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NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

I’ll let Pres. Obama speak his peace: I’m not going along with the hyper-fear from the right. But, it might be more within his grasp to read the Goat story. After all, this is America - it’s not government’s place to “build character”(Hello, ever heard of Family, Church?). And If Obama pushes Marxism, He’s going to fail; That’s just reality, folks. We know better in America (although some are blinded by their hatred and envy right now; so they don’t know it yet). Thank you, God, for America!
cdward said, 2 months ago

But remember that we the people are the government. And get off the Marxism thing. There’s nothing Marxist about him. To paraphrase a politician, “I’ve read Marx, and he, sir, is no Marx.”
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

oh stop with the Marxism, puppy. There’s not an ounce of truth in that false charge.

One of the great opportunities for a President is the “bully pulpit.” That fact that Obama wants to use it to inspire children to value education is great … by his own example he is a demonstration of what one person of modest background can achieve with education and hard work.

I still see this hubbub as some people fighting the results of the Nov. election. It’s nauseating.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Google “van jones” He’s one example of the many czars Obama has surrounded himself with who have bought into marxist ideas. Just because you bury your head in the sand and choose not to inform yourself about the radical ties of our current POTUS; doesn’t mean I have to. Holdgren, Lloyd, Sunstein, and about 28 others are indistinguishable in their lack of experience with real world policy and in their radical agendas. And there’s ACORN, CapAndTrade, the Eco-Frenzy with “Global Warming”, deference to outside governmental influence from overseas and such, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, missing college papers for Barak and Michelle, on and on and on. What you got yourself there, cdward is a bargain-basement, Ultra-Lib radical. Apparently, the intellectual paucity of the Democratic Party made it impossible to come up with legitimate alternatives to the good ole free-market capitalism espoused nominally by the Right; so the job fell to the motivated, Lib-Kook Fringe to get elected. I give the Obama Regime approximately 9 more months before moderate Dems start to re-assert control over the current Loons.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Get settled into it, BCS; your peers spent the last eight years trying to nullify TWO Presidential elections won by a greater margin. [I make one little error …]
HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago

How come the Education Czar has sent out “appropriate” questions for teachers to ask after the talk? It is just a publicity stunt to get approval numbers up; not really needed..
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

It’s more private sector interventionism so the arrogant and self-important Libs can demonstrate their indispensability to their Utopia. Think Honduras and the ousted Marxist.
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

puppy: your peers spent the last eight years trying to nullify TWO Presidential elections won by a greater margin.

what ??????
Kylop said, 2 months ago

Mr Anderson….Nailed it!
motivemagus said, 2 months ago

NFP: Obama won by a greater margin than Bush’s 2004 election. And of course he won, which automatically puts him above Bush in 2000.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Ha! I know better than to take you at your word, Motive! I’ll concede 2000, though. I forgot about that; that’s when Al Gore tried to steal the election… Another Lib-Specialty.
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

motive, thanks for responding to puppy’s latest no-facts-included post
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Bush won twice = 8 years of Lib belly-aching.
Obama won once = 8 months of Lib belly-aching, so far
Let’s just face it , you Libs like to b1tch.
pbarnrob said, 2 months ago

The news organizations pooled their dimes and financed a study, (published much too late) that showed that Gore actually won in Florida. The screaming R. activists stopped the recounts several times, and finally, the SCOTUS made the Selection, but were careful not to set precedent.

As one posting at the time said (paraphrased; attributed to an ambassador from a little African country), “If in my country, we had such an election, decided by the court appointed by the daddy of one of the candidates, who had been head of the secret police, the world would be all over us!”
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Several recounts by local newspapers declared Bush the winner in Florida (in Dade Cty.?, etc.) This has been well established.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

First Panel: The kids say, “What a loser!”
Second Panel: The kids say, “Ooooh, what’s gonna happen to the goat?”
Morale: Consider your audience. Save your arrogant “advice” for the man in the mirror…
motivemagus said, 2 months ago

