After Witgenstein, there is Danae.
“People who think they are always right infuriate those of us who are.”
Richard Dawkins: The Early Years.
You got that right, Rayannina.
Religion in a nutshell.
@rayannina & wndrwrthg : Which just goes to show there are irrational extremists on both sides of the argument.
Hey, who’s Dawkins?
I was thinkin’ this was about the Intelligent Design religion.
But, yes Mr. wndrwrthg, religions in general do the same thing.
Hey, madKanga, is that quote Mark Twain, Will Rogers, or George Carlin?
My mind is already made up.
Don´t confuse me with facts.
im right and theres nothing you cand to prove me wrong
Spoken like a true Uber-lib.
Well, Dawkins’ great “sin” is being outspoken against religion. That’s considered taboo in our culture where we’re supposed to show “respect” for people’s beliefs, no matter how outlandish they are, or how much extremists are trying to control others using them. If you criticize religion, then you must be close-minded. Dawkins’ is the ultimate in open-minded… he will consider any belief, provided there is evidence for it. Which pretty much rules out all the god(s).
I know some politicians that must be Pre-Conceptual
@revtry – Assuming you’re not trolling or just demonstrating the point of the today’s comic, it takes a lot of work to ignore that mountain of evidence, doesn’t it? Especially considering you can actually observe it happening. Evolution is absolutely as true as the world is round. Denying evolution is intellectually the same as believing the Earth is flat.
old quote from someone wise: Because you have silenced a man does not mean you have converted him.
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I’m with you Danae!
Nairebis - I’ll bet you don’t even know what people believe who don’t accept evolutionism. You accuse them of ignorance because you think they think things they don’t really think.
Very basically, “evolution” would not be just any change, like fish losing eyes (a loss), and it’s not just adaptation or selection, as with antibiotic resistance. It would have to be the addition of a new feature, or something becoming something it truly wasn’t before. That’s what there is no observation or evidence of.
In real life, “pre-conceptual” scientists like evolutionists do not ignore evidence like Danae does. Instead, they find a way to steer it in the direction they want it to go, even though it would never go there on its own.
If you think evolution is proven or observed, or that “all scientists” agree on it, you (like most people) have a LOT to learn. I hope you make the effort.
preconceptual science = global warming
Regarding Dawkins: It’s very clear that he has a lot of anger against religion, and from what I understand he has experienced I don’t blame him. The problem his, he has rejected “God” because of what an obviously false representative of “God” did – thus ironically joining the very team he should be opposing.
There is a lot of anger in Dawkins arguments, and many easily recognizable logical fallacies. But there is not sound logic or proof. He outrageously overrates his words if he thinks they are compelling enough to give pause to those who don’t already agree with him.
Man created god in his own image.
Hey, Wiley. Looks like you’re going to have to draw this storyline to a conclusion lest some of your clientele give themselves an aneurysm explaining how their point of view is right-right-right and if you a) dare to question what they believe or b) take umbrage at their questioning what you believe, you are an extremist nut-job. With the economy I’m sure you’d like to keep as much of your audience alive as possible…extremist nut-jobs or not.
C’mon everyone - lighten up on the religion / politics / science blather. Let’s just enjoy the comic as a comic and nothing more.
I don’t expect people to suddenly accept reality based on postings on a comic strip. But I take heart at the fact that the Internet has allowed atheists to “come out of the closet” without the fear of social ostracization that we’ve had in the past. It’s not about waking up old people, who are probably too far gone, but it’s about making it acceptable for young people to think independently and know that they aren’t alone when they see that religion and all the different gods really seem absurd.
I predict it’ll probably take another 50 years for atheism to exceed the magic 50% level in the population. Mark my words, that will be the biggest thing that the Internet helps bring about. It’s much more difficult to remain in ignorance when communicating with so many different people, rather than the insulated communities of the past.
So while the ignorance such as what I see here is often disheartening, I know that there is a better day coming. Someday we’ll finally shake off the yoke of myths and legends.
“There is a lot of anger in Dawkins arguments, and many easily recognizable logical fallacies”
Care to give an example of these logical fallacies rather than simply alluding to them?
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La La La La La
There are no ridiculous evolution/creationsim/science/religion debates on these boards
La La La La La
Adaptation is not Evolution and Science DOES support the bibles references to science.
Evolution is a reality and religious belief is not denied by it.
I will bet Al Gore is la la la laing too.
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “La-La-La-La” and there was light.
I haven’t found any other comic on this site that attracts the consistent number of comments that Wiley does - agreed not all comments are sensible, but many do show some significant thought about the ideas behind the strip.
Well done Wiley!
madKanga, have you been over to “Pibgorn” any time recent? Lots of comments, many on topic, many entertaining ones off. Come on over and enjoy!
EMET of the Bee Beard, you have taught us – almost taught– a new word, or a word new to me: chiastic. It’s not in my dictionary, but I assume it’s related to the Greek khiazein, “to mark with a Khi (letter X),” i.e., “to cross,” and especially to the past participle of khiazein, khiastos, “crossed. ” How this relates in the context of the conversation, though, in the sentence “Chiastic structure wins again!” is puzzling. Could you please finish the process of enlightening us? I’m new at this site, and this is the first commentary I have followed; but the cartoon itself certainly invited all kinds of spin-off – and got it!
@oCinneide - Yes, I have seen Pibgorn, but usually I see it rather early in the day, so the only comment is fear-ciuil’s standard intro.
Whereas I tend to come back to non sequitur to read the comments before looking at the new day’s offering.
Pibgorn is really aimed at a different audience, I think - I suspect I must be a troll.
All seems perfectly reasonable to me.
This is the best description of Obama’s economic policy yet!!