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   GNWachs said, 3 months ago

   The plan is being changed almost daily depending on what he hears from the country. I read where they have dropped the end of life counseling. That is actually too bad, it is needed.

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   fennec said, 3 months ago

   You are very right there, GNW, about the end of life counseling. I fear that the lack of a definitive plan at this point is because the Obama admin did not wish to repeat the errors of the Clinton admin in their attempt to reform health care, but perhaps they have gone too far in the other direction.

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   meowdam said, 3 months ago

   it is simple Single payer , single payer , single payer

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   nomad2112 said, 3 months ago

   Invisible ink? It should be written in erasable ink.

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   harleyquinn said, 3 months ago

   Ok, Ok, now that they can not just push it through for our own good and someone read the thing. Well here is the plan and like all good plans we are willing to buy off anyone we can. those who we can not we can accuse of being Nazi’s. And if you don’t like it we can always fall back to he is black.
   Ok now go out there and hide from town halls. hands in 1,2,3,4 break

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   Machado said, 3 months ago

   wow, Even left of center cartoonist are mocking the messiah….

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   HUMPHRIES said, 3 months ago

   Maco, brillant observation.

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   ynnek58 said, 3 months ago

   Nice, but spot on. I’m a fiscal conservative (non-Republican, so don’t get your panties in a wad), but even I think a single payer system would be less costly than the horse bleeep they are talking about now.

   With the present gig, if I want good coverage I’ll have to continue to pay for it, but I’ll also have to pay for the expanded coverage for those who aren’t paying for it… nice.

   With a one-pay system, at least I wouldn’t be getting whacked twice for the same thing. The new system could be called Mediocre-care, because that’s what we’ll get. And we could change the national anthem to ‘Oh Canada’.

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   4uk4ata said, 3 months ago

   Ynnek, you do know what Canadians pay for their system, right? ;)

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    HUMPHRIES said, 3 months ago

    Yanney , you’re an inspiration to us all.

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    Nobody said, 3 months ago

    Follow the Yellow Brick Road!

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    oldlegodad said, 3 months ago

    yennek58 the proper expression is “knickers in a knot” . Am I correct big ear?

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    lindz.coop said, 3 months ago

    Yeah, Here kitty, kitty, write out your plan like the Clintons did – so you can take all the blame for not getting health reform through – instead of folks having to look at themselves – if we want change we have to allow it. Americans will not want health care changed until they are absolutely forced ($$$$$) to do it (i.e., when employers stop providing it – and it won’t be too much longer). The answer is not that tough folks – Medicare for all – done. Luckily I will be eligible for it long before this mess is ever settled – and I don’t know anyone on Medicare who has been euthanized.

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    old1953 said, 3 months ago

    Oh, I’m sure Republicans will start demanding euthanisia for anyone on Medicare any day now, and tell us that it’s all the evil Democrats fault for making them do it.

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    Jase99 said, 3 months ago

    More like the borrow and spend Republicans will try to kill off Medicare (again) under the guise helping cut the deficit.

    Now that the Republicans are no longer in power they want to resume pretending to be the party of fiscal responsibility. Never mind that they borrowed and spent so much money over eight years, they had to change the law they originally passed so they could raise the national debt limit that they originally sought to cap. But then it’s only OK for /them/ to spend money and only on /their/ pet projects.

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    Michigander said, 3 months ago

    The little characters on the bottom say “See?!” “Invisible Ink”. That’s cute. I think some people exaggerate some aspects of the bill. Euthenasia won’t happen until we become a communist country. How many are counting the days until that happens?

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    Jase99 said, 3 months ago

    Modern Communism: A system of government where one party controls all aspects of politics while still allowing free trade and enterprise.

    Kind of sounds like the government under Republican rule during the Bush Administration, doesn’t it?

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    mikeut66 said, 3 months ago

    Democracy is messy, messy, messy. It would seem that “everyone” wants health care reform but “no one” can agree on what changes to make.

    I just sit in my tent and decide what is right for everyone. A much easier system don’t you think?

    (Before you sent hate mail please note that my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek).

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    ynnek58 said, 3 months ago

    The problem is we collectively don’t have the balls to let the weak of the herd die. Stupidity used to get you killed. Now there is no behavior that you can engage in that the rest of society isn’t expected to swoop in and save your arse. If you’re 15 and knocked up – no problem – got you covered, drugged out – not your fault – devil made you do it. Borrowed too much on your house or speculated on some bubble real estate – NO Problem, we got you covered. It’s utter nonsense.

