for Dru? I am certain that Lena would not argue the idea. Possible other thought could be that after this exchange, it will not be the last time that Dru and Lena will have some interaction/communications. Time (and the Master) will tell.

Cheers!
Sisyphos said, 9 months ago

Probably expending all that mojo in the Mid-Atlantic Druish Event was enough to cause some rapid weight loss, fairportfan!
Fairportfan said, 9 months ago

I swear - i think Dru has gotten slenderer…

Incidentally - the current Wapsi Square strip has a wonderful punchline. If you’re not a Wapsi reader, i’d say start a couple strips back - at http://wapsisquare.com/d/20090220.html

For those who do so - Monica, the shorter young woman (the one with the charlies) is involved in all sorts of strange mystical stuff only of concern if you’re reading the strip. She works as an expert in pre-Columbian antiquities at a museum. Katharine, the taller girl with the spooky dark eyes, is a fabrics expert at the same museum. She knows a little about Monica’s situation, but not all. She wants to help.

In the strip linked above, Monica has told her that something she found online is a conspiracy-nut website, and has decided to take her to The Library - which is the repository of all knowledge, and is (normally) off-limits to humans (and can only be reached by “POIT!”ing - teleporting).

Phix, the Librarian/Guardian of The Library, is a sphinx.

NOW READ ON.
Rachel Martin said, 9 months ago

Dru has found a kindred spirit.

9CWL: Edda broke my heart alittle, after making me chuckle at the howdy doody line.
LLeRay said, 9 months ago

ROFLMAO!

I can’t stop laughing long enough to type anymore…
Sisyphos said, 9 months ago

What a rush for Lena Egg, enjoying an extended private conversation with her heroine! I wonder how much this might in a convoluted, time-warped way have contributed to her “Queen” persona in Suzerain?
Joe Minotaur said, 9 months ago

Just doing my duty, Sisyphos. Now, it’s off to bed.
ejcapulet said, 9 months ago

I think that “hoe” and “suck” fit those two pretty well.
SirMirom said, 9 months ago

Is it me, or is there a certain “Now what have we learned, Timmy?” recap feel about all this?
wildflowerose said, 9 months ago

Hello All,

Contrary to popular belief (except for Poms, who is paying way to close of attention and must not have a RL), reports of wildflowerose’s being attacked by herbicide are totally false. I am fine, have been reading the strips, and just have a whole lotta stuff going on in my RL, so don’t post very often.

One really great RL thing happened tonight, though- I had a very nice dinner with ccdesan, who detoured from his travels in California long enough to meet me for a great meal and better conversation. I know he also visited with another couch denizen prior to visiting me, and is also planning to visit someone else in CA later on, so adding those of us he has already encountered, ccdesan probably earns first prize for “couch denizens who have met other couch denizens”.

Take care everyone, and thanks Frida for: 1. thinking of me and 2. for the great birria!
Adrienne Gormley said, 9 months ago

oCinneide says:

“Could Lena be a trainee or heiress for Dru? I am certain that Lena would not argue the idea.”

Check out early in this story arc here:

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http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/pib/2007/pib070831.gif
http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/pib/2007/pib070903.gif
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John Pelt said, 9 months ago

Joe_Minotaur says: “…a lovely new set of Demon Chops.”?

I think that “chops” is another way of saying “togs”… that a different set of… not-quite nudity she’s wearing.
The Old Wolf said, 9 months ago

9CWL: No, Edda, you haven’t ruined everything because Amos, who loves you more than you deserve, is quite used to your histrionics, and is not prepared to lose you over one minor meltdown.

Pib: Dru does look rather svelte in this strip. Wonder if it had to do with that massive discharge of Mojo…

Lena is far too precocious for her own good. Pity the poor hormonally-charged wain who gets her in his crosshairs when she’s 16…

A wonderful dinner was had with Wildflowerrose at a Southeast Asian grill this night groan BELCH groan

The food was almost as good as the company…
Nabuquduriuzhur said, 9 months ago

Never heard the term “charlies” before this, except as a possessive form of Charley (Charley’s)

Interesting that Dru’s charlies continually go from A to B to occasionally even C, depending upon the situation.

