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Mike Lester

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  1. Ardvarck

    Ardvarck GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Everything that tea party doesn’t understand is now called Obamacare. Get real.

  2. nusbickel

    nusbickel said, over 2 years ago

    @Ardvarck

    Anyone defending Obamacare doesn’t understand Obamacare. 2014 rates of Affordable Care Act are going to make you sh*t your ardvarck plastic pants.

  3. d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release

    d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release said, over 2 years ago

    @nusbickel

    Uhh….That has to do with your insurance company, not the Affordable Care Act. You insurance rates have been going up for years BEFORE the law was even written.

  4. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, over 2 years ago

    Errrmmmm … more like “Thank you, Papa John.” (I’d pay $0.15 more per pizza if I knew it would cover the workers’ healthcare, but that would require me to eat a Papa John’s pizza.)

  5. nusbickel

    nusbickel said, over 2 years ago

    @d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release

    Uhh… insurance company books are wide open and dictated by 80/20 federal gov’t MLR. Time to own this mess that your party created, like a
    good eunuch.

  6. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, over 2 years ago

    Papa John and I share one thing and one thing only in common: we both believe businesses shouldn’t pay for employees’ healthcare.


    I, however, believe in an efficient single-payer system that would relieve employers of ANY health care burden. (Who wants someone who can’t make a good pizza in the healthcare business anyway?)


    Papa John believes in forcing minimum wage workers to spend $10,000 a year in private healthcare.

  7. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, over 2 years ago

    Everyone, this is exactly the case. A lot of employers are going to (and already are, in anticipation of the PPACA’s rules) cut staff to work 29 hours per week so they can avoid the predatory law’s burdensome requirements. What most people don’t realize is that franchisees don’t make a ton of money.

    I know the guy who owns all the subways in town, something like 8 or 10 of them. After all the overhead and fees, he clears maybe $150k a year. For owning 8 businesses. And he has more than 50 employees total. So you add in the penalty for not providing health care of those employees, and you’re looking at $100k in fines, minimum. He has 80 employees. That means he will lose $10k a year as a business owner. How long do you honestly think he can stay in business if he’s running a net loss every year?

    So he’s going to do the only thing he can to ensure his business stays afloat: cut the hours to his staff so he doesn’t have to pay the penalty. It’s that, or shed jobs/sell stores. This is the unintended consequence of the PPACA. This is the “I told you so,” moment for so many conservatives who said this law was a bad idea. Because this is just the beginning.

  8. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, over 2 years ago

    ^I have some passages too. this is from david (the one who slew goliath and later became king david).


    2 Samuel 1:26 – I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.


    1 Samuel 20:41 – [And] as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of [a place] toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded

    1 Samuel 18:1 – And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.

    beautiful, isn’t it?

  9. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, over 2 years ago

    @Chillbilly

    “I, however, believe in an efficient single-payer system that would relieve employers of ANY health care burden. (Who wants someone who can’t make a good pizza in the healthcare business anyway?)”

    It won’t relieve them of the burden, it will just shift it in the form of predatory tax levels. Someone’s gotta pay for it some how, and health care is no exception. What makes it worse is you have some unelected bureaucrat in Washington dictating when will be allowed and not allowed given your current situation.

    Hope you don’t want to have breast cancer caught before it’s terminal, because they only allow mammograms starting after most women are diagnosed with it. Hope you don’t want that hip replacement at 70 years old, because you’re “too old,” and the return on investment isn’t there. Hope you don’t want that experimental drug treatment to fight your cancer, because it’s experimental.

    All of these are just a few things that go on in countries with socialized medicine. There are some things the PPACA got right, but some that it dicked the dog hard. And having the IPAB and other bureaucratic committees deciding our future is — to put it mildly — dangerous.

  10. d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release

    d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release said, over 2 years ago

    @nusbickel

    “Uhh… insurance company books are wide open and dictated by 80/20 federal gov’t MLR. Time to own this mess that your party created, like a good eunuch.”


    Re-read my post, and slowly this time since you have a comprehension problem. I said that your health insurance rates have been going up BEFORE the law was written year after year. Why are you blaming the Care Act instead of the people who are raping you raw, like the insurance companies?

  11. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, over 2 years ago

    @Wraithkin

    With the exception of the US, every developed nation and even some undeveloped nations (e.g. Nicaragua where my wife got immediate bureaucracy-free easy access to medical treatment this year for no charge in a remote rural area) provides imperfect, but efficient and relatively easy to manage medical care in exchange for a regressive VAT.


    I have two MDs in my family and they both loathe the PRIVATE bureaucracy which drowns them in paperwork and costs them a small fortune every year—much of which is passed on to patients who often can’t/won’t pay. I guarantee you that if paying a VAT stood between them and their plasma TV, they’d pay it.


    People like that douchebag John Schnatter fought and continue to fight against a single payer system because they aren’t willing to sacrifice a gold-plated toilet seat in one of their mansions in exchange for a VAT based system which EVERYONE must pay into whenever they buy a Chevrolet, a candy bar, a beer or a really horrid pizza.


    Don’t mistake the fact that the US has the Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins with the fact that it also has Aetna and Blue Cross and a gazillion private companies that scrape the cream off Medicare. Our system sucks. Doctors (except plastic surgeons and dermatoligists who serve the 1%) HATE it. It makes them sloppy. It makes them perform unnecessary tests and it drowns them in the same kind of sloppy paperwork the banks who gave us the mortgage crisis provided.