Look up “projection,” NFP. And you accuse *us* of b!tching?
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

See, you’re still b!tching!
HUMPHRIES said, 2 months ago

Strippy away, puppy in. Postings same as ever.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

HUrMaPHRodItES in…and strangely enough, arrogance and condescension, too.
parkersinthehouse said, 2 months ago

I FOUND IT!! dedicated to u-no-hoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJanypP7iqA

turn your volume up!!
HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago

Reading a story and preaching are two different agendas.
BOB HASTY said, 2 months ago

President Obama is doing what presidents have done before. No one complained when George H.W. Bush and Reagan promoted their tax cuts agenda in their address to children.

NoFearPup is a racist. His comments seemly demonstrate how ignorance, fired by racism, can turn the discussion into meaningless dribble.

It just proves that the south still thinks it did not lose the war!! This isn’t the first time that ignorance and racism drove local school districts into un-American acts of violence and ineptitude. GROW UP!!!
ezdeb said, 2 months ago

NoFear, how do you read the Texas school textbook changes? Do you agree with the historical revisions being undertaken by right wing interests?

Pup sez: “After all, this is America - it’s not government’s place to “build character”(Hello, ever heard of Family, Church?).” Do you agree with the changes that will re-calibrate the values and character that our schoolchildren read all over the country?

Please respond and tell me if you agree with the changes in our childrens’ school curriculum. If you do, please explain how that is different than “government” being involved in indoctrinating kids? If the difference is only that one pushes your agenda and one doesn’t, bingo.
HUMPHRIES said, 2 months ago

shakey puppy … seems I’ve made a direct hit, thanks for validating my post ;o)
Justice22 said, 2 months ago

Getting to the bottom of it all, politics are at the bottom. They stink. Until people agree on policy, overlooking the prejudice of politics, we will remain a second class nation. Where are we today?; Someplace just above the second world countries. As a friend in Europe said after the 2,000 election, “What is this, the son of a former president loses the election by over half a million votes, but is declared the winner? It sounds like a banana republic to me.” I agreed but that is in the past. We paid greatly for it.
ezdeb said, 2 months ago

Pup, really. HUrMaPHRodItES? It’s time to leave middle school, my fellow citizen. Join the adults!
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

This has primordially turned into an ad hominen attack against me- an innocent, non-racist. Some of my points must have hit home…
ezdeb said, 2 months ago

Ah, a rightie plays the victim card! NoFear can dish it out, but any rebuttal is an attack against him!! An innocent non racist who just kind of puts racist stuff up there over and over!! Sniff, whine!

NoFear, if you are gonna say stuff like this:

“Bush won twice = 8 years of Lib belly-aching.
Obama won once = 8 months of Lib belly-aching, so far
Let’s just face it , you Libs like to b1tch.”, you get what you get. Obama won once = 8 months of Cheney, Beck, Limbaugh, Boehner, McCain, Palin, Steele, Perry, Jindal, Gingrich, Hannity, etc etc etc belly-aching. Forget them??

I say again. No one here cares about you personally. If you are gonna say stuff like “HUrMaPHRodItES”, then Just. Shut. Up about you not liking stuff getting all personal on you.
ezdeb said, 2 months ago

Also, NoFear, I’m waiting for your response about Texas’ indoctrination attempts. When you find a kleenex and blow your nose, could you respond? Thanks.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Not aware of “texas” indoctrination…is this about Intelligent Design? Otherwise, I could care less about public education; it’s been ruined a long-time ago. You get what you deserve.
As for Humphries: He’s obnoxious, as anyone with an un-biased perspective could tell…But, he’s “obnoxious” in a good way …as he is an equal-opportunity insulter (something like that). So, I occasionally insult him back. If he stops insulting me; I’ll stop insulting him.
pbarnrob said, 2 months ago

Don’t forget, Shrub was holding My Pet Goat upside-down in the video from the classroom, with that blank stare as he wondered when they were going to tell him he could get out of there…
ezdeb said, 2 months ago

NoFear: regarding children and political indoctrination that no one cares about because it’s not the president suggesting it.”