0:38 PST
8:38 UTC
Nabuquduriuzhur said, 9 months ago

Wonder when Lena will get her Demonic training…

Perhaps she can have some of Spitcock’s leftover mojo, too.

Look! in the sky! it’s “Ho with a Hoe”!

0:42 PST
8:42 UTC
Story Teller said, 9 months ago

fairportfanPro says: “Story Teller says: “Even Hank Jr. took an occassional stab at less-than-serious country music…give a listen to ‘The Coalition Against Coalitions’ or ‘If You Don’t Like Hank Williams You Can Just Kiss My @$$!’ sometime.”

Setting aside whether any of Hank the Lesser’s music can be considered “serious country music” (in my opinion the best he ever did was when he recorded the songs for that movie about his daddy), “If you don’t like Hank Williams…” is originally by Kris Kristofferson; did Junior actually record it?”

If memory serves, indeed he did, though I believe it was David Allen Coe who had the most familiar recording of that tune. I still cannot find my books after my last move so I am operating from a failing memory. Those synaptic core breaches hurt more than they used to.

“The best song along those lines i’ve ever heard is from Webb Wilder’s film, Horror Hayride (not, unfortunately, on any of his albums) - “If You Don’t Think Hank was Number One, You’re Full of Number Two”.

Best recent interpretations of any of Hank’s songs i’ve heard in a long time are Jason & the Scorchers’ cowpunk ones. (And just to prove they’re not prejudiced, they also did the best versons of 19th Nervous Breakdown and Take Me Home, Country Roads i ever heard…)”

These are titles that I am unfamiliar with. Now I must have them =)
baslim_the_begger said, 9 months ago

Perhaps it was supposed to Charlizes?

Lena, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

9CWL:
For all you Howdy Doody fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-IPXpvRaU
Fairportfan said, 9 months ago

Flicker Pic!

http://electronictiger.net/avail/flick
Fairportfan said, 9 months ago

Nabuquduriuzhur says:

“Never heard the term ‘charlies’ before this…”

I suspect that that’s because Brooke made it up, as a term that nobody would automatically object to, but whose meaning would be clear in context.

This is the second time it’s appeared in this arc, BTW:
http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/pib/2008/pib080109.gif
http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/pib/2008/pib080111.gif
Story Teller said, 9 months ago

fairportfanPro says: “Nabuquduriuzhur says:

“Never heard the term ‘charlies’ before this…”

I suspect that that’s because Brooke made it up, as a term that nobody would automatically object to, but whose meaning would be clear in context.”

I’ve heard it used before, always in relation to ta-tas. Do not know the origin.

Well, and then there was the Army where everybody hated Charlie Company - don’t know why - and the general explanation was that Charlies were boobs…as in idiots. A connection, maybe…?

0111 and I’m hittin’ the hay.
Fairportfan said, 9 months ago

Story Teller says:

“fairportfanPro says: ‘Best recent interpretations of any of Hank’s songs i’ve heard in a long time are Jason & the Scorchers’ cowpunk ones. (And just to prove they’re not prejudiced, they also did the best versons of 19th Nervous Breakdown and Take Me Home, Country Roads i ever heard…)’

“These are titles that I am unfamiliar with. Now I must have them =)”

Jason & the Scorchers were/are pretty much the definitive cowpunk band. Here’s the CD with the Hank covers: http://tinyurl.com/dlwro7 (and a studio and live version of Absolutely Sweet Marie that’re so good ive had people in the music industry tell me that they wrote it and Dylan covered it…)

And here’s the one with 19th Nervous Breakdown: http://tinyurl.com/cuwfhz

And here’s a sample: http://tinyurl.com/dxuj3r
Squire_of_the_shire said, 9 months ago

I’ve heard of both terms ‘charlies’ and ‘chops’ The term charlies were indicative of the ‘C’ cup hence a pair of 38C’s were referred to as a pair of 38 charlies. Charlie was selected as the phonetic alphabet word for the letter ‘C’

The term chops originated from the musical world. It was an appreciation for a guitarist performance the chops referring to the ‘chopping’ action of the hand actually playing the chords/notes. It was later expanded to basically complement someone who executed a particular task well, whether it be art, sports or whatever.
Squire_of_the_shire said, 9 months ago

BTW it’s 1820 local
0920Z (GMT)
ThatCat said, 9 months ago

Lena has a nice role model for Charlie’s style - I hope she doesn’t feel too much envy in later years.

