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   oldlegodad said, 2 months ago

   Thanks to the left leaning media.

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   foxglove16 said, 2 months ago

   That’s right, it all has to do with the dreaded left leaning media, and nothing to do with the ridiculousness of propping up warlords and corrupt, inept, not really in control governments. Occupation never works, especially when the country is so absolutely alien to us that we don’t even know what the he// they are thinking.

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   pbarnrob said, 2 months ago

   Someday the classified reports from the ’80s will be available, about how we (the US CIA and our ‘off-the-shelf enterprises’) created the Mujahadeen (sp?) by emptying MidEast jails, to play against the Russians.

   But then, I also like “That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.” –Aldous Huxley

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   BOB HASTY said, 2 months ago

   Bush-Cheney called off the search for bin Laden so he could have his own private, illegal war in Iraq. Bring the troops home, and leave all the public contractors. Maybe the Heroin traffickers will pay the $189 Million per year.

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   HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago

   BinLaden is dead

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   GNWachs said, 2 months ago

   So with all then logic expressed above why is Obama doubling down in Afghanistan? It is now his war.

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   ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

   “Welp there you go again…”

   Let’s see now, Olde blames the lack of public support for the war on a “Left leaning media” and within several posts (including Howgozit’s ridiculous insistence about Bin Laden’s existence) the obviously right ramrod GNWachs, gives us a “hey, it’s his problem now, what do I care” sort of response.

   So which way is it there boyos? Is it that GNWachs is a puppet of the “Left Leaning” media? Or is it that you don’t have the moral fiber to stand up and support something that the “not MY president” is doing?

   “Left leaning media”: The media hasn’t said “boo” about the mid east since the Iranian elections. We have no real idea what’s going on in Afghanistan and back in the day the right would have cheered that because it was part of the Bush administration’s plan, to reduce news coverage.

   The only thing more pathetic than you guys is me, thinking that I’ll get through that thick Neanderthal fore head of your’n.

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   GNWachs said, 2 months ago

   @RV

   Your logic consistently confuses me. Both the left and the media strongly opposed Bush and Iraq. The public was turned off by the war. As it is slowly ending the media abandoned coverage so as not to allow Bush to claim victory.

   The general public doesn’t understand differences between Iraq and Afghanistan. Our going into Vietnam, staying in Iraq, and doubling down in Afghanistan were all an error in judgment. I don’t know why Obama did it, I oppose it.

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   ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

   SAY WHAT?

   The media opposed Bush in Iraq?

   Which media? The GE controlled media that sells so much to the military? The NYT that didn’t do the due diligence enough to see that Chilabi was the source of most of the ficticious data?

   Please GNW! PLEASE!

   Of course you’re confused, because you don’t know anything to start out with.

   The General Public WHAT? Says who? Says Fox News? We know two things. Afghanistan was where the Bin Laden was hiding and they attacked the Twin Towers! And we KNOW that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

   Staying in Iraq is an error in judgement? What was/is the alternative?

   We never should have gone in in the first place. We never should have propped up Saddam in the first place. We never should have let that stoopid limey Lloyd George anywhere near the maps at the end of WWI!

   Those were errors in judgement! Staying in Iraq is a freaking requirement! McCain was right. You are wrong. Again.

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    believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

    The media most definitely did not oppose the Bush administration going into Iraq. That rewrite of history flies in the face of known facts, not the least of which was the NYT trumpeting the administration’s claims later proved to be false.

    Many media have now acknowledged that, as a whole, it failed to investigate or question claim’s from the government, in essence abdicating its role as a “watchdog.”

    “the media abandoned coverage so as not to allow Bush to claim victory.”

    another falsehood … Bush claimed victory, remember? The media didn’t abandon coverage either … the war went on and on and on with little discernible change. We’re still there …. it’s time to leave.

    How arrogant to claim the public can’t discern the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. The war in Iraq was sold as a pre-emptive war, and the nebulous connection once claimed to 9/11 has now proved false.
    The push to get bin Laden and al Qaida was pushed aside. If there is a war on terrorists, Afghanistan is still the locale where they base and train.

    I think the public understands plenty.

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    M Henri Day said, 2 months ago

    «Thanks to the left leaning media.» In the United States ?!! One can’t help wondering in which country signature «oldlegodad» lives (others might rather ask what he’s smoking)….

    Henri