“MESSING WITH TEXAS’ TEXTBOOKS…. When we last checked in with the Texas Board of Education, conservatives were working on downplaying the contributions of civil rights leaders in social studies curricula. In particular, an evangelical minister tapped as an “expert” for state officials, questioned whether former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall should be presented to Texas students as an important historical figure.

Officials did, however, want to add instruction on the “motivational role the Bible and the Christian faith played in the settling of the original colonies.”

By way of Lee Fang, it seems the board is still hard at work, and moving in the wrong direction.

Texas high school students would learn about such significant individuals and milestones of conservative politics as Newt Gingrich and the rise of the Moral Majority – but nothing about liberals – under the first draft of new standards for public school history textbooks. […]

The first draft for proposed standards in United States History Studies Since Reconstruction says students should be expected “to identify significant conservative advocacy organizations and individuals, such as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly and the Moral Majority.”

A Democratic state lawmaker said, as it stands, Texas students would get “one-sided, right wing ideology.” He added, “We ought to be focusing on historical significance and historical figures. It’s important that whatever course they take, that it portray a complete view of our history and not a jaded view to suit one’s partisan agenda or one’s partisan philosophy.”

Please note that as Texas textbooks go, so goes the nation’s schools, since it’s much easier and cheaper for all school districts to buy the same basic texts. Is this indoctrination? Or not, by way of you agreeing with conservative historical revision?

My source is WashingtonMonthly/Steve Benen, but you can easily see the debate in Texas via google.
tpenna said, 2 months ago

Sorry, I’d just like to get back to NoFearPup’s comment about the last two Republican victories being wider margins than Obama’s recent 7.2% popular margin (192 electoral).

I want to know how you get there when in 2004, Bush won the popular by 2.4% and the electoral by 35. And does anyone need to be reminded that he lost the popular in 2000 by 0.5% and (quite controversially) won the electoral by five?
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

tpenna, good to bring it back up again.

NFP, it’s a virtue to acknowledge when one gets one’s facts wrong …. are you big enough to retract your earlier (mis)statement? I think you are … do you?
cdward said, 2 months ago

Re the texas indoctrination. Mel and Norma Gabler were for decades the de facto “deciders” of what history books would be used in the country. The reason? They put together an tireless and dogged organization that “reviewed” textbooks, deciding what was acceptable (ie., agreed with their values) and what was not. They then campaigned to get rid of anything in books they didn’t like, and made so much noise that the state school board generally bowed to their desires. They became ever more powerful until essentially every text book – especially history – had to pass muster with the Gablers or it was not purchased in Texas.
The reason that affects the rest of us is because the textbook publishers could not go making separate books for each state – too expensive. Texas being one of the biggest markets, as well as one of the most insistent about what it wanted, got its way, and the rest of us had to deal with it.
They were horrible textbooks, by the way, with more wrong in them than right. But they kept the “values” people happy, and that meant they sold. Read Jim Lowen’s “Lies My Teacher Told Me.”
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Yeah, I got one wrong…Obama doesn’t have much of a mandate, though; and, as light gets shed on the Lib-agenda - they keep losing ground.

Faith was THE integral factor in colonial life; it was the basis for social and political structure and institutes of authority. Look up William Ellery Channing.

I’ve heard Texas sucks.
cdward said, 2 months ago

Are you suggesting a theocracy? And whose religion would reign?
M Henri Day said, 2 months ago

Those who doubt that Mr Anderson’s cartoon does in fact describe important traits in the political life of the United States, should read the responses to it on this forum….

