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Mike Luckovich

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  1. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @masterskrain

    I more or less most of the time with some pretty big qualifications support Obama, and I’m pretty upset about this program.

  2. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @onguard

    The CNS news page contained an ad asking “Can you detect fact from liberal media B.S.?,” so I didn’t bother to read it. The Politico story focused on the Obama Campaign’s social media efforts and their ability to use data that’s already available.

  3. Enoki

    Enoki said, over 1 year ago

    It’s NSA CYA not the other bits…

  4. D PB

    D PB said, over 1 year ago

    The totalitarian state watches everyone, but keeps its own plans secret. Privacy is seen as dangerous because it enhances resistance. Constantly spying and then confronting people with what are often petty transgressions is a way of maintaining social control and unnerving and disempowering opposition….

    Thanks to Janna Malamud Smith

    I tire of responding to those. Let me offer one response that applies to all of them: I don’t trust my government, I don’t trust the people who work for my government, and I believe that the evidence suggests that it’s irrational to offer such trust.

    Let me close by repeating my four points from yesterday that guide my evaluation of such matters, this time without links:

    1. The government lies to you about the extent of its surveillance of you.

    2. The government says it needs secrecy, but lies about its secrets.

    3. The government says it needs expanded powers to fight terrorism, but lies: in fact it uses expanded “anti-terrorism” powers to advance a variety of domestic agendas.

    4. Terrorism is whatever the government says it is.


    Faced With The Security State, Groklaw Opts Out

    Numerous links in the article and linked articles, if you think you have nothing to fear from this type of oversight, you are naive. Still believe in Santa Claus too?

    This was a big deal when Bush was in office, it’s an even larger deal under Obama. Get over it, your champion is not.

  5. D PB
  6. Enoki

    Enoki said, over 1 year ago

    @Omnius

    So, Obama has put a stop to it hum? I think not. If anything Obama doubled down on the spying, renewed the Patriot Act, and even expaned it.

  7. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @singlespeed

    “How selectively myopic you are. So it was good when Dick and Bush took away your rights under the canard of fightin’ the turrurists over thar but now those same programs extended by Congress are somehow evil?”
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    ss, for the Republicans/Fox “news” viewers, there is but one single issue and that is hatred for Obama.
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    If Obama were replaced tomorrow by a Republican, say, Newt Gingrich or Rand Paul or even Dick Cheney, ALL of their privacy concerns would go away. ALL of them.
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    Pick an issue: health care, jobs, the economy, Egypt, anywhere in the Middle East. They have NO alternatives and they have no intention of trying to make things better.
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    Their only issue is hatred for Obama.

  8. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @onguard

    You realize she’s referring to “Organizing for America” and people have to opt-in to be in the “database”? No, of course not.

    Obama’s team was able to use the data they collected far more effectively than Romney’s people.

  9. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @masterskrain

    What people Don’t know is that this is independent of direct white house control!
    The other thing they forget is that this whole thing Was Started by Dubya!
    #rd. there would Not have been much fuss because This IS Partisan, fox has lots of viewers and they inflate and lie and anything they can to hate Obama.
    I don’t agree with a lot he has done, but with Romney, who would have done all the bad stuff and much more, we would really have Lots more problems.

  10. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @lonecat

    Obama didn’t start it. He has made some bad mistakes tho. 1. renewing the patriot act.
    2. pardoning Bush and Cheney from war-crimes.
    3 that NNDA thing. But the GOP would have done that one also.

  11. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @PAJ

    In his 1st term Obama did manage to do something like 129 of his promises.

  12. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @braindead08

    Very well said! I wish you changed your Nom de plume, you are Anything But brain dead!

  13. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    It all goes back at least as far as the OSS and real threats in WW II, then the made-up threats to go with the war on Islam, er excuse me, “terrorism”, took the stops off.

  14. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    It all goes back at least as far as the OSS and real threats in WW II, then the made-up threats to go with the war on Islam, er excuse me, “terrorism”, took the stops off.

  15. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @dtroutma

    Espionage addicts took advantage of the real threats of WWII in order to indulge their own needs. The Cold War allowed them to continue and expand their programs. Now, they have latched on to “terrorism” as the crisis that excuses their need to snoop.

    The threats about Nazis & Commies infiltrating our society proved to be overblown. Today’s spies are doing the same thing with terrorism. There is obviously a real threat, but I don’t trust the intelligence people to be honest about how great the threats are & whether all of the spying actually makes us safer.

    Obama has a propensity for taking the opinion of ‘experts’ as truth. He allowed himself to expand & extend operations in Afghanistan because that’s what the Pentagon wanted. I suspect he is equally misled by the folks in Langley & Foggy Bottom.

    Anyone who thinks McCain, Romney or Hillary would not have been just as ready to follow the same course is kidding themselves. They all subscribe to the same Washington mindset: listen to the ‘experts’.

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