Wait, we all feel envy - she can join the crowd!

Cat
04:53 EST
Gunnr said, 9 months ago

To Charlie37133 – You are a one of a kind. The charlies referred to here come in pairs.

Let’s not forget the other pair of “C’s” Dru has – chutzpah and charisma — both of which she has in spades …

3:57 CST
Fairportfan said, 9 months ago

Snazzit!

The HouChron is doing its “You can’t read me with any browser” trick again - and i’m getting different results from each of the three. Opera gives me a screen of gibberish. Firefox says “Unsupported encryption” and IE just refuses to say anything.

(I collect Luann from the HouChron because it’s the only place i’ve found that puts the un-colourised strips online.)
barbhinkins said, 9 months ago

For fatuncle:
10.16 pm Tuesday evening - Australian Eastern Daylight Savings :)
farren said, 9 months ago

I’ve heard “chops” used several different ways in the musical world, mostly as a close relative of “experience”, as in “Will this guy be able to replace Jerry? Does he have enough chops?”, and also (which is, I suppose, what Brooke was on about) as a combination of experience, skills,
and abilities, as in “Wynton Marsalis has a great set of chops, doesn’t he?”.

In that regard, the new set of demon chops is undoubtedly the ones she picked up from Spitty, which certainly have left her a lot sleeker (and meaner).

Sure wish she didn’t look quite so much like a praying mantis in that first panel, though.
fatuncle said, 9 months ago

barbhinkins

Australia? Good God. It’s a small world, to coin a phrase …
fatuncle said, 9 months ago

Chops … the fourth definition, I would say …

http://tinyurl.com/ahjdbm
fatuncle said, 9 months ago

And while we are on the subject of less-than-serious treatment of someone else’s work – let us bend an ear to Anna Russell vs. Wagner, with The Ring Of The Nibelungs going down for the long count.
llorraine23 said, 9 months ago

I’m trying so hard to ‘get’ this comic. What is the appeal? I’ve read several weeks worth and other than some pretty artwork I just don’t get it. What am I missing? Is there another webpage that explains what is going on or something?
Dry said, 9 months ago

Where’s Igor?
Dry said, 9 months ago

lloraine23, that’s what the boilerplate debate has been about! Some feel it’s not needed (like myself), others feel it is needed. I guess you may need to use it to help you with the storyline. Scroll up this page and you’ll find it. I still don’t understand some of the stuff, so don’t feel bad! OF course, I haven’t been on the couch as long as some others, either!
fatuncle said, 9 months ago

llorraine23

I honor your effort, but several weeks just won’t do it. This story arc - this “chapter” - started nearly two years ago!

To really get into this strip, you need to go all the way back to the beginning.
TheDoctortheoneonlya... said, 9 months ago

Hi-HOE Kids: First off Horrainne 23, If this confuses you, try some Older Pib and work-up as I did. #2:(Get the Nets ready) I find strips are more enjoyable when the”Minds Ear” adds voice to the character For example, Is Drucilla a “BRIT”? She has a Joan Collins thing workin’ for her.
gg015879 said, 9 months ago

Nabuquduriuzhur says: … Never heard the term “charlies” before this, except as a possessive form of Charley (Charley’s)
Interesting that Dru’s charlies continually go from A to B to occasionally even C, depending upon the situation.*

Others may have already responded; BUT - - When Dru first entered Suzerain & was merged with Pib; Pibby was amazed with the reflection of ‘their’ Charlies.
… AND - I believe Dru’s Charlies range from DD down to the very rare occasional B.
thats my story and Im stickin to it!*

gg