Henri
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

I’m suggesting an accurate portrayal of American History would not deny the primacy of Faith in the American colonials’ lives. Colonial Americans were quite confident in their religious beliefs, and weren’t stricken with the results of agnostic and relativistic paralysis stemming from present-day political correctness.
DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

Agnosis and relativism stems from intelligence and education; political correctness has nothing to do with it. Further, it does not paralyse; it is a call to action to extend personal and social freedoms.
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

C.S.Lewis: “…men without chests.”
tizzo said, 2 months ago

pbarnrob, you’re mistaken about the recounts. You’re correct that several news organizations conducted their own recounts after the fact, and they also applied a variety of standards to see what the outcome would have been in each of several scenarios. But all found that Bush won under all scenarios. Even that under which Gore’s first four counties were recounted – in which undervotes appearing to go to Gore were counted for Gore and those appearing to go to Bush were excluded.
tizzo said, 2 months ago

In response to Mr. Anderson’s cartoon – at the time that the conservatives registered a “problem”, Mr. Obama’s address, which was to be to all school children, not to just a classroom he was visiting for a photo-op – was to be about how the children could help the president realize his agenda.

As of right now, we STILL don’t know what he’s going to say in that address.

As for Marxism, you have to be an idiot to continue to deny that Obama has at least SOME Marxist tendencies. The manner in which GM’s bankruptcy was handled, in which senior debtholders were wiped out and their share of the companies’ assets given to the unions, is classic Marxism, and is probably the primary reason why corporate lending has yet to recover..
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

tizzo, as I recall, you are correct that recounts following the Nov. 2000 election found Bush to have won the majority of votes cast, though the recounts narrowed his lead over Gore.

For those who followed the election closely, however, some disturbing state actions were never investigated. Gov. Jeb Bush paid a private firm to develop a list of people convicted of felonies who should not be allowed to vote. His office specifically asked the firm to “cast a wide net.” What resulted was a list of names of registered voters that included names “similar” to the convicted felons, including names with different dates of birth, different middle initials and even differing spelling of last names. No attempt was made to correctly identify the felon from the legitimate names on the list. In other words, for a single felon, there were multiple names listed, including legitimate registered voters who were then turned away at the polls and prevented from voting.

Coincidentally (if you believe in fairy tales), these names fall largely in precincts with a Democratic majority. It is estimated that 20,000 people were improperly disenfranchised by Jeb Bush’s unusual order to county registrars. Gov. Bush rescinded his order the day after Pres. Bush was inaugurated.

It will never be known what might have occurred in Florida if those 20,000 registered voters had been allowed to vote, as they should have been.
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

tizzo,You have several inaccurate statements in your post:

1) in fact there was only one question originally that asked students to think of ways they could support the President’s goal (which was about education, not any other policies).

That one question was removed. The other questions remained the same and were all very clearly designed to get the students to think about the value of education, to discuss how they could achieve their own goals. Those questions have been available on-line for days. There is nothing controversial about any of it and none of it has to do with any policy agenda.

2) Your characterization of Bush 41 and Reagan’s speech to children is inaccurate. Both Reagan’s visit with children and Bush 41’s visit to schools were broadcast nationwide, as will be Obama’s. And I’m sure you know by now, Reagan disicussed policy issues, not just education.
DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

Puppy: I’ve read it. Have you a point to make?
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Maybe…

Materialism and Rationalism leads to the primacy of glandular-motivation in human endeavors; a direct contrast to the scientific pursuit of higher knowledge;accepting only the “knowable” as “truth”, stemming from the fact that the human organism is now reduced to the sum of its apparent parts, and cognition itself is now suspect. Eventually one has to conclude, “I think therefore I am” and move on to accepting what works and “bears good fruit” and subject to inquiry, as reality; or accept relativism in morality and ethics as pre-eminent, but also unworkable as a cultural foundation.
DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

So?
tpenna said, 2 months ago

Hey, NoFearPup. You say Obama doesn’t have a mandate. I don’t get it, though. His popular margin was just shy of Reagan’s in 1980 (9.7%), and Reagan’s overall vote tally was nowhere near as high (in either ‘80 or ‘84). Are you saying Reagan didn’t have a mandate in 1980? Such an argument would be strangely void of reason. To me, it sounds a lot more like abject partisanship. You simply don’t like Barack Obama, so he couldn’t possibly have gotten a mandate, right?