    Don’t lecture us about taxes and bureaucracy. The US healthcare system is a government within itself: bloated, pointless, corrupt and “taxed” at rate multiple times higher than anywhere else in the world.

  12. trm

    trm said, over 2 years ago

    Yep, I’m sure if you asked nicely, that Obama presstitute would show you his official Monica Lewinsky Memorial Kneepads.

  13. trm

    trm said, over 2 years ago

    Actually, after Obozo the Anointed (PBUH) works his jobs “miracle”, there’s LESS fish and LESS bread.

  14. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, over 2 years ago

    @Chillbilly

    And have you ever asked those same MD’s what kind of paperwork juggling they have to do to get reimbursed by government subsidies? I have spoken to doctors repeatedly and how they complain that while private insurance makes them file a ton of paperwork to get things approved, the Medicare/Medicaid systems not only do that, but routinely reject claims twice as matter of habit before finally accepting it, and then reimbursing the doctors at sub-expense levels. Doctors lose money when they treat medicare/medicaid patients.

    So don’t gripe about the whole 1% thing. I’m not saying our system is perfect, but I would take my private insurance over publicly-managed care any day. Part of it also is that people of this country do not like being taxed at a high rate. Look at how much people yell and scream about flat taxes. People say it hurts the little people and is regressive. Just imagine if those same little people had to pay 50% tax to get their healthcare paid for.

    And that’s the other facet of this equation. I cannot stand the idea of subsidizing laziness. With our current welfare system being as abused and pervasive as it is (really, you can buy red bull with food stamps?!?), who do you honestly think is going to be hurt the most by adding a VAT to pay for a single-payer system. Given the entitlement mentality in this country, it isn’t going to be the poor (because they “deserve” to get the care without paying taxes). It certainly won’t be the rich (because what do they care? They’re rich!). It will be the middle class whose purchasing power will be diminished and quality of life will retract.

    When you have half this country not pulling on the rope at all, for one reason or another, a higher tax rate is going to only hurt those in the middle. I wouldn’t be so against a single-payer system if three things could be considered certainties:
    1) That everyone will have some form of tax liability at the end of the year. If you don’t have skin in the game, what’s your incentive to pull on the rope? I won’t feel taken advantage of by people who refuse to work, and milk the system for all they can.
    2) That the single-payer system will not be managed by bureaucrats dictating from on high who gets what treatment, but rather a doctor will be the one who gets final say in what treatment options are available.
    3) Doctors should be reimbursed at market rates, with them not losing money treating patients. Who would want to be a doctor if they are losing money treating their patients? With as much expense goes into their education (and rightfully so), why are we short-changing the people who are charged with our care? If anything they should be reimbursed at above-market rates to encourage medical practice as a vocation.

    But given our current bureaucracy, this will never happen. And that’s why I will continue to support a private-based system. With our current social structure, anyone who thinks single-payer won’t hurt the middle class is deluding themselves

  15. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, over 2 years ago

    My apologies. I do.

    “How is it that America can’t figure this out when every other industrialized and pre-industrialized country in the world can make this work?”

    Economies of scale, tax burden, and illusion. I’ll break it up.

    When you have Britain with a population 1/5th ours, while the per-person cost of care may be about the same, the level of bureaucratic involvement spikes to support a larger program. It’s not just that simple, but that’s what I’m getting at. We’re also looking at it in a bubble. There are more factors that play into our situation when compared to other countries’. We have a massive welfare state, we have an illegal immigrant population that draws on the system, we have people abuse the system, et al.

    The other thing is tax rates for individuals is much higher in countries that have public health care. As I mentioned in my last post (at length), Americans won’t support that kind of tax level… especially people like me who will be hit hardest by it. Most countries have massive tax burdens in place on everyone to support the nanny states they are providing. Ask any American and just about everyone will not be willing to pay half their paycheck so everyone can have “free” healthcare. Our culture doesn’t support it.

    And lastly, it’s an illusion. In America, the primary complaint is that health care is too expensive. I won’t argue that point… it is getting kind of ridiculous. But when I have shoulder pain, I can call my orthopedic specialist that did my shoulder surgeries and I’ll have an appointment in about a week, maybe two depending on his schedule, and I can be under the knife in likely a week or so after that.

    Public healthcare systems won’t be that expedient, and specialists are more rare. We also have very little rationing going on in the private insurance area, in public you do. When I think of public health care, I remember reading stories about how 70-year-old people need hip replacements, but because they are deemed too old, they don’t get a new hip. They dehumanize the situation and break it down into a math problem. They ration care.

    You also have an issue of pending liabilities. Look at all the austerity measures that are being taken in Europe right now. That’s a prime example of where we are headed; when government handouts are running out of control, the debt level becomes unsustainable and the whole system collapses. Eventually, you have more takers than givers, and the system cannot bear any more weight.

    I will never argue that our system is perfect. But single-payer is not the way to go. “Free” healthcare for all is not appropriate, for it takes responsibility for their care away from the individual and hands it to some bureaucrat. The intent behind the PPACA was good, but the execution sucked big time. People in our government need to identify the root problem of why costs are going up, not try to treat the symptoms and then lay more people on top of an already burdened system. I don’t pretend to have all the answers. But what I do know is the PPACA is wrong for America.

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