    I only suggested a single payer because practically we won’t let people die (though really it would probably be better for mankind in the long run if we did); therefore, we’re going to do something for the deadbeats, we might as well do the cheapest thing since quality really isn’t a consideration (let’s call it Cana-care, or maybe Mediocre-care) – hey it’s ‘free’, so we won’t expect much. In fact I expect everything out of government run health care that I expect out of the social security system [if you know what I mean].

    Funny how the Brits who love trashing their own system, only get riled up when someone ELSE starts poking fun of it. Socialized medicine ain’t that good, but if it gets the costs down then OK (let’s see if the commies running things can do it – it worked so well for Medicare and Medicaid – They didn’t cost more than projected!). Just realize that when you take the money out of it you also take the incentive out as well. Innovation will certainly slow down.

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    Jase99 said, 3 months ago

    Yeah, that’s one of the lines they use to scare us. I for one think it’s total BS. We are the only 1st world nation that doesn’t have some kind government offered health care system and ours is probably the most expensive system in the world. Drug companies are amongst the most profitable businesses in the world. All those massive profits happen /after/ they pay for research costs. And how much of that research is done by government institutions (CDC, state university research centers, et cetera) that then /partner/ with a price gauging drug company?

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    4uk4ata said, 3 months ago

    “Funny how the Brits who love trashing their own system, only get riled up when someone ELSE starts poking fun of it.”

    Basic human reaction. Insiders are allowed to bleeep about something, outsiders aren’t. Happens all over the world. Plus, it might be the Brits aren’t exactly looking at the US for directions on how to make their healthcare work ;)

    Personally, I am more or less ok with what I think you offer here. A universal model can cover the basics. Those who want more and can afford it can pay more for a private insurer.

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    DrCanuck said, 3 months ago

    Same thing in Canada. Canadians constantly complain about their health care, but a recent poll shows 86.2% of Canadians prefer theirs to anyone else’s in the world.

    Human nature.

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    MurphyHerself said, 3 months ago

    Oldie, it’s “Knickers in a twist”.

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    motivemagus said, 3 months ago

    ynnek58 - Sure, let’s let everyone die, that’ll improve the species. Wait, what about curable diseases? And those who are the victims of a drunk driver? Should we let someone die because they were unlucky?
    And I suppose you’d let Stephen Hawking, one of the most brilliant mathematical physicists of the century, just die from lack of care?
    
    Oh, and forget glasses! Let the nearsighted get hit by cars.
    Your pseudo-Darwinian assertion is way, way, way too simple.

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    ynnek58 said, 3 months ago

    It depends on if the dude with the curable disease can afford it, or can get someone else (charity) to pay for it – heck, I might even chip in – I just don’t want to be forced to do it. Truth is a lot of fiscal conservatives, myself included, are quite philanthropic. I could be more so if the thieves in Washington weren’t so aggressive in taking my money. The government is a TERRIBLE charity – the overhead is offensive. You never give to a charity that siphoned off that much, why should you feel good about giving it to the government that does?

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    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 3 months ago

    Payninnanek58,

    You are starting off with some very outdated concepts and recycling them by adding your own brand of bull manure!

    First of all, the government health care system is vastly more efficient than private health care. 97 cents of each dollar goes into providing health care. With private insurers it’s closer to 50 cents, and 40 cents of each dollar goes into NOT providing healthcare.

    Why do you feel comfortable giving a corporation that siphons off that much, your money?

    Truth is, that people (“dudes” if you must) with REAL money skew the philanthrophy numbers but donating to family foundations, charitable remainderment income trusts and other “philanthrophic vehicles” to maintain control of money that their estate is no longer taxed on and indeed , they collect a tax subsidy for their “largess.”

    All that is fine and fair, but, know that the numbers are not what they seem when you are looking up at them.

    It is the tax law and it is more than fair to the wealthy. Two things are certain, “Death and Taxes” and with just a little bit of planning, the wealthy avoid an awful lot of taxes. But that money goes into “Philanthropic” mode.

    Take away the Inheritance Tax and watch how “Philanthropic” those “dudes” really are!